UKC Forums Pages (2): [1] 2 »
Show all 48 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win ! (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928527661)


Posted by Olrebel on 02-24-2020 06:41 PM:

I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win !

I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win !

Whats the difference?


Posted by Trueblood85 on 02-24-2020 10:37 PM:

1 is equivalent to a thief and 1 earns the things they recieve.

1 is a liar and a crook the other has honesty and integrity.

A cheater expects something for nothing and should be removed from the gene pool before those traits can be passed on.

Just my opinion though


Posted by Dave Richards on 02-24-2020 10:54 PM:

Differences

If you don't know the difference between the 2, you most likely were cheating. Dave

__________________
Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses


Posted by Cotton 1927 on 02-24-2020 11:18 PM:

Cheating

If you had to think about it ,you were cheating!


Posted by shadinc on 02-25-2020 12:16 AM:

Re: I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win !

quote:
Originally posted by Olrebel
I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win !

Whats the difference?

That's exactly how a cheater thinks.

__________________
Donald Bergeron


Posted by Olrebel on 02-25-2020 08:44 PM:

So was Sambos handler cheating or trying to win?

Was the guy at the winter classic cheating or trying to win?

If you strike your dog on its first bark even tho your not sure what its running are you cheating or trying to win?

If you tree your dog quick before your 100% sure it will stay are you cheating or just trying to win ?


Posted by novicane65 on 02-25-2020 11:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Olrebel
So was Sambos handler cheating or trying to win?

Was the guy at the winter classic cheating or trying to win?

If you strike your dog on its first bark even tho your not sure what its running are you cheating or trying to win?

If you tree your dog quick before your 100% sure it will stay are you cheating or just trying to win ?



Sambo's handler cheated, he broke the rules. But Sambo didn't cheat.

News to me about the winter classic deal.

Striking your dog on its first bark isn't cheating. The rule says "on or before it's 3rd bark".

Treeing your dog before its treed is pitching, and I think it's a gray area. Reason being if it leaves then you take minus, if it stays then it could get plus points but a gamble doing this. Its partly cheating but not really, unless your dog is still very much running and you tried to pitch your dog onto a tree before it was even close.

__________________
Eric DePue
Hill Country Kennels Itty-Bitty
PKC CH Wax's Late Night Boom
And
Partners on a few common trashy young dogs

Gone but not forgotten

GrNtCh, PKC Ch Hillbilly Bildo
Pr Broken Oaks Wild Blue Gypsy


Posted by Mark V. on 02-26-2020 02:19 AM:

So what happen at W C ?


Posted by tubby1111 on 02-26-2020 03:32 PM:

whats the sambo story


Posted by shadinc on 02-26-2020 04:28 PM:

Everyone should try as hard as they can to win....Within the rules.

__________________
Donald Bergeron


Posted by ole hoss on 02-26-2020 10:35 PM:

It’s only cheating if you get caught

__________________
jason


Posted by Sfox91 on 02-26-2020 10:55 PM:

If you’ve ever been “cheated” it’s your own fault for not knowing the rules, or not standing up for yourself.

__________________
Sam fox
PKC, the place to be.


Posted by novicane65 on 02-27-2020 12:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sfox91
If you’ve ever been “cheated” it’s your own fault for not knowing the rules, or not standing up for yourself.



Nope, just ask around. It's never their fault on any of it. And they won't admit they're leading a sorry dog either.

__________________
Eric DePue
Hill Country Kennels Itty-Bitty
PKC CH Wax's Late Night Boom
And
Partners on a few common trashy young dogs

Gone but not forgotten

GrNtCh, PKC Ch Hillbilly Bildo
Pr Broken Oaks Wild Blue Gypsy


Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-27-2020 12:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sfox91
If you’ve ever been “cheated” it’s your own fault....


.....Oh my goodness....


Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-27-2020 12:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ole hoss
....It’s only cheating if you get caught.....


....


Posted by yadkintar on 02-27-2020 01:16 AM:

Cheating hall of famers

It’s an easy fix !! Run a fancy add in the book expressing your heartfelt apology and one on here. Pay a fine. And poof everything is ok and you are forgiven and can then again spend thousands on on hunts again.



Tar


Posted by Dave Richards on 02-27-2020 01:56 AM:

Cheating

Anyone who has to cheat to win any hunt is messed up in more ways than one. What satisfaction can anyone get winning anything by cheating? It's just a hunt win lose or draw and go to the next one, but do it honestly. Dave

__________________
Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses


Posted by Olrebel on 02-27-2020 02:00 AM:

What if you speed going too or driving back to a club to meet the deadline when everyone else drove leagally is that cheating or just trying to win ?

What if the weather is terrible and you go to a hunt hoping to be the only one show up is that cheating or just trying to win ?


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 02-27-2020 12:50 PM:

.

You can fall into this pit if you're trying to win with a dog trying to loose.

Most people are not cheated till they they tell their friends how the cast went and they are asked so many questions they get confused. Which is easy because they didn't know the rules to begin with. Put on your big boy pants. Nobody said it was going to be easy.

Everybody is a potential cast winner till the dogs are unsnapped. Each coon treed means someones dream is slipping away. There is no waking up from this bad dream. So excuses on why you are being cheated start to come into focus. You should be examining the excuses you had last week for not hunting and training your dog and reading the rules. But wait, it's too late to win this week. But that don't matter. I got cheated. YOU DID. You cheated yourself out of winning a coonhunt and you cheated the rest of the cast our of having a good time. Because of your complaining.

__________________
www.ConkeysOutdoors.com
"Boss Lights"


Posted by yadkintar on 02-27-2020 12:53 PM:

Bruce

I would have to get a better dog than what I got to even have a chance to cheat lol.


Tar


Posted by Olrebel on 02-27-2020 01:38 PM:

What if you enter a hunt with what you know is a sorry dog that could not tree a coon on its own just hoping to get lucky and win is that cheating or just trying to win?


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 02-27-2020 02:26 PM:

.

I have actually done that. The entering of the hunt had no intention or thought of winning. It was to fill the hint and have two three dog cast. At the end of the hunt me and another dog was tied. Both had zero. I won the coin toss. I was donating my money to help out a club. Sure didnt feel like cheating to me.
You have amused me with a couple of your questions. But if your serious and believe what you worte. I suggest you attend more hunts. If you have attended a lot of them. Then I sugesst you attend some in a different area.

__________________
www.ConkeysOutdoors.com
"Boss Lights"


Posted by jkidd1 on 02-27-2020 02:34 PM:

IMO what's worse than drawing 3 cheaters is one who thinks they're being cheated. Also all this doom and gloom, I'm sry if some of y'all deal with that but I got to I'd say I go to more hunts than the average hunter, I participate in different registries and I just don't see all this bad, out for blood, win at all cost outlaws every one on here sees. It's talked about so much that now most just have their cheating story ready after every cast, because most think that's the only d@mn way you can loose!!!! Just remember, every 4 dog cast is gona have at least 3 losers, every time.

__________________
AFTER DARK KENNELS

JEREMY KIDD
765-520-1552


*females*
GRNITECH' JR'S JANEY
(Xjr X Insane Jane)

GRNITECH ST. JOHN'S STYLISH REX
(Ol south stylish Rebel X Janey)

GRNITECH' AFTER DARK'S JAN-IT
(Sweat It X Janey)

DUAL GRNITE' LONETREE LEGEND (R.I.P.)
(Noct. Style X Southern Sky)

GRNITECH' STYLISH LITTLE PEG(R.I.P.)
(Trackman X Browns Little Peg)

GRNITECH 'PR' JANEY'S GOTTA GUN
(Wild Card X Jr's Janey)

NITECH ‘PR’ REBELS STYLISH MOJA
(Ol Souths Stylish Rebel X Janey)

AFTER DARK’S PURDY PENNY
(Big $$ X Janit)

NITECH' SEVEN MILE SLOOPY(R.I.P.)
(Skipper x Big time Trixie)

Proud UNION JOURNEYMAN LINEMAN
https://i.postimg.cc/654pWfzm/IMG-1920.png
I.B.E.W. LOCAL 1393


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 02-27-2020 02:54 PM:

.

I agree Jeremy.

__________________
www.ConkeysOutdoors.com
"Boss Lights"


Posted by shadinc on 02-27-2020 02:59 PM:

Re: I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win !

quote:
Originally posted by Olrebel
I wasnt cheating ! I was just trying to win !

Whats the difference?

Sometimes I wonder if some people know the difference.

__________________
Donald Bergeron


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:20 PM. Pages (2): [1] 2 »
Show all 48 posts from this thread on one page

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.3.0
Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000 - 2002.
Copyright 2003-2020, United Kennel Club