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Just one thyroid question

For those of you with a thyroid dog what dosage of med are you giving and are you giving once a day or twice? Don't need another complete discussion of this issue, just dosage and frequency. Thank your for your input.

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Tom Wood

Dosage depends on the dog. Start at .8 and regulate according to blood level. Used to give meds twice a day but newer studies show that it can be given once a day.

4play do you give 1. twice a day for daily total of 2 mg or .5 twice a day for total of 1 mg.

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Richard Lambert from what I have read the newest thought is that once a day is best. Looks like it used to always be twice a day but when they did studies once a day was better. Thanks for the reply.

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Preacher Tom

I take my thyroid meds 1 time a day, in the morning 1 hour before eating that gives the meds time to absorb. Give on an empty stomach. Dave

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Once u get his level where u want it, hunt him regular amount for 2 weeks and check it again. The harder u hunt one, the more of it they need. If you keep giving that amount and stop hunting them the level will raise. It’s a fickle balance act

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
4play do you give 1. twice a day for daily total of 2 mg or .5 twice a day for total of 1 mg.

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Preacher Tom. The past has always been twice a day but I know a vet that his throughs are the same as what you read and any dog he prescribes the medicine to is ONCE a day.

That is totally contrary to everything I have ever heard on the subject. I know most twice a day medicines are becuase you want to maintain a level in your body and once a day spikes and goes away in about 12 hours and you don't maintain the average you need. I am confused do to relay on anything I say. Except I know one vet and agrees with what you have read.

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I take thyroid meds 1x a day, first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I have done this for years under the care of a thyroid specialist. The thyroid gland on a normal subject acts exactly the same way in that the thyroid excreted the hormone first thing in the morning. The life of the Rx meds is 24 hours not 12 hours. If a grown adult human only needs 1 x day, why would a smaller dog need 2 x day? Both take the exact same thyroid medication. Dave

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
I take thyroid meds 1x a day, first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I have done this for years under the care of a thyroid specialist. The thyroid gland on a normal subject acts exactly the same way in that the thyroid excreted the hormone first thing in the morning. The life of the Rx meds is 24 hours not 12 hours. If a grown adult human only needs 1 x day, why would a smaller dog need 2 x day? Both take the exact same thyroid medication. Dave

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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
Preacher Tom. The past has always been twice a day but I know a vet that his throughs are the same as what you read and any dog he prescribes the medicine to is ONCE a day.

That is totally contrary to everything I have ever heard on the subject. I know most twice a day medicines are becuase you want to maintain a level in your body and once a day spikes and goes away in about 12 hours and you don't maintain the average you need. I am confused do to relay on anything I say. Except I know one vet and agrees with what you have read.

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Guess my vet knew this and I didn't trust him after paying him. lol He said once a day.

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You are correct and your post was spot on as usual, you continue to impress me with your wide range of knowledge. As I have stated several times before, you are s special person, always one of the first to help someone. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Dave

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Thanks everyone for the replies. It helps to get info from different sources. I am giving 1 mg per day, once per day, in the morning and feed at night. Preacher at least acts a lot better in the kennel. Bouncy and bright eyed which he had not been. Will take him tonight and see how he performs. No one could know how bad I want him to be ok. Just really like this dog.

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Tom

Hang in there, it takes some time to get it corrected, but a piece of cake after you get it stabilized. Dave

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Thought I would update this thread on how Preacher is doing. Been giving him 1.5 mg for about 30 days. About 30 days ago we did the full panel test that did show he had a thyroid problem. Started him at .8 in October, moved up to 1. and now at the 1.5 mg. each time he has been tested his level has been .9. Not one bit of improvement. He looks extremely good. His hunting has been up and down but is definitely better than when we started. Vet has looked for any underlying causes and can't find any. I really don't know what to do. Right now he's a decent coondog but he was a good night after night dog. Don't really think he will ever be back to what he was. Just thought I should let you guys know.

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Originally posted by Sonny Phipps
Once u get his level where u want it, hunt him regular amount for 2 weeks and check it again. The harder u hunt one, the more of it they need. If you keep giving that amount and stop hunting them the level will raise. It’s a fickle balance act

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
Thought I would update this thread on how Preacher is doing. Been giving him 1.5 mg for about 30 days. About 30 days ago we did the full panel test that did show he had a thyroid problem. Started him at .8 in October, moved up to 1. and now at the 1.5 mg. each time he has been tested his level has been .9. Not one bit of improvement. He looks extremely good. His hunting has been up and down but is definitely better than when we started. Vet has looked for any underlying causes and can't find any. I really don't know what to do. Right now he's a decent coondog but he was a good night after night dog. Don't really think he will ever be back to what he was. Just thought I should let you guys know.

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You must give thyroid med on an empty stomach so they can be absorbed. I take mine on an empty stomach at least 1 hour before eating anything. Just as your post stated, it MAKES the difference in how it works. Dave

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Vic and Dave have been giving dose at 8 in the morning. Full dose once a day. Feed at night. gone from .8 to 1.5 dose and level is .9. Vet has suggested going to split dose but can't really see how that could help. Think she's just at the point of trying anything. She has consulted with LSU.

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Well I thought I would update this thread. My Preacher dog has been back to normal for 2-3 weeks with hard hunting. Really glad to have him back. Treed two tonight and then ran one for 35 minutes and caught him on the ground. Funny thing is according to all the testing his level is still .9. Time to check again in about 10 days so we will see. All I know he is fun to hunt again.

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Glad to hear he is back to his old self and treeing coons. Just keep on giving the meds in the morning on an empty stomach, it definitely takes time to see the full results of the meds, but it WILL come. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Ok as someone that takes care of thyroids in people I will weigh in on this a little. I do thyroid surgery and maintain it after surgery, dogs and humans are NOT the same.

The medications have different half lives and dogs react different than humans.

A human would be dead, literally in the ground, at some of the levels these dogs run around on and seem fine only have a little issue with hunting. That low of a thyroid would kill a person.

So you can't really go by what works for humans, that's why they do these studies. There are plenty of medications that have different doses in humans than in dogs due to the different metabolism some the dose or frequency is higher in humans, some it is less it depends on the medication.

Also, this thyroid issue is "relatively" new in the vet world. Now the argument is has it always been this way and we just didn't know it and we just know about it now or has something changed.

That's why there is differences in the literature on the best dosage. We will know more in the future as they do more studies on the issue.

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
Well I thought I would update this thread. My Preacher dog has been back to normal for 2-3 weeks with hard hunting. Really glad to have him back. Treed two tonight and then ran one for 35 minutes and caught him on the ground. Funny thing is according to all the testing his level is still .9. Time to check again in about 10 days so we will see. All I know he is fun to hunt again.

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
Well I thought I would update this thread. My Preacher dog has been back to normal for 2-3 weeks with hard hunting. Really glad to have him back. Treed two tonight and then ran one for 35 minutes and caught him on the ground. Funny thing is according to all the testing his level is still .9. Time to check again in about 10 days so we will see. All I know he is fun to hunt again.

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