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Jet Dogs
The dogs that I've hunted with are just grandpups of the old Jet 5 dog. But I liked them well enough.
What would everyone say are the domainate traits good or bad that these hounds are producing? And which of them is/has been the best reproducer in your opinions?
Don't want a bunch of trash talkin about pkc or the jet 8 dog. Just curious to here from people who have hunted with them or bred to them. Thanks!
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There is no one out there with an opinion? Come on give me a break!
Folks argue all night challenging them on here ,but can not tell me what they are breeding for. Or reproducing.
Was considering buying a pup. Not so sure without a little insight on how they hunt. I already know they can win. Coldnose ? Tightmouth? Boohooing fools? Fast on track?
Come on what are these suckers like, if they are so dang good lets here about it!
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Jason
First and most important as that there is holes in all breeds including The Jet dogs. Most start early and have natural treeing and trailing ability. Some cold nosed some warmer. The biggest thing and most important is to know the pups backround and how they perform in the woods and reproduce. Makes getting the right pup easier. They have faults lika all but have held thier own in a lot of peoples hearts. Hope this helps. Thanks Danny G.
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Well, all I can tell you about are the ones we have here. I have 2 males that are sired by Jet 6, and are out of a Hammer 18 and Jet 5 female.
I raised this litter, kept one male that we trained here ourselves. He has a hot nose, but can and will work an old feeder track just as well. Has a tenor bawl mouth, is a little tight on tract, will let you know when he first strikes a track, but not too open on it after that till he gets pretty darn close to the tree. Gives 3 long dying bawl locates then rolls it over to a short bawl when sure about the tree. He will go as near or as far as needed to get the job done. He has been a natural all along, treed the first coon he ever struck on at the age of 6 months, easy to handle and inteligent as well, very easy to obediance train. He is one of those hounds that when you talk to him he will look at you like he understands every word you say, lol.
He is CH NITECH "PR" Hovious' Blue Jet's Turbo.
We bought back one of his littermate brothers about 5 months ago, He is hot nosed, quick strike, and very open on track. Has a course mouth and when he locates he sounds like someone is gutting him wide open, lol. He is very intelegent also, and is also very well mannered and easy to handle. We haven't had a chance to put him in any hunts yet due to tough times here lately, but things are looking up and within the next 2 months we will be back on our feet and able to get out there again. Shouldn't take long to put a title on this male.
He is "PR" Magnum Blue Power Max
Turbo is a lean, well built athletic looking hound, Max is a big boned, heavy body mass old fashined looking hound. Just goes to show how much difference there can be in a litter.
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Mr. Glista,
I have a pup here out of my Rowdy dog who is out of Richard Casey's Hurricane dog. The pups Dam is out of Mead's Sioux Valley Woody and Timms Stella Blue.
I can see on the the papers that Woody is out of Jet 5. But have never heard of the Woody dog.
Thanks
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Jason
Woody was out of Jet V and Sioux Valley Fly II( many nice hounds came from this cross). Timms Stella Blue was out of Timm's Blue Sue and if my memory serves me right she was sired by Levi, just goin off the top of my head here. Sue is the dam of Trapper. I don't know who your pups mother is but they're are/were some very nice hounds out of the WoodyXStella cross. I have a little female here now out of Woody and NiteCh Wabash Bottoms Blue Tiny. She's beginning to make a nice little hound. Woody died last summer, J.D. Timms owned him. Jeff Timms owned both the Sue and Trapper dog, Jeff goes by the name deadriverblue on here. Either one of the fellars could give you some more information as they both have forgot more about these hounds then I'll ever know.
A few things I do know is normally, now there are exceptions, a Jet dog has a head full of sense and handle very well, they like to have the coon, can move a track hot or cold nicely, they're early starting and look to get treed at a very young age, they go until they find a coon and if the coons ain't movin you will have to do some walkin or drivin. They have their faults but I sure do like 'em!
What is the hole in the Jet dogs? I am not asking this to get something started, but just in curiosity. I know the holes in certain lines of Walkers, but am curious if the holes seen in other breeds are similar.
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I think it is the fact that they all don't turn out great, like other breeds and for me personally Some do not have the cold nose that I like. thanks Danny G.
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quote:I WILL GET HE!! OVER THIS...................I HAVE OWNED SEVERAL OUT OF JET V. THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY I SAY NOT ANY OF WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A COON DOG AND THEY DIDN'T STAY HERE.......I WOULD NOT EVER WANT ANOTHER ONE HERE OR WOULD I TAKE ONE IF IT WAS GIVEN TO ME.........HOWEVER I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE MADE IT OR LEAST THE REPRODUCTIONS RECORDS SHOW THEY HAVE.......I HAVE NOT OWNED ANYTHING OUT OF JET VI. AND UP BUT WOULD LIKE TO GET HOLD OF ONE OUT OF THE VIII. DOG AND I WOULD KNOW NOT TO THINK IT COULD WALK ON WATER........I THINK TO MUCH IS MADE OF A DOG'S WINNINGS IN THESE HUNTS AND ALL THE TALK AND ALL THE BULL CRAP GOES TO PEOPLES HEADS AND THEY FORGET WHAT THEY REALLY NEED AND THEN THEY START BUYING FROM LOOKING AT A PEDIGREE AND A STUD DOG WINNINGS BEFORE THAY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. JET VIII. I SUPPOSE IS AN OK DOG BUT HE HAS NOT BROKEN ANY RECORDS YET IN THE BLUETICK BREED AND HE HAS A WAY TO GO............HE JUST MIGHT BE THE ONE AND ONLY......WHO KNOWS
Originally posted by Russell Boyette
What is the hole in the Jet dogs? I am not asking this to get something started, but just in curiosity. I know the holes in certain lines of Walkers, but am curious if the holes seen in other breeds are similar.
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Jet dogs - what I've saw they are very natural treers and early starting dogs. Easily trained. Thats the good.
The bad - meaner than a seven headed rattlesnake.
Sioux Valley Woody x Stella
Woody was all coondog and threw some nice pups. He was not advertised and not bred to much. Everyone that lives around here knew how good Woody was. I would love to have one just like him. Stella was out of Jeffs old Susie female and Tree Assasin Blue Shyster. She sure treed her share of coon in her lifetime.
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Dave Goff
Thanks guys,
My uncle was commenting on the pup's head the other day. Wondering where it came from. I only have the three generation ped. But one of you guys mentioned the Levi dog in the ped. That made a lot of sense because I saw a picture of the hilltop Hank dog front view last night. And I thought wow what a resemblence.
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heres my take for what it is worth.
ed is as knowledgable breeder as there is and more hands on than 99% of them. basically he is going to get the type of dogs he is looking for.
what is he looking for? well imo, he hunts up north in extremly thick coon and he wants to win the big ukc hunts-which takes extremely high scores. now what type of dog does that lead you to?
quick to open borderline mouthy, quick locators, hot nosed, dont mind packing, stay put, easy to call treed dogs. all these boys calling out jet 8, i bet he would beat their eyes out in thick coons. thin coon, where one really has to go find one, work a track and be able to have the meat, i think there are better options.
some like jv, says ed deliberately went out and added the uchtman blood and that has taken the jet dogs to another level. jv also has gotten on here and questioned the uchtmans for never winning on the national level-so go figure? for me to make a opinion on that, i would have to see who bred 6's dam to jet 5 and how ed came about getting the dog and at what age.
regardless, i could be way off and mr. mead has forgotten more stuff in terms of dogs in a week than ill ever know. i believe he is the best there is when it comes to winning in ukc though and he has always been a gentleman to me and i wish him the best and i would reccomend at the very least alittle jet in your blue dogs.
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the oldest ride in the park, but still the longest line.
Rance.You going to the classic? If you are we are going thursday night.Gonna hunt olcmulgee wma that night if you want to ride up and join us.Its only about 45 min from albany up 75.
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Rance.You going to the classic? If you are we are going thursday night.Gonna hunt olcmulgee wma that night if you want to ride up and join us.Its only about 45 min from albany up 75.
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the oldest ride in the park, but still the longest line.
I also have very limited experience with Jet V bred Grandpups. The few folks I know and have spoken with seem to share some of the same thoughts I have. Early starting, first coon up, quick locating, pressure tree dogs that seem to outcross extremely well on many different strains. One thing for sure, Ed Mead has forgotten more about these old blue dogs than myself and many others will ever know. I am just glad I get to enjoy chasing some of these old biscuit eaters around because of his and many other peoples hard work and dedication.
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heres my take for what it is worth.
ed is as knowledgable breeder as there is and more hands on than 99% of them. basically he is going to get the type of dogs he is looking for.
what is he looking for? well imo, he hunts up north in extremly thick coon and he wants to win the big ukc hunts-which takes extremely high scores. now what type of dog does that lead you to?
quick to open borderline mouthy, quick locators, hot nosed, dont mind packing, stay put, easy to call treed dogs. all these boys calling out jet 8, i bet he would beat their eyes out in thick coons. thin coon, where one really has to go find one, work a track and be able to have the meat, i think there are better options.
some like jv, says ed deliberately went out and added the uchtman blood and that has taken the jet dogs to another level. jv also has gotten on here and questioned the uchtmans for never winning on the national level-so go figure? for me to make a opinion on that, i would have to see who bred 6's dam to jet 5 and how ed came about getting the dog and at what age.
regardless, i could be way off and mr. mead has forgotten more stuff in terms of dogs in a week than ill ever know. i believe he is the best there is when it comes to winning in ukc though and he has always been a gentleman to me and i wish him the best and i would reccomend at the very least alittle jet in your blue dogs.
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jet dogs
my jet dog out of dan cahoys jammer dog was treeing cats at 3 mths old, just like a 3 year old hammers a coon. he was very early starting treeing his first by hisself at 5 mths in broad daylight and had a litter in the tree with the momma he did that 2 times before he turned 1 yr old! he is now 3 and is turning into a great hound he is a firecracker full of energy and coon crazy. I live in nebraska where we have a decent coon population but sometimes they have to hunt for a track, he will go as far as it takes. the down fall with my dog is the hard grubby tracks he dont drift em like i want him to he grinds and grinds and dosent move the track forward very fast. One other down fall is he is so crazy about catching the coon that i believe he will kill hisself one of these days trying to get the coon, if he can climb it hes goin up as far as he can, if he can get in the hole hes goin in as far as he can, if he can get in the brush pile hes goin in as far as he can, within this last month i have had to cut him out of a giant brush pile taking me 2 hours and he quite barking after the first hour and i thought he was dead but we finaly got to him he was all tangled in the root ball and almost unconcious, the next night we went out he climbed 40 feet up in a tree and i had to climb up there and get him then the very next dump i got to the tree before he could climb it leashed him up walked back to the truck to get the gun on my way back he stopped treeing so i ran up there he broke the limb i leashed him to jumped up in the tree fell and was hanging there by his neck! So there is a good description of what my jet dog is like. I love him beacause he is all go no matter what but one of these days i wont be able to bail his arse out im affraid. I cant say to much for putting him in thick coon beacause i have never had him out of the state, but Dan took him to northern iowa once when he was a little over a year old and he tore it up hittin trees where there were dogs goin right by em, all night he said he looked real good.
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quote:It aint been to bad here.I've walked my tail off a couple times at the FOREST But we've treed coons everytime I've been but once.Friday night treed one 30 yards off the side of a rd.That was to easy.I bet next time will be rough!!!!!! I hate it you moved.This year has been 100 times better than last year.Call me some time and let me how your doing.
Originally posted by rance56
michael, im not going to be able to go this year, working saturdays also at my new job. how have yall been doing up there, its been HOT down here. rance
I HAVE A JET 8 PUP
I HAVE A PUP DIRECT FROM JET 8
I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE THING FROM THIS DOG THATS GOOD
HE IS AFRIAD OF EVERYTHING BUT THEN AGAIN THATS WHAT I GET FOR TAKING THE WORD OF HIS BREEDER AND HAVING HIM SENT TO ME I GOT SCREWED AND NOW I HAVE TO LIVE WITH MY TRUSTING MISTAKE
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To bad....
I've got one here, shows natural ability and some intelligence. 6mos. old and typically has alot of play in him. Soon that will change. Heavily Jet bred, other than a touch of Utchman from 8. Not all will make it though. Happy Huntin'
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