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15. Issue Warning on First Offense. Returning to scored tree.

15. Issue Warning on First Offense.

• D. For dog returning to same tree led away from after scoring. On second offense, dog to receive called strike points minus. On third offense, dog is scratched.



2019 UKC RULE PROPOSAL CLARIFICATIONS AND NOTES
Be advised, the following notes are the opinions/statements of those who submitted the proposals and may or may not necessarily reflect the opinion of UKC.

PROPOSAL 15: This proposal is geared towards being more lenient with scratching handlers when possible. Especially, when it comes to younger or newer inadvertent or unintentional acts by the handler. There’s several sperate items under this proposal that would first issue a warning ion first offense without their dog gaining any advantage by it before resorting to stricter measures for second- and third-time offenders.

Impliment these "baby sitting" rules at the youth level hunts, and keep m there . Not at the full blown adult competition level !

Should it be more strict on NTCH cast than registered casts?

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If we want PKC rules to take over, maybe we should get Roger Dale to buy UKC . Why does it need changing? One good reason? Who is it hurting for the dog to go back to a tree? Its not those loaners everybody talks about. They will never do such a thing.

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I prefer my dog not to do it. Sooner or later they all will do it. What’s it really hurting. A dog is not gaining nothin from it. Burning up hunt time maybe. My dog go on an tree another coon yours can go back as many times it wants to, want bother me one bit.

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Originally posted by Sgraves
I prefer my dog not to do it. Sooner or later they all will do it. What’s it really hurting. A dog is not gaining nothin from it. Burning up hunt time maybe. My dog go on an tree another coon yours can go back as many times it wants to, want bother me one bit.

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I hunt in some pretty rough country. As an example of why I would like to see some kind of rule, I was on a cast one night where a dog got treed with a coon. It was in a very rough hollow. We led her back up on top where we could hear one of the dogs. The dog we could hear was an idiot and never made a tree but he kept it where the other could be cut loose. Long story short she ended up going back 4 times and killed the whole 2 hours on the same coon. We never got to get to where we could hear except the one idiot dog all night. After the hunt we went and got the other 2 off 2 different trees in different hollows.

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Originally posted by stringpopper
I hunt in some pretty rough country. As an example of why I would like to see some kind of rule, I was on a cast one night where a dog got treed with a coon. It was in a very rough hollow. We led her back up on top where we could hear one of the dogs. The dog we could hear was an idiot and never made a tree but he kept it where the other could be cut loose. Long story short she ended up going back 4 times and killed the whole 2 hours on the same coon. We never got to get to where we could hear except the one idiot dog all night. After the hunt we went and got the other 2 off 2 different trees in different hollows.

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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
Great example of dogs killing hunt time. We're out there to coonhunt not go get gather the same dog over and over. This change still gives 2 chances before the dog is scratched on the 3rd.
Rules as of now....
Scratch a dog for things unseen.
Scratch for inadvertantly blowing a squaller.
Scratch for not knowing how to fill a card out even if not qualified to carry it.
Circle possums when dog comes in late.
Award 75 points to dogs that put little effort and come in upto 4.59 on trees.
Walk however far your comfortable to re-cut dogs letting handlers walk out hunts or lead toward dogs that have been doing the work all night.
Let dogs return to the same tree as many times as they want. Lol.

The above are several reasons that change is needed and
needed a long time ago. It has nothing to do with what
everyone else does.
Ukc and several others are doing everything they can to better the registration but too many are set in their ways. Several rules never made sense in the first place.

Allen needs a pen and the ability for executive orders!
For every hunter that may be lost by changes they will pick up many others. The rules of a game should never be complicated. A little common sense goes a long ways, and a few here now are lacking.

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