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Absolute naturals ?

How many naturals have y’all had that all you ever did was just take them to the woods and they made above average dogs.



Tar

I've had two pups that just started treeing coons the first time or two they went to the woods. Both were decent as grown dogs, but neither finished out as an above average hound.

I have had 2 that started Split treeing by the time they were 6 months old. As a 1.5 year old you couldn’t hunt them with anything else, they were both mean as a rattlesnake and were both just average dogs at best, but were intense tree dogs. They would both run through the woods tight to silent on the ground and ambushed coons. Not my style at all for sure but they were impressive at a very young age.

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I had a walker pup out of Hammering Earl that was running loose in my back yard and at 3 mos old he took himself hunting one night and treed a coon. It was the first time that he had ever seen one. At 3 yrs old he was a very nice hound. In between 3 mos and 3 years, he ran every fox, deer and coyote in 3 states and treed every possum in East Tennessee. He also treed a coon or two in between all of that.

I don't just take 1 to the woods. I generally always lay a couple drags if i raised them from pups . I have had a number pups that are what I consider complete naturals. Ran and treed the 1st drag i ever laid right threw ta making a nice finished dog.
Doesn't mean that they didn't need trained what not to do.

My deacon dog was about 7 months old had never been out of the pen. I just put him in the box one night we cut loose and he was gone the dogs struck I told my buddy we got a strange dog in there he said that’s that pup. I said ain’t no way !! They got treed and boy did he get treed and it was him. Except for very little correction all I ever did was take him hunting.



Tar

I’ve had several at 6 months do pretty good...
But this is a 2 year old dog I gave to my brother as a ten week old pup...he tested very well and I could tell he had a good nose and was calm pup...

My brother didn’t do anything with him and he gave him back to me at two years of age...I put him in the bay pen and he put on a show...the following week I took him to the woods and he struck with his siblings but didn’t pack up...he took his own hog and swam the Brazos River after his hog...the river is fairly wide...the next week they struck and he took his own hog and bayed it...my brother goes to that bay and takes a 200 pound sow and when she goes down he is all over her...

I didn’t like the fact he wouldn’t pack up but eventually he would...I like a dog that can do it alone and also pack up...

I don’t remember him running off game...

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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

My old dog was that way. He ran loose on a farm and started treeing coons by himself at 5 and a half months old. He split from others that were in there hunting he was running loose and he split from their dogs with the coon.

He had treed over 50 coon before he ever saw one.

I will never get another one like that.

I got some pups off him now that I have high hopes for but you know how that goes.

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Let's go huntin

The most natural pup I ever started I started by accident. I had a pup that had just turned 4 months old. My wife said it barked in the pen from the time I pulled out of the driveway until I got back home every night I went hunting. I decided I would take him along and let him follow me so he wouldn't keep my wife awake at night. The first night and the very first drop he treed with the old dogs. I figured he would just be barking at the dogs when I got there, but he was looking straight up the tree and treeing like he had been doing it for years. He had never been shown a caged coon or worked on a drag. It wasn't a one time deal either, he went and made things happen from that night forward. I foolishly sold him young for what I thought was a lot of money at the time. Later I was asked to put him in some nite hunts at about 1.5 years old and he was something else. His registered name was Gr. Nt. Ch. Pierce's Style. Most natural pup I ever seen and made a top hound. No telling what he would have won with a handler that would travel.

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Travis

Man, what I would give to have had that pup, if I could get one like that I would forget about my bad knee and hunt every night. Dave

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Several over the years, all they needed was hunted.. Some minor correction required but not much. 3 were very good dogs the others were just average...

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Originally posted by Travis Brown
His registered name was Gr. Nt. Ch. Pierce's Style. Most natural pup I ever seen and made a top hound.

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Cypress Brake Setum Up Ace ,black and tan, was an absolute natural. He treed coons from the first night on. He is the one dog I regret selling. Jr.Steelman

Absolutely Natural

I know some folks call an absolute natural if it starts out hunting coon and only coon...

I prefer an absolute natural to be a pup that rolls out hunting and the trashier the better...but not take long to learn what game he is to catch...

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Originally posted by Donnie Stevens
Travis was he out of Harry x Little Peg by any chance ?

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Travis Brown
brownt@capetigers.com
573-579-3853
Home of :
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Peggy 4/91-1/02
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Little Peg 6/98-3/08
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Haley 8/02-11/13
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Taylor 3/05-11/17
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Rotten 10/08-2/13
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Midge 12/10-1/21
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Jessie 4/14-
Gr. Nt. Ch. Browns Lilly 5/19-

JR Steelman we bought GrNtCh Setum Up Chance , I wish I had another one like him out of Old Ace!

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Naturals

"Perfect" is her name! She picked me as she would tree bark after I left the pen from feeding them. She did unusual things like climbing out of her pen everyday from 3 weeks on to poop outside and then climb back in with her littermates. At 5 months old Brice and I took Zip hunting and took Perfect along on her first ride. She'd never been hunting. Zip treed at 300 yards across a corn field and it was amusing as Perfect had never seen corn rows and thought the first row of corn was a fence, but she figured it out and on her way to Zip she struck a track and trailed to within 100 feet of Zip, located and treed loud and solid. She had a litter and was telling the World about it! I'ved had a lot of naturals over the years, but never like Perfect.

PHK,Chance was a good one too. He was already started and doing good when Eddie and I got him.
I still remember meeting someone in eastern Alabama and sending Chance to you. Jr.Steelman

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
I had a walker pup out of Hammering Earl that was running loose in my back yard and at 3 mos old he took himself hunting one night and treed a coon. It was the first time that he had ever seen one. At 3 yrs old he was a very nice hound. In between 3 mos and 3 years, he ran every fox, deer and coyote in 3 states and treed every possum in East Tennessee. He also treed a coon or two in between all of that.

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Like most, I've owned or have witnessed several over the years that started at a very young age with little or no assistance at all but in all my years I've only ever owned one that I would call a true natural. My Mountain State Big Bud was that. I hadn't ever fooled with him other than to take him out of the kennel and let him run around the yard. One evening I noticed a coon turning over cow pies in the neighbors field so I thought I'd walk him up to see what he'd do with the scent. Surprising to me, as soon as he cut the track he immediately opened then proceeded up wind and made a circle with his head up. He finally ended up over on the fence row and just sat down on his butt and began to tree with his head straight in the air. When I got to him he was just above the tree with the coon in it. That was all natural, nothing man made. At 6 months old we took him to the woods with the old dog and she made 3 trees, one single, one double and a den and he was up on the side of every one treeing, (not barking because the old dog was, big difference). He just progressed from there, treeing alone with the coon at 8 months and I was hunting him alone regular at 9 months. I never had to run a training collar on him and he never treed a possum in his whole life. He was a natural deep, wide hunter that was not for the faint of heart hunter plus he had the biggest mouth of any hound I ever owned, bar none! He sired several pups but none quite like him. I would definitely label him a true natural.

I’ve just picked up a cur pup that is 3 months old. She is 3/4 Mt Cur and 1/4 walker. This little thing is treeing squirrels already and you have to drag her away from the tree....Never seen anything like it... Lol

JB Cobb...sounds like a good one...

I told a friend of mine that someone was giving away two Mt Cur pups out of squirrel champion bloodlines...I like Mt curs but didn’t have room so I passed up without taking a look at them...

My buddy picks one up and at three months old was baying the hogs in the bay pen like a champion...she didn’t want to get caught she was dodging my buddy...she was good looking on top of that...she was out striking the old dogs at 6 months...I could of had her for free...that particular friend sees dogs as tools and doesn’t seem to really appreciate above average performance...

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