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King George our President

Class,
Those of you who are diehard Bush fans, lets observe his record/ accomplishments.
In the past five years since the terrorist attacked the US Osama Bin Laden a killer of 3000 Americans is still roaming the hills of Afghanistan planning future terrorist attacks against the US. Iraq is in a civil war, the Taliban is back in Afghanistan, Iran is inquiring nuclear bombs; North Korea has nuclear bombs and is now testing them, and Hamoss is what you get when you impose democracy. Thanks Mr. GW for all you have done and most of all thanks for your great military service. Oh, I forgot, little George stayed home and Mr. Kerry went in his place. (Believe it or not) George W. Bush’s intelligence is about as equivalent as the lazy Nintendo playing, internet surfing, 400 channel TV watching, microwave cooking, instant gratification obsessed oil freak, who follows those Fox channel, fear driving, right wing Hanity, O-Riley ,Tony Snow blowers, like blind sheep and has an attention span no longer than a 30 second commercial.

Safe Hunting and God bless this great land and those who defend it.

Re: King George our President

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Originally posted by lkmlake19
attention span no longer than a 30 second commercial.

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Since President Bush has been in office, how many terrorist attacks have occured after we declared war on terrorism after 911?

While Clinton was in office, how many times did terrorst attack us?


1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000.

1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel.

1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel.

1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000.

2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors.

American is safer now than with the last adminstrators. At least the current administration has done something about these terrorist attacks on Americans. Had the last admendistration done somthing about 7 years worth of terrorist attacks against us, 911 may have been prevented.


Tell us what Bush has to do with North Korea and Iran with nuclear bombs.

How is Bush going to stop it? Are you familiar with the UN? Do you even know what the UN is?

Blame Bush for everything that happens worldwide. Hell, blame him the next time your dog slicks tree, it'll have as much to do with like the same reason it's Bush's fault North Korea has nuclear bombs.

Ikmlake19, call up Bill Clinton and his buddy Madelyn Albright and ask them where North Korea got there nukes from> I bet they dont tell you the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!! DA

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not fair to blame GW for all that has gone wrong in the world, but the fact that his administration has done very little to remeidate and make things better does rest in his court... hope he accomplishes great things, but past experience does not indicate such... not a fan of the major parties and what they do, more concerned about what they are not doing, one can be critical of performance of elected officals, but still support the same... history will be the judge of the success-failure of the Bush years, at the moment that legacy appears as dark as a dungeon...

Now guys, Bush isn't responsible of everything -- I doubt that he has any control over the heatwave we're all sweating through.

But one thing for sure, while he has made a claim to be getting tough on terriorism, he is whittling away our civil liberties (how many of you would like to go hunting without a gun?). And while he may not be responsible for the SNAFUs that allowed Osama slip through the cracks - as the sign on FDR's desk said "the Buck Stops Here." It is ultimately the president's responsibility - whether he was the one to "pull the trigger" or not.

Also, since Bush has been in office, how many of you have lost loved ones in the Middle East war. Sure we "got" Sadam, but what good has it done? The country, while it had "elections" is in such a devisated state - equal to or worse than under Sadam.

Democracy is great -- if you have an economic base from which to make it work. If you have the infrastructure and educational base established. But it won't work if any of these factors are missing or inadequate. This is the situation in Iraq today. And don't get me started on Lebonan - they had elections, and what happened - a group that is declared terriorists was elected by the populace! So now the US is all up in arms - the guys that "We" wanted to win didn't, so now we don't want to play ball with the group that's in. Instead of opening diplomatic channels and talking with these folks, we shut them off, support Israel (we're talking billions of dollars a year) and now are appalled with the situation.

No, Bush isn't responsible, but it's his arrogance and policies that are taking this country down the drain! But the majority of the people elected him, so about all we can do is hope that there won't be any permanent detrimental effects on the US and that the rest of the world's opinion of America won't be tarnished.

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Just remeber one thing, if one of those islamo militant scum bags could get in your house they would kill you and your family and go to the next house. We either get rid of them now or leave it up to the next generations, when there is alot more. Sure the war is hurting all our wallets but thats a small price to pay.

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Originally posted by ohme
Just remeber one thing, if one of those islamo militant scum bags could get in your house they would kill you and your family and go to the next house. We either get rid of them now or leave it up to the next generations, when there is alot more. Sure the war is hurting all our wallets but thats a small price to pay.

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Lots of truths in most of those statements anyway. The problem is, anything less than blowing them off the map (and maybe the entire world will someday agree to that), will not stop anything. Cain slew Able. And it has'nt slowed down to this very day. The mid east is a lost cause. nothing will ever change because those folks don't want things to change. I say pull out completly and let them folks be. Let them fight their wars. When something like 9/11 happens, drop rather large goose egg on them and tell them to keep it up and you ain't seen nothing yet. The USA sticks it nose into to many other countries business. We deal with our problems, let them deal with theirs.

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If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

ZiffanyDogs great post.

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If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

some good thoughts... if it were not for $$$$ diplomacy the u.s. would not have to be involved in the affairs of other countries, no doubt the middle east is a situation that may never be under control, hebrew vs. muslim, shia vs. sunni, kurd vs. arab, persian vs. arab, tribe vs. tribe, on and on, but we trumpet democracy in nations that have no tradition-understanding empathy-or desire for it, that may be an unwinnable battle, hope-pray for best and that our brave men-women are safe-sound as they serve the nation with honor...

Since GW has declared war on terrorism and attacked Iraq, world wide there has been more terrorist attacks then the 8 years of the Clinton administration. It is true we have not been attacked on our home land soil since 911, but the one who did attack us on 911 and prior to 911 is still running free and planing the next attack. Yes it is true Clinton droped the ball when he had Osama's head handed to him, but we can now say the same of GW. He droped the ball when he took his eye off Osama to attack Iraq. I am all for getting the terrorist that are out to get us, but this president has done a poor job understanding who the grave treat is and a great job pulling the blanket over the eyes of america. Iraq has been under the watch dog for 10 years prior to our invasion. Attacking Iraq before getting Qsama the master mind behind those attacks you listed and 911 is now the failer of this president. 910 I was a supporter of GW, but after 911 the blanket was no longer blinding me. As for the UN? You need to ask GW where he stands with the UN. As history has it, GW more or less said to the UN prior to his Iraq invasion, "screw you, I go alone" and now asking for their help. I'm not a hung fan of the UN, but with the right leadership it can be a valid source, for fighting the terrorist.

Safe hunting

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Originally posted by Buckshot
Since President Bush has been in office, how many terrorist attacks have occured after we declared war on terrorism after 911?

While Clinton was in office, how many times did terrorst attack us?


1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000.

1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel.

1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel.

1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000.

2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors.

American is safer now than with the last adminstrators. At least the current administration has done something about these terrorist attacks on Americans. Had the last admendistration done somthing about 7 years worth of terrorist attacks against us, 911 may have been prevented.


Tell us what Bush has to do with North Korea and Iran with nuclear bombs.

How is Bush going to stop it? Are you familiar with the UN? Do you even know what the UN is?

Blame Bush for everything that happens worldwide. Hell, blame him the next time your dog slicks tree, it'll have as much to do with like the same reason it's Bush's fault North Korea has nuclear bombs.

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Originally posted by lkmlake19
I'm not a hung fan of the UN, but with the right leadership it can be a valid source, for fighting the terrorist.

Safe hunting

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Since GW has declared war on terrorism and attacked Iraq, world wide there has been more terrorist attacks then the 8 years of the Clinton administration.

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I think everyone of US that has posted on this thread need to be thankful we live in a country where we can express our opinions.

God Bless America!

It used to be blame it on El' Nino, now lets blame our problems on ol' George. Yeah I don't agree with everything that he has done, but if our President-that the majority of Country voted for- and if Congress agrees to go to war then I think we should support it just to keep the status quo here in America instead of making chaos over sees and here at home.



And in regards to QUOTE "Safe Hunting..."
I would be rather happy knowing that we have some one in office that is for Hunting, than the Kerry--Left Wing Liberals that could care less for God, Guns, and the poor folks that coonhunt. So in my own opinion I am just happy QUOTE "Little George" is here defending what rights we still have here America.

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Originally posted by Skinner
Lots of truths in most of those statements anyway. The problem is, anything less than blowing them off the map (and maybe the entire world will someday agree to that), will not stop anything. Cain slew Able. And it has'nt slowed down to this very day. The mid east is a lost cause. nothing will ever change because those folks don't want things to change. I say pull out completly and let them folks be. Let them fight their wars. When something like 9/11 happens, drop rather large goose egg on them and tell them to keep it up and you ain't seen nothing yet. The USA sticks it nose into to many other countries business. We deal with our problems, let them deal with theirs.

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I miss Mayberry,
where everythings in black and white.
and tan.

Blame Bush for everything that happens worldwide. Hell, blame him the next time your dog slicks tree.



Do you think that is really the reason dogs slick tree? Impeach him now...

mastered 1976

Thats one He@@ a response answer your telephone. Just kiddin!

Got it! Thanks, GW for the past 4 years you have kept us safe here at home. Prior to 911 its been 60+ years since our last huge attack on our soil RE: "WW2". Hats off to FDR/Truman.
The terrorist that attacked us prior to 911 as you noted, are still planing attacks on us today. I don't recall getting Osama, or did we? My point is this. I want my big brother to hit the bully that has been picking on me day in and day out, year after year, not the bully that runs his mouth. GW did the right thing by sending our troops after those that attack and killed our nations brothers and sisters, but when he decided to attack a nation before the real mission was acomplished, that is where I have a problem. No he can not make all the world safe nor can any persident, but selling the Iraq war on lies, dismissing the war generals advise on the amount of troops it would take, sending our men and women to war unequiped and with no real plan on how to exit, is not what I would call a good leader. It may sound like I hate GW, but the truth is, I don't. I just think he has put personal interest before the nation best interest both here and abroad.

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Originally posted by Buckshot
I really think you missed the point.

Re-read who those terrorist attacks were against.

Now, that you have re-read and saw who those terrorist attacks were against, please list all the terrorist attacks against the US since Bush did something after 911.

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I don't blame GW for everything that goes wrong, but I might try it in my next hunt RE: (slick tree)

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Originally posted by masterd1976
Blame Bush for everything that happens worldwide. Hell, blame him the next time your dog slicks tree.



Do you think that is really the reason dogs slick tree? Impeach him now...

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Now, that you have re-read and saw who those terrorist attacks were against, please list all the terrorist attacks against the US since Bush did something after 911.

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Since President Bush has been in office, how many terrorist attacks have occured after we declared war on terrorism after 911?

While Clinton was in office, how many times did terrorst attack us?


1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000.

1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel.

1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel.

1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000.

2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors.

American is safer now than with the last adminstrators. At least the current administration has done something about these terrorist attacks on Americans. Had the last admendistration done somthing about 7 years worth of terrorist attacks against us, 911 may have been prevented.

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731-780-4407
Frogjump TN
Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

How is posting the same facts not true?

Do you not believe they happened?

Did they not happen under Clinton's watch?

Again, I ask you to list they terrorist attacks that were aimed at the US since 911 and Bush did what Clinton wouldn't do.

Again, I say Americans are safer with this administration actually fighting the war on terrorism than with Clinton's.

- Hmm, London terrorist attacks. That was not aimed at Americans.

- boat blown up in Yemen - French (not American)

- assassation of Afgan vice prez (not American)

- bombing in Bali (not american)

- Bishop incendent (grabbing at straws cause some unstable 15 year old steals a plane and says he did it for Laden. Even the authorities said Charles Bishop had no known terrorist ties)

- Morrocco bombings (again not aimed at americans - The explosions struck a Spanish social club, a major hotel, a Jewish cemetery, a Jewish community center and the Belgian consulate)

- Riyadh bombings (yes it is true americans were killed)

Skinner, here is something you may want to read.

The Democrats who for eight years slashed the military, crippled the CIA, blamed America for the enemies it made, opposed the projection of American power (missiles and smart bombs excepted) into terrorist regions like Afghanistan and Iraq, dismissed acts of war as individual misdeeds, rejected airport security on "racial profiling" grounds, defended a commander-in-chief who put his libido above the security of his citizens, and still oppose essential defense measures like holding suspects and imposing immigration controls – these same obstructers and appeasers are now in full war cry against the President and are hoping to pin him with responsibility for the September 11 attack.


It is appropriate therefore that the crowning irony of the present Democrat attack is that it is the Clinton Administration not George Bush who knew of the plot to use airliners as bombs to blow up American buildings, that they knew it in 1995, that they did nothing about it, and that they kept this information from the Bush security team.

But first the background.

The first World Trade Center bombing was on February 26, 1993, one month into the Clinton Administration. The terrorists – Egyptians and Palestinians -- blew a hole six stories deep beneath the North Tower intending to topple it onto the South Tower and kill 250,000 people. It was – in the words of the definitive account – "the most ambitious terrorist attack ever attempted, anywhere, ever." Clinton did nothing. He did not even visit the site. Worse, he allowed the attack to be categorized as a criminal act by individuals, even though its mastermind – as the administration soon discovered -- was an Iraqi intelligence agent named Ramzi Youssef.


The second attack took place 10 months later in Mogadishu, Somalia. It was an attack on American military forces who were in country to bring food to the starving Somalis. In the battle, which has been memorialized in Black Hawk Down, eighteen American soldiers were killed and the body of one was dragged through the streets in a gesture designed to formally humiliate the world’s greatest super power. Clinton’s response? He turned tail and ran.


In 1995, Ramzi Youssef was captured in the Philippines with plans to use commercial airliners to blow up CIA headquarters among other targets. This al-Qaeda plot was termed "Operation Bojinka," which means "the big bang." After the discovery of "Operation Bojinka," Al Gore was appointed to head a task force to tighten airport security. Its key recommendations, which would have prevented 9/11, were rejected by the White House on the grounds that they might be construed as "racial profiling."


In 1996 the Khobar Towers – a barracks housing U.S. soldiers was blown up in Saudia Arabia by Iranian and Palestinian terrorists acting on behalf of al-Qaeda. Nineteen U.S. servicemen were killed but the Saudis refused to cooperate in tracking down the killers. The Clinton Administration did nothing.


In 1998, the year of Lewinsky, al-Qaeda blew up the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania– under any circumstances an act of war. Two-hundred-and-forty-five people were killed and 6,000 injured, mainly Africans. Clinton’s response? The infamous strike on a medicine factory in the Sudan and a spray of missiles into an emptied terrorist camp in Khost.


In October 2000, al-Qaeda attacked the U.S.S Cole, an American warship, killing 17 servicemen. Another act of war. The Clinton response? Nothing.
Every year that these terrorist attacks were taking place, Democrat congressional leaders supported bills to cut U.S. intelligence funding and/or hamstring CIA operations, and/or prevent the tightening of immigration controls – all of which would have strengthened American defenses against an al-Qaeda attack.


Meanwhile, the principle ally of Saddam Hussein, the architect of suicide bombing, the creator of the first terrorist training camps, and the apostle of terror as a redemptive social cause -- Yasser Arafat -- was a "partner in peace" and the most frequent guest at the Clinton White House among foreign heads of state.
Despite the fact that Republicans had fought Democrats for eight years over the military and intelligence budgets, over immigration and security issues, despite the alliances that leftwing Democrats had made with America’s enemies in the UN, despite the obstructionism of Senate Judiciary chairman Patrick Leahy in opposing domestic security measures and efforts by the Justice Department to bring al-Qaeda to heel, Republicans refused to point a partisan finger on issues of war and peace. Now their self-restraint has come back to haunt them as the Democrats seek to shift the blame they have done so much to earn to the shoulders of their political opponents.

The Democratic attack on George Bush is based on an intelligence analysis he received a month before 9/11, which indicated that al-Qaeda terrorists were planning to hijack planes. The described threats in this analysis came under the category "general" meaning they did not specify time, place or method, and they were uncorroborated. The reports the President received in the months prior to 9/11 described targets that were mainly overseas – in the Arabian Peninsula, Israel, Italy, Paris, Rome and Turkey. On the slim reed of the existence of a possible hijacking threat in the United States – included with all these others -- the Democrats have built their treacherous case.

Yet hijackings occur and have occurred for forty years. On most occasions they are stopped. Nine of the 9/11 hijackers were hauled out of airport security lines as they were boarding the fatal flights that September. But because airport security had not been tightened – and could not be tightened without a battle royal with Democrats over "racial profiling" the al-Qaeda hijackers were allowed to continue and carry out their sinister design. Shutting down the U.S. airline industry or sounding a national alarm that would produce the same effect in August 2001 on the basis of a vague report that a hijacking was possible is something no administration has ever done in 40 years of hijacking incidents. Yet this is the logic behind the Democrats’ present "investigation."

If, on the other hand, Bush had known what the Clinton Administration knew – that al-Qaeda had plans to use commercial airliners as bombs and fly them into buildings – specifically the CIA -- this would be a serious charge. But they did not know it, because the Clinton team never told them.

Although the Clinton security team knew that Operation Bojinka included blowing up the CIA building in Langley, Virginia, it kept this information from the rest of the government. When Dale Watson, chief of the FBI’s International Terrorism Operations Section testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in February 1998, he withheld this vital information. He identified Operation Bojinka only as a plot to blow up U.S. air carriers, and assured the senators that the FBI had the situation under control.

It is possible that Clinton never received the information about Operation Bojinka, since his lack of interest in national security matters throughout the course of his administration has been noted by many – including his chief political advisor Dick Morris, and his chief "biographer" Joe Klein. February 1998 – the date of the FBI testimony -- is also the month after Monica Lewinsky became a national celebrity.

The fact that Bush didn’t know about plans to hijack planes and run them into tall buildings was confirmed by Condoleeza Rice at her recent press conference:

Dr. Rice: Hijacking before 9/11 and hijacking after 9/11 do mean two very, very different things. And so focusing on it before 9/11 – perhaps it’s clear that after 9/11 you would have looked at this differently, but certainly not before 9/11.

Q: And no discussion in this briefing, or any others, about the possibility of al-Qaeda hijacking, and the fact that there have been active investigations into the possibility of a CIA building plot, or an Eiffel Tower plot. Never came up?

Dr. Rice: It did not come up.

On September 10, 2001 a document landed on the President’s desk that he had commissioned months before. It was a plan to dismantle and destroy al-Qaeda and had taken months to prepare. It was necessary because the Clinton administration had drawn up no such plan in the eight years before.

The charge now being led by the Democrats against the nation’s commander-in-chief as he attempts to protect its citizens against the next certain terrorist attack is worse than unconscionable. It is one more Democratic stake driven into the heart of the nation’s security. Limiting the damage, defending his authority, in order to protect Americans from further harm is now the daunting task before the President and his team
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