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Posted by VA BLACKDAWG on 07-03-2012 05:59 PM:

Corn Allergy ......

I read a lot on here bout some dogs being allergic to CORN in their feed.My question is.....How do you know? What symptoms do you see if any?THANKS.

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Posted by pegjerben on 07-03-2012 06:07 PM:

with mine it was constant licking on his feet and other areas. I was told by a reliable vet to take him off all feed and give him stricly cooked meat (luckily we had a freezer full of deer scraps) for a month and then slowly add food back in. I could tell after a couple of weeks - I got lazy and just gave him dry food like the rest for a couple of days and the licking started again immediately. We haven't ever decided if it is a wheat or corn allergy, but he gets dry food now with neither - no more itching

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Posted by bigdaddy74 on 07-03-2012 06:16 PM:

corn

Mine- Hair was falling out on the legs. I thought it was something else but the vet did some test and determine it was the feed. changed feed and within 2 weeks 100% improvement


Posted by Cynthia on 07-03-2012 06:34 PM:

constant ear infections. get it clear and it returns

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Posted by toe cutter on 07-03-2012 07:32 PM:

kinda funny how ALL the best dogs from back 20 yrs ago ate corn based feed.
seems anymore corn based feed is an excuse for any ailment or short comming faults a dog has.
just think how much better them old dogs would of been with some of the yuppy new dog foods in thier bellies.

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Posted by Cynthia on 07-03-2012 07:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by toe cutter
kinda funny how ALL the best dogs from back 20 yrs ago ate corn based feed.
seems anymore corn based feed is an excuse for any ailment or short comming faults a dog has.
just think how much better them old dogs would of been with some of the yuppy new dog foods in thier bellies.



maybe its because of all the "stuff" that is put on corn "these days" that is different and what is causing the problems.

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Posted by MTCoonHunter on 07-03-2012 08:59 PM:

I don't know what shortcomings a dog has that people blame on corn--unless a person who is feeding their dog rice cakes and corn on the cob and then blames the dog's lack of energy on the corn...

I'd put money down that there were dogs 20 years ago that had frequent ear infections and licked their paws obsessively--so I guess those would be considered ailments. Great deal that something as simple as removing corn (or any other allergen) can prevent years of cleaning muck out of their ears or trying to treat the infections from the open sores on the dog's paws.

Hard to keep a limping/deaf dog in the woods.


Posted by toe cutter on 07-03-2012 09:39 PM:

people on this board blame everything from a dog not treeing to running trash on dog foods.
*any dog with allergies should not be bred.
so many people listen to a vet that dont know nothing but house dogs and dealing with people who will put $5000 in a house cat to save its life.

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Posted by J.R on 07-03-2012 10:27 PM:

well mine got hot spots, so i quit feeding corn and havent had them since. so take that for what its worth, i know if i could feed cheap ass food i would .


Posted by Glenn Wells on 07-03-2012 11:48 PM:

I have one that will eat corn right off the cob , the sucker will bring them to you to shell for him while he crunches away. I really think the diffence today is that they have cut down on the fat content in the feed, 20 years ago it was greasy and you could see it coming through the bag after a little time. Just add a little bacon grease every so often and you can see the difference in skin and coat both !

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Posted by toe cutter on 07-04-2012 12:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by J.R
well mine got hot spots, so i quit feeding corn and havent had them since. so take that for what its worth, i know if i could feed cheap ass food i would .


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Hot Spots on Dogs! Just What Are These, Anyway?

*Hot Spots are one of those less then desirable skin irritations seen in pets. Often, you'll here your vet refer to them as moist eczema, but you ... well, you can call them hot spots. They occur when your dog itches, scratches or licks him or herself excessively, eventually forming a wet scab on the fur. But what do you with a hot spot?
Hot Spots (also known as Summer Sores or Moist Eczema) can seemingly appear spontaneously anywhere on a dog's body; the surrounding area can rapidly deterioriate too. This moist, raw skin disorder has a variety of causes but the most consistent factor is bacteria.
Anything that irritates or breaks the skin can create the environment for bacterial contamination if the surface of the skin has but only a little a bit of moisture on it. Such incidences of moisture can be such seeminly innocuous things such as as a recent bath, swim, stroll in the rain, or playtime in wet craze. Even a slightly oozing sore can provide enough moisture and/or nutrient for a bacterial infection to take hold.
Although there are various types of "hot spot"-causing bacteria, most respond to oral and topical antibiotics.

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Posted by englishbuddy on 07-04-2012 01:02 AM:

Nt Ch Main Street Holmes has acute bronchial allergies and a low thyroid level..... He would lose his voice and could not breath... We took him off corn feed and put him on medication for the allergie and he does fine...... He would refuse to hunt in a corn field once the ears got half full...... He is owned by a pleasure hunter now and gets hunted in the fall and winter and does okay.... This was a shame Holmes was as natural as they get..... Someone that had him before me had broken 2 vertibra and of his ribs tryin to get him to hunt and he just COULD NOT GO !!!!! He has a good home now !!!!!!


Posted by toe cutter on 07-04-2012 01:08 AM:

but every one blames the corn

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Causes of Allergies in Dogs

Most allergies in domestic dogs are exaggerated immune (hypersensitivity) reactions to flea or tick bites, contact or airborne substances or some particular ingredient in food. Allergies to fleas, which are extremely common in dogs, are caused by an immune reaction to flea saliva which causes irritation and itchiness at the site of the bite, increasing the risk of bacterial infection and localized hair loss. Common contact and inhalant allergens include seasonal pollen, trees, bushes, grasses, weeds and flowers, as well as any number of chemical or other products. These allergies, in dogs and people, are often referred to as “hay fever.” Food allergies can be a reaction to almost anything in a dog’s diet, but common food allergens include beef, dairy products, corn, wheat, eggs, chicken, lamb and soy.

Preventing Allergies in Dogs

The best way to prevent allergic reactions in domestic dogs is to prevent contact with whatever is causing the hypersensitivity. For example, flea bite allergies are best avoided by removing the allergen – fleas – from the dog’s environment. There are a number of good topical products to keep fleas off of our pets, including medicated collars and topical liquid treatments and preventatives, among others. To prevent hay fever, owners should keep their dogs away from whatever seasonal allergen is causing the problem, to the extent that they can. Food allergies can be prevented once the causative component of the dog’s diet is identified, which can be done through an elimination diet supervised by a veterinarian. Many commercial kibbles containing novel protein sources, such as venison, duck or fish, are available for dogs that are allergic to more common protein sources.

Flea Allergies

Allergic reactions to flea bites are very common in companion animals. Affected dogs have an immune reaction to the flea saliva, causing irritation and itchiness at the bite site with an increased chance of hair loss and secondary bacterial infection. As with all causes of allergies, flea bite allergies are best prevented by removing the allergen – here, the flea – from the dog’s environment. There are a number of good topical products to keep fleas off of our pets, including collars, liquid medications that are put onto the skin and other products that your veterinarian can recommend. With regular management, flea bite allergies are quite preventable.

Hay Fever

Dogs can develop allergies to seasonal pollen, trees, bushes, grass or flowers. In people, we call this “hay fever,” and the clinical signs are similar in dogs. Sneezing, redness of the eyes, itchiness and lethargy are common signs of seasonal allergies. Again, the best way to prevent these allergies is to prevent your dog’s exposure to the causative allergen. Your veterinarian can help you identify which particular things your dog is allergic to.

Food Allergies

Dogs also commonly develop allergies to components of their food – especially in commercially available kibble diets. Food allergies can present with vomiting, skin rashes or other skin lesions, and pruritus (intense itchiness). The way to “prevent” (or manage) these reactions is to use an elimination diet, which your veterinarian can explain to you in detail. Essentially, an elimination diet involves strictly regulating your dog’s diet, usually starting with boiled rice and chicken, and then adding other ingredients one at a time and assessing whether the dog has an adverse reaction to the new ingredient. There are a number of commercially available kibble diets that have unique ingredients (like duck, venison, sweet potatoes, etc.) which can successfully be fed to dogs with allergies to more common protein sources, such as beef, lamb or pork.

Special Notes

Canine allergies can be difficult, but not impossible, to diagnose and manage. Veterinarians use a combination of a thorough medical history, a complete physical examination, blood and/or skin tests and assessment of the dog’s response to treatment to identify and manage allergic reactions. Strict owner compliance with the diagnostic and treatment protocols recommended by their veterinarian is critical to the success of managing allergies.

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Posted by headless01 on 07-04-2012 01:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by toe cutter
people on this board blame everything from a dog not treeing to running trash on dog foods.
*any dog with allergies should not be bred.
so many people listen to a vet that dont know nothing but house dogs and dealing with people who will put $5000 in a house cat to save its life.



Smart man right here, may be its the stuff they put in the meat now thats not natural.


Posted by micooner on 07-04-2012 02:12 AM:

Lets see 20 years ago you could still send pb&j sandwiches too school without fear of setting some kid into an allergic reaction. LOL

A cell phone weighed a couple of pounds if you had one.

Still had a lot of smokers.

What was a gps?? How about the internet?

A walker dog could still track AND tree and a coon would be up there. Just kidding on that one. Feed whatever works for your dog thats all there is too it. JMHO


Posted by Randy Tallon on 07-04-2012 01:41 PM:

Bobby - 20 years ago ( I used 20 years from the statement above..) I fought constant battles with my dogs having hot spots especially in the warmer weather. Actually, its more like almost 40 years ago when I started working with military working dogs. I fought hot spots (and head shaking with some) with dogs until I changed my feed approx. 6 years ago. I feed a grain free diet. I don't have hot spots and head shaking anymore. I have had coon dogs for 35 years and police working dogs since the mid '70's. I had trouble with both. Went through tons of steroidal type meds and antibiotics. You can listen to all the educated idiots you want. My experience comes through years of trial and error and EXPERIENCE not a book. Black dogs (B&T's, Dobermans, Rottweillers...I have had them all) seem to be especially susceptable to these type of skin issues. Predisone is one of the major treatments by vets for this issue. It is not easy on a dog's liver and kidneys. Since I have changed to an non grain diet I have not had one of these type of issues.

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Posted by umbie on 07-04-2012 01:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by J.R
well mine got hot spots, so i quit feeding corn and havent had them since. so take that for what its worth, i know if i could feed cheap ass food i would .



Same here hot spots itching I don't feed corn and now no more itching and hot spots

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