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Things I’ve noticed/learned lately

I have been around coonhunting a long time, but couldn’t really commit time to it like I had always wanted until I retired from the Air Force in 2014 after 24 years of service. I get extreme pride and reward by producing puppies that people can maybe achieve their own goals...that is why I have a kennel. For the pleasure and excitement of this sport. So, last year I decided to get into it and bought a few nice “Quality” females....everyone says, the females are the key, so I started there. I then bought a Nailor semen male (Hawk)....which died Aug 3 before I even got to see him. I was lucky to have someone offer to sell me theirs, which is how I got Kid. When I bought him and hunted him...he missed more than I liked and I consulted with Mr. Jess Dickerson which told me these pups were started on squirrels young which would explain some of it. I hunted him more and more and his accuracy improved rapidly with correction. I hired a person to hunt him for 45 days and they shot many coons to him....when the time was right he hunted in the remaining few hunts he needed and finished to GRAND. Whether he was the only dog to show up or only one cast....the rules are the rules. His entry fees where paid, he treed coons and he got his wins and is now a GRNTCH. Is he perfect....no, but he is mine and I feed him, so that is what matters to me. He is directly out of Nailor and there aren’t many left. I am not going to turn him loose again until he is collected....we tried last week, but he didn’t like his wiener touched, so he is not an easy collector. Once I have a few breedings, I have no problem showing him anytime.

Things I’ve noticed:
This sport is filled with jealousy and greed. People concern themselves too much with what others are doing in their yard than their own. I just don’t understand why people worry about what females I am breeding. This business is small and if people talk, it will get back....some have been mad because I am breeding for free....again, how is that hurting anyone. Timothy Ball said one time, the only way to see if a dog reproduces is to breed them, so that’s what I am doing. With everything I’ve heard, I’ve not one time confronted them....I really don’t care.

People say the NTCH and GRNTCH titles don’t matter to them, but then nobody will buy pups...or if you do have NTCH or GRNTCH bred puppies, people will say they are fake. I will say this, every female I own has, can or will tree coons in the wild, not on buckets or fake videos. In addition, none of my females or Kid is own thyroid pills or any other pills to try and make them do more. I bought most of them first, so I would have great females.

Kid has bred 20 females in the last 14 months
10 GRNTCHs (one being a Gold Champion and 7 of them being all grand))
4 NTCHs
2 PR females (both directly out of WLDNTCHs)
4 other PR females that people are extremely proud of that are coondogs


So, to the ones saying I am breeding crap females, they are mistaken.

His oldest litter is 12 months old...most puppies are 5 months old....there are none for sale and I have a waiting list for pups. They are smart, showing to be early starters, and great acting pups.

I plan to continue doing what I am doing....raising high quality, top bred treeing walker puppies so people have a chance to own a good one. I am not in the stud dog business, I am in the awesome puppy business. There are other great stud dogs out there and I plan to breed to some of them, like MADCAP or Gunslinger...or even others.

I have met some amazing people in this process which makes it all worth it.

Sorry so long and I hope everyone understands what I am saying, and if it applies to you about worrying about what I’m doing....please don’t worry, there are enough females in your areas that will not travel thousands of miles to me.

Tim
#NailorNation

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Tim Green

Well spoken, stay true to yourself my friend. Good luck in the future. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Well said Tim. You know your turning heads when poeple start talking smack. Every good product has critics. I wouldn't sweat it. It would just push me harder to piss them off. Me and Dixie will be coming to see you in a couple months. I cant wait for my Kid pups.

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Robert & Corey Hitt

Very well said Tim that is what is killing this sport and is why I'm about done with the hunts myself and just pleasure hunting. I really enjoyed talking to you on the phone and if you weren't so far away I would be bringing my female to you. Good luck to you and if you ever want to send a Male pup up my way let me know. And like I told you if you get him collected in Indiana I'm more than interested

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Todd Byers
Camanche, Iowa
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( Mojo On Tap X Midnight Fly )

I remember Nocturnal Nailor...he was in the spotlight for a while and still is talked about...he was one of those few hounds that had that “AIR” of greatness about him...

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Tim just keep doing the voodo that you do so well.


Tar

I always heard this was only a issue with the off breeds. LOL

Obviously there is more to this then we we know, and that is good cause I don’t want to know all the gossip anyway. Breed what you like and stay focused on your goals. It sounds like you have done more then most to get good pups. And most of all thank you for your service to our country!

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Get deep or Get Beat!

Thanks everyone for the kind words and encouragement. My goal is as it has been from the beginning...produce a good balanced hound. Meet people and enjoy or sport. I am more of a pleasure hunter than anything, but enjoy seeing people excel with pups I have produced.

My post is just a blanket statement based on what I have experienced in the last 6 months.

Thanks again

Tim

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Re: Things I’ve noticed/learned lately

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Originally posted by Tim Green

Things I’ve noticed:
This sport is filled with jealousy and greed. People concern themselves too much with what others are doing in their yard than their own. I just don’t understand why people worry about what females I am breeding. This business is small and if people talk, it will get back....some have been mad because I am breeding for free....again, how is that hurting anyone. Timothy Ball said one time, the only way to see if a dog reproduces is to breed them, so that’s what I am doing. With everything I’ve heard, I’ve not one time confronted them....I really don’t care.

People say the NTCH and GRNTCH titles don’t matter to them, but then nobody will buy pups...or if you do have NTCH or GRNTCH bred puppies, people will say they are fake. I will say this, every female I own has, can or will tree coons in the wild, not on buckets or fake videos. In addition, none of my females or Kid is own thyroid pills or any other pills to try and make them do more. I bought most of them first, so I would have great females.

Tim
#NailorNation

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Charlie Portwood Jr.

I guess having a dog people want to breed to has amplified it. Only really been doing this since August with a male dog, so I guess seeing this other side of it is sad.

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Good thing......

You aren't in Blue Clique.You'd see way more jealousy,back stabbing within.

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4play

That kind of behavior is why the breed has suffered, United we stand divided we fall applies to all things. Unity has it's advantages . Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Burrito Tim!

On a side note Tim I still haven't got to try any of those gourmet breakfast burritos! LOL

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Maybe if I stick around longer than an early round like you, I could have ‘em ready at club house for you. Lol

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Re: Burrito Tim!

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Originally posted by TylerOSU
On a side note Tim I still haven't got to try any of those gourmet breakfast burritos! LOL

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You need all the high octane boosts you can get.

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

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Originally posted by Tim Green
Thanks everyone for the kind words and encouragement. My goal is as it has been from the beginning...produce a good balanced hound. Meet people and enjoy or sport. I am more of a pleasure hunter than anything, but enjoy seeing people excel with pups I have produced.

Thanks again

Tim

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Originally posted by HOBO
That should be EVERY breeders goal!

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

quote:

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Originally posted by HOBO
That should be EVERY breeders goal!

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

It's been a year or two. LOL

Good luck with your dog

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Remembering Our Past......
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch.Dohoney's Lobo
Ch.Swampmusic Lil Bit Sassy
Ch.Swampmusic Misty Shadow
Gr.Ch.Swampmusic Boone
Gr.Ch.Swampmusic Pride
But Looking To The Future...

Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch.Swampmusic Big Hoss




Dennis Robinson
Cell 540-295-3892