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Posted by Doug A on 11-26-2020 02:56 AM:

Dieing bawl mouth locate and genetics

Sitting here in the woods wishing I had one a dog with a hair raising locate and wondering if you could breed for that(among everything else). Anyone see a multi-generation genetic pattern where the same to die for locate carries through from dog to dog to dog?

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Posted by Cotton 1927 on 11-26-2020 03:57 AM:

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I had several Hayes bred dogs back in the day they all had good mouths with a big locate they were all out of Hayes and different females....I always thought that where it came from .....idk for certain Cotton


Posted by Hitman79 on 11-26-2020 06:39 AM:

Locate

Trackman


Posted by mike shannon on 11-26-2020 01:11 PM:

Hillbilly Mac

Almost all of my linebred Worldnite Champion Grandnite Smiths Hillbilly Mac bred dogs has a three ball locate.

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Posted by MUSKY on 11-26-2020 05:30 PM:

We have a granddaughter of Insane Cain that has a darn nice locate and is a sure enough put hides on the woodshed pleasure dog deluxe. We got lucky to find her, she is the first walker dog we have owned in 30 years and sure wish we could stumbled on to her when she was younger, she just turned 8.

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Posted by Ashley Pratt on 11-26-2020 09:14 PM:

Genetics might have some play in it but personally I think it’s the dog.


Posted by groworg1 on 11-26-2020 09:20 PM:

i had a bluetick in the 70's huge voice huge dying locate


Posted by James B Grice on 11-27-2020 12:39 AM:

Got a 7th Generation LineBred male here Got that Locate His Sire ,GrandMother Great GrandSire HAD THAT BAWL MOUTH Not all offspring from 4th generations got it but Majority did House/Coma Breeding

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 11-27-2020 02:43 AM:

We are on our 4th, and soon to be 5th generation of it.

Yes it can be kept, and yes it can be bred for without having to have a line bred pedigree, or any T-Man in it. While I do love it, it can be a detriment in a cast.

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Posted by N Williams on 11-27-2020 04:39 AM:

I had a female of stylish Harry’s hammer and a xjr female about 10 years ago that didn’t even sound like the same dog when she came off the ground and located. She had a squeaky mouth on track but when she located had just an absolute text book locate. Can’t tell you how many times she would be trailing off by herself in a cast and when she threw it people in the cast would say someone’s hound come to her it wasn’t the same dog. Also hunted with a English female about 20 years ago that had just a clear hound mouth trailing but when she came treed sounded like a pack of coyotes carrying on. But I would never sacrifice locate or mouth etc over ability. But I do love a hound with a distinctive locate.


Posted by BuckeyeBoys on 11-27-2020 04:00 PM:

BONE THREW ALOT OF DOGS WITH HUGE LOCATES


Posted by Travis Brown on 11-27-2020 04:12 PM:

Trackman and Skipper both threw excellent locates that would carry over several generations.

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Posted by dbpro56 on 12-02-2020 04:26 PM:

I had one off Kansas Dancer, that would raise the hair on the back of your neck, when he located! Big, screaming, sound like he stepped in a trap locate, and an every breath tree dog.

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Posted by BuckHicks on 12-02-2020 11:26 PM:

Big locate

Camo Man puts big locate on all of his pups


Posted by Bob Hennessey on 12-03-2020 06:44 PM:

Re: Dieing bawl mouth locate and genetics

quote:
Originally posted by Doug A
Sitting here in the woods wishing I had one a dog with a hair raising locate and wondering if you could breed for that(among everything else). Anyone see a multi-generation genetic pattern where the same to die for locate carries through from dog to dog to dog?

Doug do you have facebook? Is look up Jesse Walcheski. He has the Mr wilson dog and He got a young female from me called Joy. On his Mr Wilson page he has a video of Joy treeing. If you aren't on face book call Jesse he can't be that far from you.
She is a WALKER, but if you want to hear loud !

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Posted by Doug A on 12-10-2020 04:46 PM:

Thanks Bob, I'll check him out.

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Posted by bowling on 12-11-2020 10:52 PM:

Skuana river bark I had sons and now grandsons they still make your hair stand up on that big bawling locate best I ever heard.


Posted by 150 on 12-11-2020 11:09 PM:

I am hunting one now that has a 3-4 long bawl locate. Directly off of mojo


Posted by Wes Coffman on 12-13-2020 03:48 PM:

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Originally posted by N Williams
I had a female of stylish Harry’s hammer and a xjr female about 10 years ago that didn’t even sound like the same dog when she came off the ground and located. She had a squeaky mouth on track but when she located had just an absolute text book locate. Can’t tell you how many times she would be trailing off by herself in a cast and when she threw it people in the cast would say someone’s hound come to her it wasn’t the same dog. Also hunted with a English female about 20 years ago that had just a clear hound mouth trailing but when she came treed sounded like a pack of coyotes carrying on. But I would never sacrifice locate or mouth etc over ability. But I do love a hound with a distinctive locate.


Nick...tried to send you a PM on the Dot dog you hunted. It said your box was full.


Posted by david.e.penley on 01-09-2021 12:07 AM:

Locate

I have two females out of Insane Cain and Trackman that has a awesome dieing bawl locate on them that you can hear way way off. Very loud mouse, bawl on the track and chop on the tree. Both Grnitech.

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Posted by david.e.penley on 01-09-2021 12:07 AM:

Locate

I have two females out of Insane Cain and Trackman that has a awesome dieing bawl locate on them that you can hear way way off. Very loud mouse, bawl on the track and chop on the tree. Both Grnitech.

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LONE PINE T-REX (SEMEN)

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PISSES THEM OFF !

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PKC CH GRNITECH GRCH' PR ' WHITE'S LITTLE QUEENIE
( GRNITECH ' PR ' TURPIN'S INSANE CAIN x
CH GRNITECH 'PR' FROST BITE ) OUT OF TRACKMAN.
5 GENERATION ALL GRAND !
5th PLACE FINALIST 2017 WORLD HUNT

PKC CH GRCH NITECH "PR" LONE PINE TAR HTX
( Grnitech Lone Pine Legend and Grniech Stylish Daisy ) Triple Coma and Lone pine as close as your going to get it.
Tar is being hunted and being showed in UKC. Being hunted in pkc also.

"PR" Madcap's Insane Sue
( Grch Grnitech "PR" Insane Madcap and
Insane Gypsy ) " a natural"


Posted by Black Ash Bawl on 01-09-2021 06:44 AM:

REDBONE

https://redfeverredbones.tripod.com/id53.html Here is a breeder by you that may be able to help you out. You might already know him. Lives west of madison wis. which is not too far from you.

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