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Posted by Allen / UKC on 06-14-2018 05:26 PM:

Three Situations / Automatic Cast Vote

In our last poll we asked how you would score a tree where two handlers voted to circle and two handlers voted to minus the tree. 13.57% voted that the hunting judge's vote would determine how it would be scored. In other words, if the judge and one other handler voted to minus the tree then there would not be a majority to overturn the judge's vote.

That would be true under most situations (takes a majority to overturn the judge's decision). However, there are three (just 3) situations that automatically go to a cast vote where the judge's vote carries no more weight than anyone else (handler) in the cast. In other words, you must have a majority of the cast vote to: 1, 2, 3.

Q: What are those three specific situations? And go......!!!

1.
2.
3.




I know there are several experts on here who will be quick to spit out those three, so I'm going to ask Jim, Joey, and Bill Harper to relax a bit and give it a day or two before you give those three we're looking for. Sorry, some are just too good to play this game and others are copying your answers. lol.


Posted by Allen / UKC on 06-14-2018 05:33 PM:

Help is here!

https://www.ukcdogs.com/docs/huntin...d-scorecard.pdf


Posted by yadkintar on 06-14-2018 05:57 PM:

Ooooooo I am going to enjoy this one lol.




Tar


Posted by Allen / UKC on 06-14-2018 06:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Ooooooo I am going to enjoy this one lol.




Tar



Where's your three Tar?


Posted by rooster731 on 06-14-2018 06:13 PM:

Scoring tree, calling timeout, questioning a call


Posted by Allen / UKC on 06-14-2018 06:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rooster731
Scoring tree, calling timeout, questioning a call


Finally...... Seems like everyone is "chicken", 'cept for rooster.


Posted by yadkintar on 06-14-2018 06:23 PM:

Secret agent #1 told me I can't play no more I cause to much controversy lol.



Tar


Posted by T Felderman on 06-14-2018 06:28 PM:

A cast vote should be able to over turn a non-hunting judges decision when scoring a tree! For example, when the non-hunting judge sees a coon further up the tree. Or when the non-hunting judge circles a blatant slick.


Posted by Donnie Stevens on 06-14-2018 06:30 PM:

Scoring a tree... calling timeout... dogs returning to previously scored tree

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-14-2018 06:37 PM:

I just love open book tests. Mr Stevens, are you real sharp or can you just read and comprehend real good?


Posted by Dogwhisper on 06-14-2018 06:44 PM:

I see 4....
1.3(a)(2)
2.4(g)
3.5(h)
4. Time outs.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-14-2018 06:49 PM:

Using rule #'s isn't fair. No one knows what your answers are. But your 1 and 2 are the same.


Posted by Dogwhisper on 06-14-2018 06:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Using rule #'s isn't fair. No one knows what your answers are. But your 1 and 2 are the same.

I'm not long winded like sum on here !


Posted by Donnie Stevens on 06-14-2018 07:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I just love open book tests. Mr Stevens, are you real sharp or can you just read and comprehend real good?


Neither. I PM'd Joey and asked him lol

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Posted by Philip Foster on 06-14-2018 07:15 PM:

MR Stevens answers are spot on . Totally agree sir


Posted by HERSHSHUNTIN on 06-15-2018 02:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Stevens
Scoring a tree... calling timeout... dogs returning to previously scored tree



Xs 2
all other situations are made by the judge, but if questioned at the time of ruling it goes to a vote by cast members

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-15-2018 02:41 PM:

Donnie, what about whether a dog is in a hole or not? Rule says cast can proceed to a hole if majority agrees.


Posted by HERSHSHUNTIN on 06-15-2018 03:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Donnie, what about whether a dog is in a hole or not? Rule says cast can proceed to a hole if majority agrees.


Richard, where do you see the words ''majority agrees'' , or did you add them to stir the pot?

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-15-2018 05:37 PM:

Hershell, that is just what I have always gone by. I have never seen a cast proceed to a hole unless a majority of the cast agreed to it or someone treed their dog. I guess that my reading comprehension is not that good. That maybe why I am usually wrong. And thanks for pointing that out.


Posted by yadkintar on 06-15-2018 05:46 PM:

I understand some people don't want their dogs treeing in holes in the dry season here we tree coons in beaver holes I can tell when a dog trees in a hole and I trash break my dogs I am treeing mine for 225+.


Tar


Posted by Donnie Stevens on 06-15-2018 05:52 PM:

I think it's the judges decision if the track ended at a hole but you still need a majority to score the hole.

Tar you ain't talkin this old dog into scoring no bull frog lol

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Posted by yadkintar on 06-15-2018 05:56 PM:

Most of the time theys a heck of a fight going on in there we stop what we are doing and watch the show you got a tuff dog if he can whoop that coon in there lol.



Tar


Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-15-2018 07:01 PM:

Tarbaby, why do they call them "beaver" holes?


Posted by joey on 06-15-2018 11:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Stevens
I think it's the judges decision if the track ended at a hole but you still need a majority to score the hole.

Tar you ain't talkin this old dog into scoring no bull frog lol



I waited a day Allen, your right Donnie its the judges decision to say the track is finished. It can also be a cast vote but it doesn't automatically go to cast vote like the other three things.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 06-16-2018 01:37 AM:

What if the judge says my dog is in a hole let's go to him but the other 3 cast members say that he isn't? Or what if 2 cast members say their dogs are in a hole but 2 say they aren't?


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