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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-02-2014 04:08 AM:

Re: If it was...

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Originally posted by Treed Deep
…UN-intentional, considering how much rubbed off I'd say Carl has excellent karma.

If you believe in karma I suspect ole Carl will be with T-Bone and Bigtime when he is gone from here. I just seriously doubt there will be any trees for game to go up.

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Posted by Treed Deep on 04-02-2014 01:55 PM:

You should get this...

I don't believe that what happened to those dogs was a result of karma, I think that was a result of haters. However I'll agree to disagree with you at this point cause you've made up your mind on what you think about Carl and everyone knows it. How much they care what you think about him is a different story.

Posted by nccatfisher on 04-02-2014 02:28 PM:

You should get this:

I and several other people don't think they were stolen. Ones heritage was deeply in question and was about to be brought up and all of a sudden they were gone.

As for how I feel about him it would make not one bit of difference to me if I was the only one that felt that way about him I would still have those feelings. I don't have to run with the crowd.

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Posted by Al Medcalf on 04-02-2014 11:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nccatfisher
You should get this:

I and several other people don't think they were stolen. Ones heritage was deeply in question and was about to be brought up and all of a sudden they were gone.

As for how I feel about him it would make not one bit of difference to me if I was the only one that felt that way about him I would still have those feelings. I don't have to run with the crowd.

Yes Sir, from a UKC registered full tailed Treeing Cur in South Georgia to a bobtailed OMCBA registered dog in East Tennessee in a matter of days. Did I see it? No. Do I believe the man that told me? Hell yes I do!

It's way past time for Carl to step down. He's a manipulative and controlling person, setting up the BOD with as many "Yes Men" as he can get on there. I'm like Tim, I don't have to run with a crowd, we just happen to agree.

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Posted by Bill Mills on 04-03-2014 11:35 AM:

Guys im new to curs but the facts are in black in white as far as if streak dogs make the cut...every time i see hunt results it seems its a thunder blood streak blood bred hound at or near the top. We luv our geronimo and streak bred pups.....naturals

Im sorry i guess i jusy dont get the hate

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Posted by Treed Deep on 04-03-2014 01:56 PM:

Rumors, rumors and more rumors..

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Originally posted by nccatfisher
You should get this:

I and several other people don't think they were stolen. Ones heritage was deeply in question and was about to be brought up and all of a sudden they were gone.

As for how I feel about him it would make not one bit of difference to me if I was the only one that felt that way about him I would still have those feelings. I don't have to run with the crowd.

Well you and several other people have become professional conspiracy theorists in your latter years cause it's just one rumor after another, that's all you propose when it comes to the OMCBA. Got to keep the chatter going on these forum boards some way I guess don't you? And your right you don't have to run with the crowd but you don't have to continually try to draw one to yourself with conspiracy theories either.

Posted by mdmorrison on 04-03-2014 02:14 PM:

I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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Originally posted by Bill Mills
Guys im new to curs but the facts are in black in white as far as if streak dogs make the cut...every time i see hunt results it seems its a thunder blood streak blood bred hound at or near the top. We luv our geronimo and streak bred pups.....naturals

Im sorry i guess i jusy dont get the hate

.....And will likely always have some in my dogs to a degree. In fact, I've actually owned 3 direct daughters of Streak in my time.

HOWEVER, you do understand don't you, that Geronimo is, if I've got my math right, only about 1/8th Smith's Streak? Same is true for Looney's 20/20 Tank as they are full brothers. Thus, I don't personally consider decendents of Apache to be "Streak-bred" dogs.......unless their mothers were very heavily bred that way, thereby substantially increasing the percentages.

Just a little food for thought....

Mark.

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 02:37 PM:

Mark is yours Streak bred hounds, fyce, feist, or curs?

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 02:48 PM:

Re: Rumors, rumors and more rumors..

quote:
Originally posted by Treed Deep
Well you and several other people have become professional conspiracy theorists in your latter years cause it's just one rumor after another, that's all you propose when it comes to the OMCBA. Got to keep the chatter going on these forum boards some way I guess don't you? And your right you don't have to run with the crowd but you don't have to continually try to draw one to yourself with conspiracy theories either.

I haven't become a conspiracy theorist, but I don't go around with my head in the sand or up my butt either. I bet you think Camo Jug is pure as the driven snow also?

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Posted by mdmorrison on 04-03-2014 03:01 PM:

That's all according to who you ask....

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Mark is yours Streak bred hounds, fyce, feist, or curs?

....Heck, Tommy Howard called me the other day and informed me that Apache was Geronimo's SON! Who knew?

Of course, he wasn't the first, nor prolly the last, to say such a thing.....LOL!

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 03:04 PM:

Re: That's all according to who you ask....

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....Heck, Tommy Howard called me the other day and informed me that Apache was Geronimo's SON! Who knew?

Of course, he wasn't the first, nor prolly the last, to say such a thing.....LOL!

Heck he is burnt out on mustard. LOL

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Posted by odg on 04-03-2014 03:24 PM:

catfisher hows them hounds of yours bred i had two pure bred busher dogs on paper but by looking at one he was maby 30 pounds high pitched mouth all eyes the other was big black ears like a hound built like a bird dog i dont think many people know how the cur dogs are bred

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 03:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by odg
catfisher hows them hounds of yours bred i had two pure bred busher dogs on paper but by looking at one he was maby 30 pounds high pitched mouth all eyes the other was big black ears like a hound built like a bird dog i dont think many people know how the cur dogs are bred

All mine are Huntsman or Nickelson but one is half Bennett.

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Posted by Bill Mills on 04-03-2014 03:37 PM:

Re: I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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Originally posted by mdmorrison
.....And will likely always have some in my dogs to a degree. In fact, I've actually owned 3 direct daughters of Streak in my time.

HOWEVER, you do understand don't you, that Geronimo is, if I've got my math right, only about 1/8th Smith's Streak? Same is true for Looney's 20/20 Tank as they are full brothers. Thus, I don't personally consider decendents of Apache to be "Streak-bred" dogs.......unless their mothers were very heavily bred that way, thereby substantially increasing the percentages.

Just a little food for thought....

Mark.

I totally agree Mark Im a pedigree nut lol so I know what you are saying lol me and my kennel partner looked around for a very long time before deciding on our pups. My point is that eventhough they are 1/8 streak or whatever...........its still the origination or start of a line and is that way in many kennel. I tend to call the pups we hav Mt state bred or thunder bred apache etc..

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 03:45 PM:

Re: Re: I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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Originally posted by Bill Mills
I totally agree Mark Im a pedigree nut lol so I know what you are saying lol me and my kennel partner looked around for a very long time before deciding on our pups. My point is that eventhough they are 1/8 streak or whatever...........its still the origination or start of a line and is that way in many kennel. I tend to call the pups we hav Mt state bred or thunder bred apache etc..

I am pretty partial to the old Thunder dog, Mark knows why. LOL

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Posted by odg on 04-03-2014 03:53 PM:

catfisher i was talking about your walker dog but i guess when i said hound you just thought of your cur dogs

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Posted by mdmorrison on 04-03-2014 03:58 PM:

Re: Re: Re: I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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I am pretty partial to the old Thunder dog, Mark knows why. LOL

Hateful & Hurtful!

Ha!!!

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Posted by Bill Mills on 04-03-2014 04:04 PM:

Re: Re: Re: I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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Originally posted by nccatfisher
I am pretty partial to the old Thunder dog, Mark knows why. LOL

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 04:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by odg
catfisher i was talking about your walker dog but i guess when i said hound you just thought of your cur dogs

No I am just used to people that haven't been hunting them long not knowing the difference. I don't own her anymore. After owning curs no matter how well a hound does even the best of them they are still a hound. I sold her recently. I got tired of leading her out of the woods. I got a chance to buy one of my dogs I had here before back.

She actually needed to be in these high dollar money squirrel hunts anyway and I am not going to comp hunt anymore. I never squirrel hunted her but twice once was trying her out when I got her and the other was when she slipped by me when I was feeding her before I taught her better. I just coon hunted her. She will show up in those hunts now. She was smoke bred.

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Posted by mdmorrison on 04-03-2014 04:14 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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Originally posted by Bill Mills
?

Cope is referring to the rumor that Thunder was actually Duff's Bob bred, as opposed to being out of Streak, Jr. x Georgetta.....

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 04:17 PM:

Stomp baby stomp. LOL

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Posted by mdmorrison on 04-03-2014 04:27 PM:

LOL!

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Stomp baby stomp. LOL

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Posted by Bill Mills on 04-03-2014 09:32 PM:

Even if thats true......it worked! .......cause the line of thunder dogs are WINNERS!!!!

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Posted by nccatfisher on 04-03-2014 11:10 PM:

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Even if thats true......it worked! .......cause the line of thunder dogs are WINNERS!!!!

Yeah, and that would make good sense why.

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Posted by fycedogs on 04-04-2014 03:06 AM:

Re: I'm not amongst the Streak haters....

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Originally posted by mdmorrison
.....And will likely always have some in my dogs to a degree. In fact, I've actually owned 3 direct daughters of Streak in my time.

HOWEVER, you do understand don't you, that Geronimo is, if I've got my math right, only about 1/8th Smith's Streak? Same is true for Looney's 20/20 Tank as they are full brothers. Thus, I don't personally consider decendents of Apache to be "Streak-bred" dogs.......unless their mothers were very heavily bred that way, thereby substantially increasing the percentages.

Just a little food for thought....

Mark.

And so it begins.....

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