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Breed Integrity for Pitbulls and Am Staffs..

AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER STANDARDS:

Country of Origin: The American Staffordshire Terrier derived from crossing Bulldogs with an older Terrier line. They are closely related to the American Pit Bull Terrier, from whom they were bred apart in the 1960’s. The American breed was reared largely for illegal dog fighting (the ‘Pit’ in Pit Bull likely derives from fighting pits) in the United States and was recognized as a distinct breed in 1936. American Staffordshire Terriers became popular with ranchers and farmers for protection, companionship, and catching hogs and cattle. Despite its media reputation for ferociousness, the American Staffordshire Terrier is an affectionate dog which has risen to popularity as a pet. The American Staffordshire Terrier’s natural aggression is directed toward other dogs, not humans, and even this can be overcome with training. They often serve as search dogs or police dogs. Popsicle, a drug sniffing American Staffordshire Terrier, became famous for sniffing out and locating one of the largest cocaine busts in the history of the FDA.

Size: The American Staffordshire Terrier has a shoulder height of 40.5-48 cm (16-19 in) and weighs 26-30.5 kg (57-67 lb). American Staffordshire Terriers have highly set, pointy ears which may be cropped, a broad head, wide cheeks, short back and tail (undocked), and wide, straight forelegs. They are very stocky, muscular, and powerful. The American Staffordshire Terrier has round eyes and teeth that form a scissor bite. Unlike the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Staffordshire is not permitted to have Dudley (red) nose leather. The American Staffordshire Terrier has larger bones and head, and is usually shorter.

Coat: The American Staffordshire Terrier has a short, shiny, and stiff coat. Any color is acceptable, however red and beige with highlights, either with or without white highlights, is preferred. Less favored are black and tan, liver, or any color combination that is more than 80 percent white. The American Staffordshire Terrier sheds an average amount.

Character: The American Staffordshire Terrier is loyal, tough on itself, and tenacious. It has a lot of stamina and makes a good watchdog. American Staffordshire Terriers exude strength and agility. They are stubborn and fearless, but very gentle and kind with family.

Temperament: Provided proper socialization has taken place, the American Staffordshire Terrier gets along fine with children and with cats or other household pets. Behavioral training and rearing alongside other pets is important for socialization, otherwise they may be eager to fight other dogs, especially when challenged. They make great home protectors. The American Staffordshire Terrier is usually friendly with strangers when their owners are present. It makes a good family dog as long as the family can handle its boisterousness. It highly desires its owner’s attention and approval.

Care: The American Staffordshire Terrier’s coat should be cared for by removing dead and loose hairs periodically with a rubber brush. American Staffordshire Terriers can live outdoors but prefer indoor life with a family. Be sure to keep the dog attended outdoors due to public perception. American Staffordshire Terriers live 10-12 years and have litters of 5-10 puppies.

Training: The American Staffordshire Terrier must be taught at an early age not to pull on the leash, as it becomes very strong when fully grown. It can learn a great deal if consistently trained. Intense socialization at an early age is important. American Staffordshire Terriers are obedient and have a very strong desire to please their owner. Training should be patient, respectful, and firm.

Activity: The American Staffordshire Terrier needs plenty of exercise. It enjoys running alongside a bicycle or catching a ball or Frisbee. It also enjoys playing fetch. The American Staffordshire Terrier can live in an apartment as long as sufficient attention and exercise is provided.

AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIER STANDARDS:


Country of Origin: The American Pit Bull Terrier (also known as ‘Yankee Terrier’, and closely related to the American Staffordshire Terrier) derived from crossing Bulldogs with an older Terrier line. The American breed was reared largely for illegal dog fighting (the ‘Pit’ in Pit Bull likely derives from fighting pits) in the United States and was recognized as a distinct breed in 1936. American Pit Bull Terriers became popular with ranchers and farmers for protection, companionship, and catching hogs and cattle. Despite its media reputation for ferociousness, the American Pit Bull Terrier is an affectionate dog which has risen to popularity as a pet. The American Pit Bull Terrier’s natural aggression is directed toward other dogs, not humans, and even this can be overcome with training. They often serve as search dogs or police dogs.

Size: The American Pit Bull Terrier has a shoulder height of 46-56 cm (18-22 in) and weighs 22.5-32 kg (50-70 lb). American Pit Bull Terriers have highly set, pointy ears which may be cropped, a broad head, wide cheeks, short back and tail (undocked), and wide, straight forelegs. They are very stocky, muscular, and powerful. The American Pit Bull Terrier has round eyes and teeth that form a scissor bite. Unlike the American Staffordshire Terrier, they are allowed nose leather of any color. The American Pit Bull Terrier is usually taller but with smaller head and bones.

Coat: The American Pit Bull Terrier has a short, shiny, and stiff coat. Any color is acceptable, however red and beige with highlights, either with or without white highlights, is preferred. Less favored are black and tan, liver, or any color combination that is more than 80 percent white. The American Pit Bull Terrier sheds an average amount.

Character: The American Pit Bull Terrier is loyal, tough on itself, and tenacious. It has a lot of stamina and makes a good watchdog. American Pit Bull Terriers exude strength and agility. They are stubborn and fearless, but very gentle and kind with family.

Temperament: Provided proper socialization has taken place, the American Pit Bull Terrier gets along fine with children and with cats or other household pets. Behavioral training and rearing alongside other pets is important for socialization, otherwise they may be eager to fight other dogs, especially when challenged. They make great home protectors. The American Pit Bull Terrier is usually friendly with strangers when their owners are present. It makes a good family dog as long as the family can handle its boisterousness. It highly desires its owner’s attention and approval.

Care: The American Pit Bull Terrier’s coat should be cared for by removing dead and loose hairs periodically with a rubber brush. American Pit Bull Terriers can live outdoors but prefer indoor life with a family. Be sure to keep the dog attended outdoors due to public perception. American Pit Bull Terriers live 10-12 years and have litters of 5-10 puppies.

Training: The American Pit Bull Terrier must be taught at an early age not to pull on the leash, as it becomes very strong when fully grown. It can learn a great deal if consistently trained. Intense socialization at an early age is important. American Pit Bull Terriers are obedient and have a very strong desire to please their owner. Training should be patient, respectful, and firm.

Activity: The American Pit Bull Terrier needs plenty of exercise. It enjoys running alongside a bicycle or catching a ball or Frisbee. It also enjoys playing fetch. The American Pit Bull Terrier can live in an apartment as long as sufficient attention and exercise is provided.


******Ok so theres a VAST and OBVIOUS difference in size and weight between these breeds... For the breed integrity they should be registered and judged completely seperate. They are NOT the same breed. Am I the only one that sees this?!?! There are alot of pitbulls that lose shows because they're judged by the same standards as an Am Staff.. wheres the fairness in that?*****

pics of my point

the pit bull it a taller skinnyer boned dog then the amstaff







amsatff pic
am staff low back big boned








pitbull pic
high back small boned








them to pics say it all not the same breed

APBT & AST & AB integrity

The debate of Pit bull , amstaff, and bully being the same breed is really getting old. The way I see it the APBT & AMSTAFF are the same breed because no other breed has been added to either since the genepool was seperated by the AKC. They are however differant styles of the dog. Now the American Bully is tricky because I love the cross of APBT & AMSTAFF for a bullystyle dog that retains some working ability but the problem is that the bully breeders have added differant bulldog lines to it but still register them as pitbull so they can have papers. Not all have done this but it makes it very hard for me to find the kind of dogs I like since the pedigrees I like are dominated by the ABKC but only about 30% are correct pedigrees in my opinion not to mention the dogs are getting so sloppy and ugly.

So if a AMSTAFF is shown in the UKC it should be shown by the APBT standard.
The American Bully should be it's own breed and although it would piss people off and send a ripple effect through the community it is only right to investigate these breeds geneticly and any APBT/AMSTAFF with bulldog blood added in the past 20 years should be re-registered as American Bully along with all their offspring to make it easier for people like me to find the dogs they like.

My idea of the APBT that I love is a combo of the original bloodlines that were seperated(APBT/AMSTAFF). What you get is a Correct, Heavy, Low to the ground but proportionate, Big Heads, Working Drive, Less likely to be dog agressive, Athletic, Intelegent, Highly Trainable, Loving, and last but not least Very pleasing too look at dogs. Males 16-19in, 60-85lbs/females 15-18in, 50-70lbs is what I like!! Lower sizes.

Pitbull or amstaff or bully

What would you say each one of these dogs are?