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Hunt what makes you happy!!

I have been hunting dogs for the public for 5 yrs, I have traveled to a lot of the big $$$$$ hunts from $30 entry’s to $7500 entry’s, I have hunted with the best money can buy, I have hunted with the biggest names in the business, and have had a good time with these people and these dogs, I don’t have to like their dogs and they don’t have to like mine!! They feed and water theirs and I feed and water mine!!
As long as your happy with your dog it doesn’t matter what others may think. I have found that in this business a lot of people’s hate is fueled by jealousy!! I’m not leaving myself out of this category, jealously is a feeling everyone has weather or not your man/woman enough to admit it or not is depends on where your at in life.
Some like a open mouth dog, some like a silent mouth dog, some like a chop mouth track dog and some like a bawl mouth tree dog, some like a trailing cold nose dog and some like a hot nose ambush style dog. Some like a big hunting dog and some like a dog that hunts and checks back in.
Point of this is EVERYONE LIKES WHAT THEY LIKE!! Don’t push what you like on someone else. Let them like what they like and you hunt what you like!!

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jason

But when you go to hunts your have to hunt with what you don’t like so some choose not to go. I myself am not jealous I could and have gone to hunts and set on the tailgate and listen to a good cast of dogs put on a coon treeing clinic and none of them belong to me I enjoy good dog work.



Tar

When you go to a restaurant you see Food you don’t like too but you order what you like and the person your with gets what they like, when it’s over you get up and leave!!
Their food sets on their stomach and yours sits on yours!!
You don’t have to hunt in the hunts, you don’t have to go. But just because tar doesn’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not a good one and just because he does doesn’t make it a good one either!! The world doesn’t revolve around your likes or mine either!!

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jason

This is interesting because for me it's always been the other way around, never satisfied with my dogs and always thinking the other guys dog was better than mine. Sell mine buy theirs and figure out the one I had was better. Never was very bright.

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
This is interesting because for me it's always been the other way around, never satisfied with my dogs and always thinking the other guys dog was better than mine. Sell mine buy theirs and figure out the one I had was better. Never was very bright.

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jason

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Originally posted by ole hoss
When you go to a restaurant you see Food you don’t like too but you order what you like and the person your with gets what they like, when it’s over you get up and leave!!
Their food sets on their stomach and yours sits on yours!!
You don’t have to hunt in the hunts, you don’t have to go. But just because tar doesn’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not a good one and just because he does doesn’t make it a good one either!! The world doesn’t revolve around your likes or mine either!!

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Now Jason you know there are just some dogs you would just soon not draw because they are a pain to hunt with. I don’t get paid to go like you so your right I don’t have to go. Far as what I like as long as they are treeing coons I will like anybody’s dog. If they got to beating me bad back in the day I would try and own them or at least breed to them.


I ain’t telling you I like mine either.


I know what a good one looks like.


Tar

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jason

Well I got to agree with you but I have the ability to enjoy anybody’s dog. I just like good dog work. I don’t have anything near what I call a coondog they just tree coons. I will hunt all night with a top notch dog that belongs to sombody I don’t know and have a blast.



Tar

Seems to me if a person is gonna competition hunt , he doesn’t have to like another mans dog . He just has to beat him. Don’t know ole hoss on a personal level, but I believe his attitude towards what it takes to make a dog that wins , an should I say a coon dog sets well with me. There is no replacement for the hours spent preparing a hunting dog to do what it’s bred to do. To me that’s happiness.

Some people just like the type of dog they have. If they have a silent dog, then that is what they like. Instead of trying to change the dog to suit themselves, they change their likes to suit the dog.

I just don’t put the time and effort into having better than what I got. Kinda like the topic I put on coonhunting conversations.


Do you still like to say your a coonhunter but really don’t know if you still want to be one.



Tar

Re: Hunt what makes you happy!!

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Originally posted by ole hoss
I have been hunting dogs for the public for 5 yrs, I have traveled to a lot of the big $$$$$ hunts from $30 entry’s to $7500 entry’s, I have hunted with the best money can buy, I have hunted with the biggest names in the business, and have had a good time with these people and these dogs, I don’t have to like their dogs and they don’t have to like mine!! They feed and water theirs and I feed and water mine!!
As long as your happy with your dog it doesn’t matter what others may think. I have found that in this business a lot of people’s hate is fueled by jealousy!! I’m not leaving myself out of this category, jealously is a feeling everyone has weather or not your man/woman enough to admit it or not is depends on where your at in life.
Some like a open mouth dog, some like a silent mouth dog, some like a chop mouth track dog and some like a bawl mouth tree dog, some like a trailing cold nose dog and some like a hot nose ambush style dog. Some like a big hunting dog and some like a dog that hunts and checks back in.
Point of this is EVERYONE LIKES WHAT THEY LIKE!! Don’t push what you like on someone else. Let them like what they like and you hunt what you like!!

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I absolutely agree with what you're saying. BUT, don't you think that if a person is gonna go to hunts and compete at a high level, it almost forces them to hunt a type of dog they may not enjoy hunting?

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Originally posted by Cory Highfill
I absolutely agree with what you're saying. BUT, don't you think that if a person is gonna go to hunts and compete at a high level, it almost forces them to hunt a type of dog they may not enjoy hunting?

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Ole Hoss

As long as your happy with your dog it doesn’t matter what others may think. I have found that in this business a lot of people’s hate is fueled by jealousy!! I’m not leaving myself out of this category, jealously is a feeling everyone has weather or not your man/woman enough to admit it or not is depends on where your at in life.
Some like a open mouth dog, some like a silent mouth dog, some like a chop mouth track dog and some like a bawl mouth tree dog, some like a trailing cold nose dog and some like a hot nose ambush style dog. Some like a big hunting dog and some like a dog that hunts and checks back in.
Point of this is EVERYONE LIKES WHAT THEY LIKE!! Don’t push what you like on someone else. Let them like what they like and you hunt what you like!!

Very Well said and a lot of us could learn from this.

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Rick

It isn't really the style of dog that people hate and jealousy has nothing to do with it. A lot of coon hunters want to hunt in competition hunts but they either can't or just don't want to run through the woods 3-5 miles in 2 hrs going from tree to tree. So they don't get to competition hunt and that is what they hate. When you hunt that style of dog you are effectively eliminating them from the world of big time competition coonhunting.. That is why they hate that style of dog and complain about them so much. Old Deep and Alone has forced them out of the world of competition coonhunting. Maybe that is one reason that the numbers are dwindling and the only ones left are the deep and alone dogs. People wonder why there are still a lot of pleasure hunters but they don't show up at comp hunts. Maybe that is the reason. Comp hunts aren't fun any more. You have to be a marathon runner to compete.

Hunt what makes you happy but don't force another man to try to keep up with what makes you happy.

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
It isn't really the style of dog that people hate and jealousy has nothing to do with it. A lot of coon hunters want to hunt in competition hunts but they either can't or just don't want to run through the woods 3-5 miles in 2 hrs going from tree to tree. So they don't get to competition hunt and that is what they hate. When you hunt that style of dog you are effectively eliminating them from the world of big time competition coonhunting.. That is why they hate that style of dog and complain about them so much. Old Deep and Alone has forced them out of the world of competition coonhunting. Maybe that is one reason that the numbers are dwindling and the only ones left are the deep and alone dogs. People wonder why there are still a lot of pleasure hunters but they don't show up at comp hunts. Maybe that is the reason. Comp hunts aren't fun any more. You have to be a marathon runner to compete.

Hunt what makes you happy but don't force another man to try to keep up with what makes you happy.

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You are correct Hoss. The biggest down fall and reasons many bad decisions are made in this sport, are because of jealously.

I have tried very hard to replace jealously in my heart with respect.
I try not to be jealous of what someone wins, but respect their desire and the dog.
I try not be be jealous of how much someone can hunt. But respect them pounding the woods night after night.

I will say that when I watch some of your videos that I am jealous of what looks like good hunting land that is easy to get around in. But I have been around a long time and I know that you have been through some Hell Holes following those hounds. I respect that and respect you sharing what you are dong with other.

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When a man/woman walks away from the cast in a bad frame of mind, it's usually more person related than dog related.

And, the "deep and lonely's" killing hunts? You do realize "they" say the same things about those cover dog babblers...right?

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Originally posted by Adam Wingler
When a man/woman walks away from the cast in a bad frame of mind, it's usually more person related than dog related.

And, the "deep and lonely's" killing hunts? You do realize "they" say the same things about those cover dog babblers...right?

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Us old guys aint big dummys either who you think invented this stuff the young guys are pullen? A babbling cover me dog is at least competing against the other dogs. A babbling deep and alone dog ain’t competing against nothing but the clock.


Get four of ole babbling deep and alone cover late get ate on the same cast you got .................. oh wait that’s a final four of a major $$$$ hunt lol



Tar

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Originally posted by Adam Wingler
So...you don't compete because you created the dog you don't like to compete against?

I'm not sure anyone likes a babbler, even the guy winning with one.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Us old guys aint big dummys either who you think invented this stuff the young guys are pullen? A babbling cover me dog is at least competing against the other dogs. A babbling deep and alone dog ain’t competing against nothing but the clock.


Get four of ole babbling deep and alone cover late get ate on the same cast you got .................. oh wait that’s a final four of a major $$$$ hunt lol



Tar

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I will give my take on it. I have always been and always will be a ukc supporter because I come from a time when that is all we had. Now not to sound selfish but the rules we are wanting are pretty much the rules of a kc that’s 30 miles from me but for one reason or anouther that kc has shot itself in the foot. So to put on a hunt here the guys have told me the hunt director needs to be able to hunt , tree countdown , and no leash lock , they want one hour double header mini slams. The rest of the rule changes they can care less about. It’s my understanding that the slam events ukc can change them with out the breed reps that might be the way they need to go. Now far as the money men in the sport most don’t even hunt they just need a write off and spare no expense win , loose , or draw. A working guy cannot compete with that those big players are at every hunt and there is a bunch of them so when ukc hands out the big checks they are going to be there. But take the minie slams make it a race give a little local guy a chance by supporting the small clubs a chance take the top 10 of each state. I mean ukc makes their money off that guy all year unlike the paid handlers that just show up at the big dance and then get on here and tell us all about dat lol. Bottom line I know what the young folks want they are paying the bills. But I think there is somthing for us older guys too !! The one hour minie slams.


Sorry for my rambling.

Tar

Thanks for the great insight tar.
It sounds to me like A be careful what you wish for kinda thing.