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How often to shoot a coon

I'm sure this has been asked before and I know the generic answer is going to be "depends on the dog". But how often do you think that a dogs needs a coon shot out to him to operate correctly?

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Re: How often to shoot a coon

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Originally posted by gpent24
I'm sure this has been asked before and I know the generic answer is going to be "depends on the dog". But how often do you think that a dogs needs a coon shot out to him to operate correctly?

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Depends on the dog.

If your dog trees possums how many possums do you have to shoot to keep your dog treeing possums?

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I guess I am old and traditional I when hunting a dog alone put out 1 a night it makes my dog happy and me happy and still have lots of coons.



Tar

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Good question. I used to think they were better when I gave them coons. I know now that was only in my head. I havent shot out a coon since January. I hunt 5-7 nights a week and they act better when I just pet them up and send them on. Wildwilly has some good thoughts on it

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Originally posted by 2nd Mac
That’s ok if you just hunt twice a year. If I killed one a night it wouldn’t take long til I couldn’t strike one.

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If I've left 10 coon in trees my dog treed, its because I didn't see them. I don't hunt near as hard as I used to. But back when I was hunting every night I was shooting out 3 or 4 coon a night from the same 5 or 6 different places (all public ground). Never had an issue of running out of coon. It all depends on the dog power at the end of your leash.

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kinda gotta agree with Tar. with the price of coon hides now we are seeing an abundance of coon. dang few folks around here hunt now and even fewer trappers.

a few years ago Lloyd Fox of the KS Fish and Game done a study on coon populations.. . had 135 coon with radio collars on them. made a few hunts with him as did Glenn Bliss and others. the study showed that hunters MIGHT tree 10% Trappers about the same.. when the population gets to a certain level( he had figures per square Mile-- I forget how many) anyway they almost always get distemper and die off.. he figured only 10% would survive that..

I know this about 6 miles from me a farmer was having coon get in his cow feed. I took 3 live traps down there and in just 21/2 weeks caught 31 of his coon..great training material . LOL!
I caught 10 more behind my chicken house..
with coon like we are seeing 1 per night will not hurt much.
I do not believe however that when a hound gets fully broke that they need many coon.
so again it would depend on the area you live in. where I have hunted in some states 1 per night will be a bit excessive.

The question was not how many we like to shoot out but how many dogs need shot out to them. Answer not very many

Every one you tree in hide season.. One or two a month in summer for an old dog if you are hunting him hard.. one or two a week for a young dog.. My .02 worth anyways..

I have not shot any out to the young dog i am currently hunting since February. When season was open I was shooting plenty down to him. He is doing a better job than when I was shooting them down to him. It's not very often I seen a big improvement because I shot a coon out and if I did after a few coon it's either fixed or i need a new dog. Just my opinion

Generally I kill one every couple weeks or so. I want to have a big coon population around the house and at times it gets scarce. Also it does depend on the dog. If I'm starting a pup I kill every one they tree. Anything more than a started pup get one from once a week to once a month. Its more about shooting the "right" coons vs shooting ALL coons.

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hunting instinct

If the dog loves to tree and get praise from owner , you never have to shoot a coon out to the dog. I have one , redbone with outlaw & moonlight breeding. She is 3 years old , showed her a live trapped coon 2 times. I released a coon for her to find one time. That is all it took to get her started. In three years of hunting I have never shot a coon out to her. Legally I can not carry a gun and that is why I have never shot a coon out to my hound. I only hunt her alone. If you have a hound that loves to run track and is not really fired up to sit at tree and bark until you get there , shooting out coon is the only way to train the hound to stay put until you get there.

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Def depends on the dog.Too many when young they can get 'tree happy'

Knocked a bunch out to my female when starting.She hated coons, and lived for the 'reward' even when she got old.Clover dog,and had more track than tree so knocking coons out helped.Very accurate too.
Once she was 'finished' one a night to keep her happy.

Now since coons are worth $0 .Even during hide/kill season,1 a night and I leave them unless jumbo.Not carrying them out for $2.00 - $4.00

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2 or 3 a year and the dogs seem ok with that

This is another time where some people want to apply human traits to a dog. This past January I took a 7 month pup to the woods for the first time. She was afraid of the dark and wouldn't leave me. Then she smelled something that caused her to perk up. She trailed about 600 yards and treed a coon. Was she expecting me to shoot the coon? She didn't know what a rifle or a dead coon was. She is a gifted dog. She inherited some of the traits she was bred for. Why would she suddenly stop doing this? She's not thinking," If he don't shoot the coon , I ain't treeing another one. Her sole desire in life is to tree coons. Does a dog have to catch so many cars a week to continue chasing them? By human standards my pup seems to be smart or intelligent. I don't call her that. She's gifted. She won't point birds. She doesn't herd sheep. She does one thing and it's what she was bred to do.

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Tar

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I don’t need blue bell cookies and cream ice cream every night but I want it and I am going to eat it because I can.


Tar

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Originally posted by shadinc
BUT, if you couldn't get it you would still press your nose on the freezer door and growl for it. LOL

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Originally posted by shadinc
This is another time where some people want to apply human traits to a dog. This past January I took a 7 month pup to the woods for the first time. She was afraid of the dark and wouldn't leave me. Then she smelled something that caused her to perk up. She trailed about 600 yards and treed a coon. Was she expecting me to shoot the coon? She didn't know what a rifle or a dead coon was. She is a gifted dog. She inherited some of the traits she was bred for. Why would she suddenly stop doing this? She's not thinking," If he don't shoot the coon , I ain't treeing another one. Her sole desire in life is to tree coons. Does a dog have to catch so many cars a week to continue chasing them? By human standards my pup seems to be smart or intelligent. I don't call her that. She's gifted. She won't point birds. She doesn't herd sheep. She does one thing and it's what she was bred to do.

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Killing coon

I kill every one I tree in season. That being said I haven't rolled one out since February..... as of last weekend the junk I'm hunting is now Grand Nite Champion and has enough wins to compete in the Tournament of Champions.... if they have it. She also needs just a few more $$ to finish to Champion in the other registry. I really don't think she has missed chewing on em at all.

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Shooting coons

In my opinion killing coons is way more important to some hunters than it is to the dogs. I know some hunters who rarely kill a coon and I know some hunters that kill coons every night in season. I grew up in thin coon population and was concerned about saving breeding stock, so I am not an advocate of killing a lot of coons. Some of you guys grew up in thick coons and have no issue with killing a lot of coons. Fox hunters never kill the foxes, but that does not bother their dogs from running foxes, same with a lot of different sports, rabbit hunting, bird hunting, etc. The dogs perform regardless of whether you kill the game or not. I know my dogs still tree coons even when I do not shoot them out. I say let your game population decide how many you can kill without impacting the population. Hides are worthless and a dead coon is just that, it serves no good purpose and can never be treed again. Dave

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Originally posted by shadinc
This is another time where some people want to apply human traits to a dog. This past January I took a 7 month pup to the woods for the first time. She was afraid of the dark and wouldn't leave me. Then she smelled something that caused her to perk up. She trailed about 600 yards and treed a coon. Was she expecting me to shoot the coon? She didn't know what a rifle or a dead coon was. She is a gifted dog. She inherited some of the traits she was bred for. Why would she suddenly stop doing this? She's not thinking," If he don't shoot the coon , I ain't treeing another one. Her sole desire in life is to tree coons. Does a dog have to catch so many cars a week to continue chasing them? By human standards my pup seems to be smart or intelligent. I don't call her that. She's gifted. She won't point birds. She doesn't herd sheep. She does one thing and it's what she was bred to do.

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I think it depends on what motivates the dog... if chewing on a coon is it's primary motivation... you better shoot some out.

Most of hopefully have dogs whose primary motivation and drive is to run a track and tree it. If that is the dog you are running... you almost never need to shoot any out to them.