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Posted by pogo56 on 08-17-2007 03:26 PM:

wild pigs

we have a hand full of wild pigs running arround our little town...the dnr want them out....i think it would be neet to harvst one with out haveing to pay an arm and leg....is there a way you can bait them pigs in??? i have pigs at home but them wild ones do not seem to bother them....if wild boars eat under a apple tree do they rutt it all up or just matt the grass down....do they prefer swamp???? these are a new thing arround here but i might as well take avantage of it and have some fun.....any help would be great....

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Posted by kenkade on 08-18-2007 05:14 AM:

Wild Hogs

Try this site ( found by google.com "wild Hog Trap")

http://www.google.com/search?q=wild...amp;rlz=1I7RNWN

Posted by Bama Bill on 08-18-2007 02:23 PM:

A little hog info ...

Wild hogs can pretty much get along just about any where! They are omnivours, meaning they will eat anything that doesn't eat them first. I hunt them with dogs an live catch them, tie an cuff.
But for what your wanting to do your gonna need to scout hard for them hogs, they can an will make deer look retarded. There nose is better there ears better eyes are a weak spot. They don't just run swampy area's but do prefer to remain close to water an thick, thick, nasty places, or thick hedge rows. A good feed is soured corn with vanilla extract poured on it ... if ya find a water hole mud waller type spot the hogs are using dump the corn in it as being under water will keep the deer an tree rats from eating it first. Water an sour want bother a hog none, they out swim Labs. LMAO Also if ya can find a spot a little burnt motor oil goes a long way, hogs love to waller in it as it keeps the insects off them an kills the ones on them. But watch out for the EPA ! LOL Hope this helps some .... here's a picture of a pair of my cur dogs working about a 150 pound boar, older picture not recent but gives ya an idea of what they like to hide in?

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Posted by pogo56 on 08-20-2007 03:44 PM:

well if theres any arround still i think i know where there runnen arround....but they will pop out once and a while....there is a swampy area about 3/4 of a mile between a main highway and a main road.... they are seen just off of the main road....then i think they head back into that swamp....it not very wide but its long...a ladie took a picture of one in her yard...it you could see the tusk went up past his nose...well ill have to see if i can bait them in...do hogs use the same path like deer??? do they rutt stuff up like farm pigs...do they bed down like deer or lay down on there side?? like farm pigs???? i do aprechate the help...

Posted by bama blacks on 08-21-2007 01:52 AM:

50 lgs of corn, 10 pounds of sugar, a 12 pack of beer, and cover with water for about a week in a trash can will make good hog bait if you are wanting to bait them in.

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Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 08-23-2007 01:54 PM:

It is more important where you put your bait than it is what you use for bait. Those pigs are tame if they escaped from a pen. They will probably be seen in different areas, but there is someplace they are spending 85% of their time.

If you find this spot and put out a bait you should have no trouble killing one. Corn works well. Corn soaked in deep fry oil from your local restaurant works even better.
Kyle

Posted by BigBadGablues on 08-27-2007 11:35 PM:

guys i really wana harvest a pig with my bow and was wondering if anyone was willing to help out?????
thanks
Brandon

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Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 08-28-2007 04:32 AM:

Bows and pigs don't mix well.
Kyle

Posted by Pops on 08-28-2007 06:16 AM:

better have a good treestand

Posted by BIGCASTLEDAWGS on 08-28-2007 12:50 PM:

Kyle

quote:
Originally posted by Kyle W. Graf
Bows and pigs don't mix well.
Kyle

Got me curious... Because they are hard to kill with one? I know they can be MEAN as heck... where we Used to coonhunt in the 70s, when MA still had Land.... there was a herd of feral pigs... they were the meanest suckers in the world. We had to trail ride the horses thru there and any time a ride was going to go that way I would be close to tears! The horses were scared of the pigs...I was SO afraid I'd get dumped there and then the pigs would eat me...LOL... Not a big fan of pigs...unless butchered cooked and on my plate.
SO, I was wondering if your statemnet was because it may be hard to Kill one with bow in one shot... and a mean pig with an arrow in it could be even worse to Get Away from?

Thanks, Happy Hunting! Heather

pogo56, GOOD LUCK! Hope you get a good one and fill the freezer! Sure does make for good eatting!

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Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 08-28-2007 01:56 PM:

The vitals are small. Allot of pigs go to waste because of bows.
Kyle

Posted by BigBadGablues on 08-28-2007 04:19 PM:

Look im no rookie hunter i know what im capable of. I know the vitals are small and the skin is thick. I also know my hand is steady and my broadheads are BIG lol.... i have seen em shot after dogs have bayed em up (i know that means whom ever owns the dogs has to have a good bit of confidence in my shooting as well) and i have also seen em stuck spot and stalk. either way i am very confident in my abilities and would love to give it a go. so anyone out there have any pigs around the south with or without dogs let me know...
Thanks
Brandon

Posted by nkisamo1 on 08-29-2007 03:10 PM:

Beer

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Originally posted by bama blacks
50 lgs of corn, 10 pounds of sugar, a 12 pack of beer, and cover with water for about a week in a trash can will make good hog bait if you are wanting to bait them in.

I don't waste no beer on a hog. There should be a law against that. Corn will fermint with out beer. Use a pack of yeast instead if you want to spped the process up.

Posted by Bama Bill on 08-29-2007 04:39 PM:

Well Mr. Graf ...

Kyle W. Graf ... you've made a couple of posts about hog hunting an seem to think you got it all sorted out? Park Falls, Wisconsin?
So how are the "wild" or "feral" hog herds doing up in them parts? Or do yall got them big ole mean REAL Euroasian/ Russian boars? Look here is the FACTS .. hogs is tough but they ain't encased in teflon or kevlar or titanium .. it's flesh an blood an bone and any good sharp sportsman can kill them.
They're killed regular as clock work down here with a simple little ole .22 mag ... or bow, or shot gun, or smoke pole or my favorite my trusty ole .30/.30 Winchester lever action.
Hogs don't spend 85% of there time any where unless there in a pen or geographicaly shut it, hog move an feed an spend I would say about 12 plus hours a day doing it .. we catch about a 100 plus year so I know a little about em an they are live caught with a little ole 40 pound bulldog ... they ain't Sherman tanks or M1A Abrams there hogs .. simple as that. Now them Wisconsin hogs might be a whole nother kinda "Hogzilla" type evil beast.
But down south in what is considered one the largest hog populations in the world we just don't see them as such invincable creatures. If they fed some where for 85% of the day or bedded there there wouldn't be any way to hide that place or that fact ... hogs roam an roam a lot.
And facts are it's mighty d@mn important where you put out your bait an how rank it is, not cause hogs like "stinky" stuff but because deer like corn. And if your hog hunting you ain't deer hunting. Soured corn or wet feed will not be appealing to deer but to hogs well that is a whole nother thang. Put sweet corn right in a mud puddle the deer will never touch it but hogs ain't bothered by rooting in water.
Now I kindly await your reply an will be keen to have your input on the matter as you really seem to be an authority on hog hunting ... an I need the help.

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Posted by Bama Bill on 08-29-2007 05:11 PM:

Oh yea and Mr. Graf ...

Mr. Graf ... Everyone of these big bad boar hogs in these pictures are alive an well an were released to go on there merry way after the pictures were taken. They are either cuffed or tied. Not so invincable ... but heythey ain't from Park Falls neither. LOL

And just for the record ... cause some of you folks might not know the feller using the handle "BamaBlacks"? He made his living, paid his bills, fed his wife an kids by trapping an capturing wild animals for the Federal government an state of Alabama! I might listen to a feller like that if he was to tell me something about how to attract a game animal? Now that's just me and I ain't from Park Falls or anything .. but I did stay in a Hoiday Inn Express once.

"A LITTLE STORY WITH THIS PICTURE"

I wasn't on this hunt but my hunting buddy was, an this kid we had been taking with us since he was about 10? in the picture he's 17 or so? Well they had put dogs out in two differant locations an this young mans dogs bayed this hog, my hunting buddy an his pal went to there dogs bayed an left this young feller to go to this hog not knowing it was this good! Well when E-Man gets there his two cur dogs one of which (in the picture) was bred an raised on my yard had this brute bayed up. Without a second of fear he sent his bulldog to catch an went in after to throw the hog an tie it. Well the hog wasn't having it an killed the bulldog DEAD! Well E-Man not wanting to loose such a good hog "talked" these two young cur dogs into catching this big ole hog an holding long enough so he could get it tossed an cuffed.
He was setting there all smiles when my buddy an his pal drove back up in the boat. LOL Two cur dogs and a kid on a 400 plus pound boar! Not to bad , I reckon we just grow em a little differant in Bama???

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Posted by pogo56 on 08-29-2007 06:12 PM:

thats a big pig...i think i need to come down and hunt some hog with you....i dont care if its 400 lbs....it can be 100 lbs and id be happy...but i have one quistion....you take a hog send in a catch dog and then you run up there grab the pig and tie him up...man i thought we had lost of sand in michigan...but you got some beaches you way.....

Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 08-31-2007 06:29 AM:

Bill
Why did you post such a snotty hostile post? I will try to respond to your childish rant. Here goes.

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So how are the "wild" or "feral" hog herds doing up in them parts? Or do yall got them big ole mean REAL Euroasian/ Russian boars?

Not well. We killed them all. We don't have any anymore, but they were part Eurasian, not pure.

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They're killed regular as clock work down here with a simple little ole .22 mag ... or bow, or shot gun, or smoke pole or my favorite my trusty ole .30/.30 Winchester lever action.

I hunted them in Texas and the bow hunters did not do as well as they do in Alabama. I never said they were tough. I said they had small vitals. Good bowhunters are wounding them and not getting them all the time in Texas. Why do you use a 30/30? Are you inviting everyone to come and shoot them with a bow over your dogs? It should be an easy shot with one catch dog on it.

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Hogs don't spend 85% of there time any where unless there in a pen or geographicaly shut it, hog move an feed an spend I would say about 12 plus hours a day doing it .. we catch about a 100 plus year so I know a little about em

That is insignificant to the topic. My reply was about tame hogs in MI. I have more expierience than you with tame hogs in this geography.

They do not need to travel to feed here. There is a worm any place you turn over the sod. It is really fertile here. This is hog heaven. The only reason to travel is to find a mate and pogo said they were already in a group. Being raised in a pen takes some of the natural behaviors out of them.

When we had a bunch here they could be seen almost any day if you knew where to look. People saw them cross the road five miles in every direction but never saw them twice. They were all killed in a 1/2 mile circle.

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If they fed some where for 85% of the day or bedded there there wouldn't be any way to hide that place or that fact ...

That is correct. You should see the damage they cause here because they do not travel like your wild Alabama hogs. If you find where they are living they are easy to exterpritate.

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And facts are it's mighty d@mn important where you put out your bait an how rank it is, not cause hogs like "stinky" stuff but because deer like corn. And if your hog hunting you ain't deer hunting.

I said it was important were you put the bait. I tried the sour corn and the hogs liked the corn soaked in deep fry oil better. The deer did not eat it like regular corn but they ate some and I did not care. The hogs went crazy for it and we killed them off. Remember, we do not have wild hogs in MI. and WI. They are released pen raised hogs. All your knowledge is wasted on these.

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Now I kindly await your reply an will be keen to have your input on the matter as you really seem to be an authority on hog hunting ... an I need the help.

Again, why are you so sarcastic? I replied to pogo's post. I did not say anything to you.

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Mr. Graf ... Everyone of these big bad boar hogs in these pictures are alive an well an were released to go on there merry way after the pictures were taken. They are either cuffed or tied. Not so invincable ... but heythey ain't from Park Falls neither. LOL

What a braggart! If you thump your chest anymore it will cave in. I never said they were invincible. I said they have a small kill zone.

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And just for the record ... cause some of you folks might not know the feller using the handle "BamaBlacks"? He made his living, paid his bills, fed his wife an kids by trapping an capturing wild animals for the Federal government an state of Alabama!

You would starve up here. Any moron can trap hogs. If you were working for WI. or MI. you would be failing on wolves. I never met a good predator trapper that brags like you do.

I forgot to mention that I raise pure bred Erasion boars for a hobby. We practice on them with our bear dogs. We don't throw many though. We quit as soon as the young dogs start to catch them. They are as tame as a domestic hog if they are raised in a pen. We do not have wild hogs up here. Occassionally some one sets some tame pen raised hogs free.

I hope you are pleased with my response that you just could not wait for.
Kyle
P.S. When can I come down and start flinging arrows at the hogs your dog is catching?

Posted by Bama Bill on 08-31-2007 07:04 PM:

Mr. Graf ... Mr. Graf ... Mr. Graf ...

"Bill
Why did you post such a snotty hostile post? I will try to respond to your childish rant. Here goes."

Mr. Graf,
There wasn't anything "snotty" or "childish" about the post ... I thought I was in the presence of a feral hog hunting expert. But then I read the post an that was rapidly depleted.
I don't kill them with a bow or even a .30/.30 more often than not it is with a knife after it is caught. Certainly wouldn't let a hunter shoot a bow over my dogs , I like em a little too much for that ... everyone isn't the "dead eye" you are an so good at "locating" those "small vitals"! LMAO I catch hogs for the sport of it an the enjoyment of good comradre an dog work no more no less, I do get offended by folks that seem to be attempting to profess there expertise of hog hunting when there be so many holes in there stories!!!
Hogs lots of hogs even domestic hogs if allowed to roam are grazers not rooters that they only root is a "falsehood" ... not that they don't root but they are omnivoures an will eat anything an everything. Boar hogs don't travel with the "sounder" or herd, boars are canabalistic even domestic hogs. Ask any hog farmer if he would raise his champion Chester White pigs in the same pen as his Champion herd sire Chester White Boar? The answer is gonna be NO!! Sows stay away from boars, boars satalite the sows an pigs herd an slip in and out to breed or canablize. Young imature boars will roam with the herd till ran off by the older sows or an agressive boar.
"Bama Blacks" isn't me you fool ... he's a friend an Federal trapper ... an he must be doing a pretty d*ng good job on the wolves ... we ain't got a single wolf in this state as of this post!!!
Way to go Scott!!!! I can't seem to find any info on the Net about Wisconsin's wolf problem or there old feral hog herd that was eradicated by the Graf strain of bear dogs? LOL Or the Graf precise kill spot stalk hunting method. LOL Please steer me in that direction I love a good read about hogs.
And what I really find ludracris is the statement that you raise "Eurasion" wild boar but only to train an use for practice on your young bear dogs!!! But that they are "tame" as "domestic" hogs! What then could they possibly bring to the mix that would help make these pups better bear dogs? Lets see a bunch of hounds piling on a "tame" hog to learn how to perform on a "wild" bear? Man you should write a book your full of training pearls. Some where if I can find it I got a picture of 8 week old Plott pups working a 130 pound straight out of the swamp wild feral sow ... at some point she tries to fight an flee, they do what any HOG DOG should do they "talk" her out of it!!!
Eight week old pups ... not big ole half grown hounds mauling a tame bucket fed hog. If you put any two or three of my "young" dogs in the pen with a tame even tame Eurasian hog they'll withen a few minutes just suck it up cause they'll size it up an know it hasn't the agression to keep them honest. I really can't see where the brag is in that statement? You'll teach young dogs a since of bravado that they shouldn't have when perhaps caution be a better tool not to mention most good bred hard hunted hounds will know when to put the fight on a bear or hog ... Fill me in maybe I missed something? These ole boys down south will run a bear with the same dogs we use on hogs an we do pretty good other than we lack tree power cause hogs don't tree an it's something the dogs don't learn. That statement just proves my point an idea about where you an your expertise where coming from!
Being a Eurasion or Russian hog has nothing to do with it being a bit tougher or more deadly ... facts are in the wild they just ain't many Russian/Eurasion hogs left at all if any. There are pockets of hogs that contain the genes or of hogs that were released by hunters to improve the hogs in there area. Hogs become totaly feral in only 3 generations in the woods. Russian type hogs run more an bay less, hence the reason a lot of hound hunters dump them out to breed with the existing feral hogs ... so as to have hogs that bay less an run more... thus giving there hounds better game animal to pursue. Ask anyone that has DOGGED any amount of wild hogs an they will tell ya .. Russians run but they ain't the best fighters on average, and a lot will just die under the stress of being caught an tied, had it happen several times. A good many hour long race on a hog will often indicate the possibility it might have some Russian type blood in it. Any good dog hunter will tell ya them coal black 150 to 200 pound "piney wood" rooter hogs will put you out of the hog hunting game faster than any type hog out there ... the big silver an black spotted an black an white listed ones are not any fun either. Your gonna need to forgive me if I seem ill over your posts but they seemed to be so PROFESSIONAL an yet lacked any real meat on the plate, but I tell ya what since it has become evident what type hog hunter you are "(tame pen raised pile on the bear hound type) I'll just let ya off the hook .... FOR NOW!!!
Enjoyed it sir.
Bill

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Mr. Graf I will say you were correct about the small window to the vitals on a feral hogs an I reckon I should have just posted this link an let sleeping dogs lie but it ain't in me .. when I see some one trying to explain a sport I love with so many inconsistencies I get offfended.... sorry. I should have just posted this link for POGO an moved on maybe but it ain't in me.

Here goes a good link for ya POGO .......
http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html

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Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 09-01-2007 02:25 AM:

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They're killed regular as clock work down here with a simple little ole .22 mag ... or bow, or shot gun, or smoke pole or my favorite my trusty ole .30/.30 Winchester lever action.

quote:
I don't kill them with a bow or even a .30/.30 more often than not it is with a knife after it is caught.

Hmmm.

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Certainly wouldn't let a hunter shoot a bow over my dogs , I like em a little too much for that ... everyone isn't the "dead eye" you are an so good at "locating" those "small vitals"!

I was being sarcastic. I was the one that said fooey to the bow idea. You corrected me. Now you are contradicting your self.

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I do get offended by folks that seem to be attempting to profess there expertise of hog hunting when there be so many holes in there stories!!!

I never made fun of your religion.

I gave advice to somone about killing some released tame hogs in MI. This thread has nothing to do with TRUE WILD HOG HUNTING. Everything I said was true. Get this through your head. I don't doubt for a minute that you are an expert hog hunter. Everything you know is wasted on the tame hogs that nit wits release in MI. and WI. This is not a sport. These animals are free ranging bucket fed hogs.

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And what I really find ludracris is the statement that you raise "Eurasion" wild boar but only to train an use for practice on your young bear dogs!!! But that they are "tame" as "domestic" hogs! What then could they possibly bring to the mix that would help make these pups better bear dogs? Lets see a bunch of hounds piling on a "tame" hog to learn how to perform on a "wild" bear?

I start the pups on a caged house cat. When they bay and tree the cat I am done. Then they go on tame sows. They start out rubber necking and then one time they attack. As soon as this happens they are done on pigs and ready for the bear woods. If you can't see how this gets the pup fired up and speeds up the training process then lets drop it.

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at some point she tries to fight an flee, they do what any HOG DOG should do they "talk" her out of it!!!
Eight week old pups ...

Why do you start them so late? I start mine at four weeks.

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.If you put any two or three of my "young" dogs in the pen with a tame even tame Eurasian hog they'll withen a few minutes just suck it up cause they'll size it up an know it hasn't the agression to keep them honest. I really can't see where the brag is in that statement?

Yes. Same here but I wouldn't bother to brag about it. When they get to that point they don't go in the hog pasture any more. Like I said, "then they are ready for the bear woods".

Here is Ralph, my sons and I. Ralph has gotten out of the pen before and he didn't go anywhere. After I fix the fence I shake a bucket of feed and he follows me back into the fence. This is the type of hog you encounter up here. If they were as wild as yours they would be unkillable up here.

He is a registered pure bred European Wild Boar. He is a zoo quality animal. He never gets used for starting pups. I just keep him because I think he is cool.

Kyle

Posted by bama blacks on 09-07-2007 04:18 PM:

Good looking hogs in the pics.

Bill those spotted hogs are the worst for killing dogs. No doubt.
I am going after one tonite in a corn field.

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Posted by sunuva on 01-26-2010 11:52 PM:

Just pour 1qt. of diesel over 40 or 50 pounds of corn and put it out. Nothing will touch it but pigs. They'll even roll in it. It's the same reason they rub telephone polls, they love that kreosote - helps with external parasites better than plain mud. You don't have to spoil the corn either, just pour the diesel on it and put it out, every so often. when they find it you'll know.

We do A LOT of pig hunting- in the great state of Texas - you can't kill them off a place fast enough, but I know this - there is as much B.S. about feral hogs as truth - so mid who you pay attention to. Bama Bills got it together - and check out this site..... TONS of info - and all these guys do is pig hunt and trap. I've used a lot of advice of this site and it is right on the money

www.texasboars.com

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