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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 02:07 AM:

Competition Hunters Help

I never really cared for the hunts much but it seems like anymore you really cant get your hands on the best bred pups unless you do. I kinda gave my word that I would hunt this pup in the hunts. I have hunted in a few and won some but I really am not a very good Handler. I was wondering which you thought was best agressively calling your dog or playing it safe. And any pointers would be appreciated. I know of one problem I must correct, meeting me at the tree. I think the rule stinks and needs to be changed by UKC. I mean it is stupid to have a rule where a dog can meet you a short distance and go back with no minus unless you are winning, then you get minused. But I will correct that problem. Do you try to get first tree or are you more careful to make sure your dog is right?

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Posted by Dan Morris on 02-02-2007 02:48 AM:

call your hound for what he does. and i will tell you this that first tree 125 looks good..........if it is right. i have better scores with first to strike 100 and a second , third, or fourth tree that were right. the score stays up and there is always the split that goes from 25 to 125 that helps! I am not a professed professional but, i have took some culls and put the heat on the pros. if you got a coon hound that can win, let him hunt the coon.......not you. the more you pay attention to what your hound is doing and not worry about what the other cast calls are, your handleing will get better! just my opinion. handlers and hounds regardless of what you read on here are not made over-night !

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Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-02-2007 02:56 AM:

perry
we will go one night if you want and i will help you out! i call mine for what he does, thats the best advice i can give, I KNOW EVERY BARK THEY MAKE!! What are you hunting

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Come on people drop you're ego and admitt you just got beat, made a bad call, dog made a mistake, what ever.You can't get cheated that much


Posted by scott shaw on 02-02-2007 02:57 AM:

Strike the dog when he opens, Tree him when he trees!
I owned a young dog with another guy once and he hunted
him in a few hunts and couldn't win a cast. He wanted me to handle him, said he kept making the wrong calls and screwing
up, said the dog should be NT. CH. already. I told him not
to try and handle the dog and worry what the other handlers
were doing, just call the dog. In a few more hunts he put
two firsts and a second place on the dog.

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 03:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOBOOBRADY
perry
we will go one night if you want and i will help you out! i call mine for what he does, thats the best advice i can give, I KNOW EVERY BARK THEY MAKE!! What are you hunting

He,s a young blue dog. Yea id like to go and you could give me some pointers. I know you win your share. Id be a project because Im not terrible, but not good either. Thanks

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 03:09 AM:

Heading for Bowling Green tomorrow night to give it a try.

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Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-02-2007 03:10 AM:

You got me confused,LOL-- call me be glad to go

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Come on people drop you're ego and admitt you just got beat, made a bad call, dog made a mistake, what ever.You can't get cheated that much


Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-02-2007 03:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Chiggers
Heading for Bowling Green tomorrow night to give it a try.
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what's going on in bowling green? Remind me were green briar is

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Come on people drop you're ego and admitt you just got beat, made a bad call, dog made a mistake, what ever.You can't get cheated that much


Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 03:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOBOOBRADY
You got me confused,LOL-- call me be glad to go
Just saying, yea thanks, Ill take you up on that offer. Going to get a jump on you and go to the UKC hunt in Bowling Green tomorrow night. Then Ill tell you how I screwed up and maybe you can give me some pointers.

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Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-02-2007 03:20 AM:

WE have one fri, sat greensburg

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Come on people drop you're ego and admitt you just got beat, made a bad call, dog made a mistake, what ever.You can't get cheated that much


Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 03:22 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOBOOBRADY
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what's going on in bowling green? Remind me were green briar is

UKC hunt tomorrow night. Greenbriar is 6 miles south of B-town and 3 miles north of Holy Cross on Hwy 49.

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 03:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOBOOBRADY
WE have one fri, sat greensburg
This weekend? Its not in the back of Bloodlines.

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 03:46 AM:

In UKC how long after dogs are cast do you have before you have to strike or is it imediately? Does UKC have a stationary rule? How long is it?

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Posted by 1939 on 02-02-2007 04:07 AM:

First of all if you are serious about the nite hunts learn the rules before you enter. I don't understand your comment about meeting you at the tree ,if you inform the judge before the hunt starts that your dog will meet you it is ok unless he\she does not return directly to the tree. Don't know what you mean minus if you are winning.
There is no time limit as to when your dog has to open. They should find a track before opening. They also should had a coon up before treeing but these last two seem to be optional anymore.

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 12:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by 1939
First of all if you are serious about the nite hunts learn the rules before you enter. I don't understand your comment about meeting you at the tree ,if you inform the judge before the hunt starts that your dog will meet you it is ok unless he\she does not return directly to the tree. Don't know what you mean minus if you are winning.
There is no time limit as to when your dog has to open. They should find a track before opening. They also should had a coon up before treeing but these last two seem to be optional anymore.

You are right, I do need to learn the rules. Thats why I ask. I am not asking if there is a time limit before a dog has to open. I am asking is there a time limit before you have to Strike him after they are first cast. Also asking if there is a Stationary rule. That is a rule that they have in pkc where if your dog barks treed, but you dont tree him, then they will put time on him, and you must tree in that alloted time or get minused or scratched. UKC used to not have this rule but I had heard that they were going to get it. I was wondering if they had or not. Thanks

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Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-02-2007 02:45 PM:

perry
Summersville ky, feb.3 page 227

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 02:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOBOOBRADY
perry
Summersville ky, feb.3 page 227

Thanks.

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Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-02-2007 03:37 PM:

come on over, alot closer that bowling green, What time are you going to bowling green and which way do you go, might go hunt nitech

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Come on people drop you're ego and admitt you just got beat, made a bad call, dog made a mistake, what ever.You can't get cheated that much


Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 04:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOBOOBRADY
come on over, alot closer that bowling green, What time are you going to bowling green and which way do you go, might go hunt nitech
I was debating the time but I was thinking of leaving at 5:15 to 5:30. You are welcome. Ill go whichever way you want. 31 or 65. Where you want me to meet you and pick you up at?

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Posted by Chiggers on 02-02-2007 04:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Chiggers
You are right, I do need to learn the rules. Thats why I ask. I am not asking if there is a time limit before a dog has to open. I am asking is there a time limit before you have to Strike him after they are first cast. Also asking if there is a Stationary rule. That is a rule that they have in pkc where if your dog barks treed, but you dont tree him, then they will put time on him, and you must tree in that alloted time or get minused or scratched. UKC used to not have this rule but I had heard that they were going to get it. I was wondering if they had or not. Thanks

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Posted by SLIPKNOT on 02-05-2007 04:57 AM:

chiggers,just remember one thing.A COONDOG AND I MEAN A COONDOG,WILL WIN MORE HUNTS THAN A SLICK TREEING DOG OR A SLICK HANDLER..

HERES AN OL' SAYING THAT I FIRMLY BELIEVE..

IT DONT TAKE A GOOD HANDLER TO MAKE A GOOD DOG''
IT TAKES A GOOD DOG TO MAKE A GOOD HANDLER''

'''ONE OL' RICKY BEATS 10 SLICKIES'''

THEY WILL BE 100 PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THIS,BUT GIVE ME A COONDOG AND I WILL WIN MORE HUNTS THAN A HANDLER WITH A MUNGREL,

CHRIS PENDLETON...

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