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Your Thoughts On Feeders In Comp Hunts
ON AVERAGE WHEN I PLEASURE HUNT I HUNT WILD COON ONLY (NOT ON FEEDERS ) BUT AROUND HERE IF YOU DONT HUNT FEEDERS IN A COMP HUNT YOU CAN HANG IT UP BE CAUSE YOU WILL NEVER GET A FIRST BE CAUSE THATS ALL THEY HUNT AROUND HERE I LIKE FEEDERS TO START A PUP BUT THINK IN A COMP A DOG SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN STRAIT TO THE COON THATS FOR PUPS LET THE DOG PROVE THERE SELF
I think it is a form of cheating and there should be a rule that anyone doing it should be banned for LIFE!
Ive got to go with Jim Hill's thoughts..........I hunt feeders every night, There called 1000 acre corn and milo fields around here!! Dont really care to go to your home turf and get dropped on buckets tho.
Should not be allowed. PERIOD
I don't think feeders should be allowed on competition hunts. Just my opinion.
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I think feeders are fine for training pups with some limitations. I do not think they should be allowed in hunts--Ever! It is just not fair to the other casts that are not hunting over feeders and it gives an advantage to the dog in the cast that knows where the feeders are at.
I wont hunt in a comp. hunt where they have feedef bucket's. If your dog cant find a coon with out help get rid of it. The guy that's guiding to where he has feeder bucket's know's darn well his dog is headed to the same tree he tree's 5 night's a week. These guy's can win alot of hunt's with feeder bucket's. Otherwise thier hound wouldnt win a hunt the old fashion way. Get in the dark and find one.
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Most of us from the northern states have zero experience hunting in nite hunts off feeders. I'm thinking if we lived in north Ga or east Tn, we'd have a completely different view towards hunting off feeders. I'm not gonna condemn something I know nothing about. It is a regional thing and will no doubt remain so.
Do a search on this topic its been BEAT TO DEATH.
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I would like to know UKC's position on this ???How about it Allen,let's hear the official stance.
Jim is right.
I never hunted on feeders in competition mainly cause I didn't have any out since I didn't have a pup I was trainin. Nobody wanted to draw me cause at most we would tree one coon in the two hour hunt and that's if they struck in hearing distance.
I put a feeder out once when I was trainin Candy. I put it across the road from my house in about 10 square miles of woods on a creek. It took 2 weeks, TWO WEEEKS to get one single solitary coon to using it. Do you think that coon went up close to the bucket? You better think again, half the time it would go a half mile down in the gulf after goin over the bluff before it could be treed (if you want to see click on my website and follow the PUPPIES link, thats what it went over). That's where I used to live before I moved here.
When I drew out with other people that had buckets I was very, very happy. I knew we would be able to score on probably 2 or 3 trees before the two hours got us at least. The races were not usually short, they usually ran over a quarter mile even on buckets. The only thing the buckets did was allow a strike within a decent amount of time, it didn't change how the coons ran. The only advantage the home dog had was strike points.
I hunted in Wapokennetta Ohio and saw 17 coons in one 2 hour nite hunt (I think there were 6 trees made and that's countin the ones in the trees made and the ones settin up). Coons settin up everywhere, they was thicker than squirrells at the park. I guess you wouldn't need a bucket there, hell a dog could just pick a tree, any tree, and have a good chance there was a coon in it.
Oh yeah, there was only one real race all night in Ohio, all the others were pop ups, 2 minutes or less, 50 or 100 yard "races".
That almost NEVER happens back up on the Cumberland Plateau, even with buckets the coons gonna run. Course they are thin, long legged and are used to having to look all night for a scrap of food instead of bein short legged, fat, and too winded to run a hundred yards.
Things are different in different areas of the country. Matter of fact coon huntin here in the Smokeys is much different than coon huntin back on the Cumberland Plateau and that's just about 3-4 hours difference in driving. Heck I used to drive about an hour West from home and tree 3-4 and be back home before I could have treed one 5 minutes from home.
There was that much difference.
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I think that if coonhunters have to get coons around a feeder to get there dog to tree one , they should probably get a real coon hound that dont need any help
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I DONT THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN COMP HUNTS BUT IF FOLKS DIDNT USE THEM IN PLEASURE HUNTING OR COMP HUNTING SOME WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR DOG CUTTING THROUGH THE COUNTRY RUNNING PAST TRACKS,,HAVING NO BRAKES,HAVING TO RIDE AROUND OR WALKING 5 MILES TO THEM,RUN PAST 10 TRACKS,YOU GUYS KNOW THE STORIES. I HAVE SEEN DOGS THAT WOULD RUN 4 MILES AND TREE A COON THAT WAS NEVER HUNTED ON A BUCKET. NOW IF YOU TAKE THAT DOG AND PUT HIM ON A BUCKET,,WILL THAT DOG HAVE TO GO 4 MILES TO TREE A COON? I DONT THINK SO IF COON ARE USING THAT BUCKET. KEEP IN MIND THESE DOGS WERE HUNTED IN THIN COON IN SC. THIS IS JMO ON THE SUBJECT.
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