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Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-13-2018 06:52 PM:

Q&A's - Nite Hunt Degree Structure

Nite Hunt Degree Structure.
Nite Champion, Grand Nite Champion degrees, and beyond earned as follows:

a. Five (5) cast wins to earn Degree of Nite Champion.

b. Eight (8) cast wins in Champion division to earn Degree of Grand Nite Champion.

c. After a dog has earned the Degree of Grand Nite Champion, each additional eight (8) cast wins will earn a Degree of GRNITECH2, GRNITECH3, GRNITECH4, and GRNITECH5.

d. A dog having earned a grand total of 50 cast wins will earn a designation of UKC Hall of Fame.

Ask your questions, as it relates to this specific item, and we'll try to answer in a timely manner. Thanks.

Posted by D Terrell on 09-13-2018 07:51 PM:

Are you going to count wins that a dog already has or will they drop off 1st of year and start over ?

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Posted by TylerOSU on 09-13-2018 08:23 PM:

Earleir post

The way he posted it earlier (he took post down to repost to here) he stated that any placements a dog has goes towards cast wins.

For example:

Ole Sounder has 5 open registered cast wins but cant get a first. He is now then a Ntch. If he had 6 cast wins only 5 would count.

Ole Suzie has 4 Ntch wins towards grand. She will now need 4 more CWs to be considered a GrNt.

Ole Bill has 2 Open wins towards Ntch. They count at 2 of the 5 CWs needed for Ntch.

It's in your best interest to finish Bill and Suzie before the first of the year.

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-13-2018 08:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by D Terrell
Are you going to count wins that a dog already has or will they drop off 1st of year and start over ?

Tyler is correct.

Any placement or win a dog currently has on its record will translate into a cast win, come January 1.

Posted by Joe Moore on 09-13-2018 08:36 PM:

When you do a points check on your dog will it now start saying CW's I assume instead of points total. When could you expect that change over, wondering for an older dog.

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Posted by TylerOSU on 09-13-2018 08:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joe Moore
When you do a points check on your dog will it now start saying CW's I assume instead of points total. When could you expect that change over, wondering for an older dog.

They are starting this system on Jan 1st and are going back to 2008 on this system.

Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-13-2018 09:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joe Moore
When you do a points check on your dog will it now start saying CW's I assume instead of points total. When could you expect that change over, wondering for an older dog.

We might have to put Tyler on the payroll, He's on a roll with this stuff!

Joe, that is correct. You won't start seeing that until after the first of the year though.

Also, I'm expecting any wins to also look something like this:

CW1
CW2
CW3
CW

Something that shows when a dog also placed 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, for Performance Points purposes.

Posted by TylerOSU on 09-13-2018 09:28 PM:

Payroll!! $$$

Hey I could always use a second job! You need a rep here in Oklahoma/Missouri now don't ya?!

Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-13-2018 09:40 PM:

Re: Payroll!! $$$

quote:
Originally posted by TylerOSU
Hey I could always use a second job! You need a rep here in Oklahoma/Missouri now don't ya?!

We could use a rep in Oklahoma just to watch that crazy yadkin tar guy.

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 09-13-2018 10:07 PM:

Re: Re: Payroll!! $$$

quote:
Originally posted by Allen / UKC
We could use a rep in Oklahoma just to watch that crazy yadkin tar guy.

Tyler does have plenty of down time with those cushy bankers hours he works 😉.

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Posted by Night Shift on 09-14-2018 04:22 AM:

Allen at what point will you notify owners of additional degrees they have won by going back on cast wins?

Will you guys give us a way to look at this on the website? otherwise you’re going to get 20,000 calls the first month of January.

So final 4 in slams doesn’t count as cast wins. But what about Autumn Oaks and the World hunt? Have you made any decision on these extra cast wins in extremely tough competition.

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Posted by wjoey on 09-14-2018 03:46 PM:

Re: Re: Payroll!! $$$

quote:
Originally posted by Allen / UKC
We could use a rep in Oklahoma just to watch that crazy yadkin tar guy.

I thought that Yadkintar was on the payroll now

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-14-2018 04:11 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Payroll!! $$$

quote:
Originally posted by wjoey
I thought that Yadkintar was on the payroll now

They going to have to retrain me joe but I am up for it.

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-14-2018 06:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Night Shift
Allen at what point will you notify owners of additional degrees they have won by going back on cast wins?

Will you guys give us a way to took at this on the website? otherwise you’re going to get 20,000 calls the first month of January.

So final 4 in slams doesn’t count as cast wins. But what about Autumn Oaks and the World hunt? Have you made any decision on these extra cast wins in extremely tough competition.

Jason, we've not yet decided a path of notifying owners other than a surprise degree in the mail. We'll need to discuss ways to eliminate those kind of calls.

As for cast wins at Oaks and the World; I have my proposal but need to still get a stamp of approval before I put it out there.

Posted by Night Shift on 09-14-2018 06:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Allen / UKC
Jason, we've not yet decided a path of notifying owners other than a surprise degree in the mail. We'll need to discuss ways to eliminate those kind of calls.

As for cast wins at Oaks and the World; I have my proposal but need to still get a stamp of approval before I put it out there.

My Vote is they should count. You won’t get any stiffer competition in hunting. Dogs should get credit for hard fought cast wins.

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-14-2018 07:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Night Shift
My Vote is they should count. You won’t get any stiffer competition in hunting. Dogs should get credit for hard fought cast wins.

Then we agree. We'll see.

A dog with no nite hunt history that goes on to win the World Hunt would have accrued five or six wins (dependent on one or two night cast wins at the Zones) from start to finish. That's the equivalent of a Nite Champion degree plus one or two cast wins towards Grand. I doubt many would argue that was too much credit.

Posted by RRILEY on 09-15-2018 03:53 PM:

Do cast wins at the World Finals count or still like the current system where it’s only the final cast get a win towards grand?

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Posted by Big Pete on 09-15-2018 05:25 PM:

So do I understand this right, that from now on the NTCH would hunt with the GRNTCH from now on?

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Posted by berger on 09-15-2018 05:33 PM:

Re: ?

quote:
Originally posted by Big Pete
So do I understand this right, that from now on the NTCH would hunt with the GRNTCH from now on?

After January 1st the Gr Nt Ch will hunt with the Nt Ch.

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Posted by Larry S on 09-15-2018 08:27 PM:

Cast win

Do you have to have plus points? Or just a cast win with circle or minus?

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Posted by berger on 09-15-2018 09:34 PM:

Re: Cast win

quote:
Originally posted by Larry S
Do you have to have plus points? Or just a cast win with circle or minus?

Plus their is no cast win if you just have circle or minus.

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Posted by Claude Coville on 09-15-2018 10:01 PM:

hello

this should be money maker for ukc sounds about a bright as htx hunts if I see dog with htx I know there is hole in dog somewhere lol

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Posted by DFred on 09-15-2018 10:37 PM:

Re: hello

quote:
Originally posted by Claude Coville
this should be money maker for ukc sounds about a bright as htx hunts if I see dog with htx I know there is hole in dog somewhere lol

Say what? There are holes in all dogs.

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Posted by Larry S on 09-16-2018 12:59 AM:

Re: Re: Cast win

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Plus their is no cast win if you just have circle or minus.

How many points did the Grand Masters winner have?

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-16-2018 05:12 AM:

Re: hello

quote:
Originally posted by Claude Coville
this should be money maker for ukc sounds about a bright as htx hunts if I see dog with htx I know there is hole in dog somewhere lol

I've heard this several times and I hope it is a huge money maker. If it is, then that means the clubs are making even more!

My math suggests that if the club gains five more entries then they normally would; at $20 per entry, they stand to gain $100 and UKC would gain $10. So yes, I hope clubs will see some grands come back and they benefit from it.

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