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Please score this
3 dog cast. dog A and B have just been scored on tree. They are led away and the 8 is applied to dog C who has been truck in before A and B were scored. 8 is broke when the cast faintly hears dog C treed through the country leash locking A and B. Cast walks 45mins to dog C to find that he is treed across a big river. 20 mins is spent searching and searching for a way across to no avail when handler of dog C tries to cross and but is just too deep causing him to almost going under. The truck is over 1.5 miles in the opposite direction from where dog C is treed and clearly out of hearing distance of the dog.
Hmm decisions....What to do?
And when you guys score this, please reference Rule number and why you chose the route you chose. Thanks.
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rule
RULE 7-a ! call time out! danger to dogs or handlers!!! delete!
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rule
more to it than that! if time out is called than you have 1-hr to retrieve your dog!!
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What about calling time to walk to a dog split over 15 min away?
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Re: rule
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CHEWBACH
RULE 7-a ! call time out! danger to dogs or handlers!!! delete! [/QUO
When you call time with a dog treed, you must score the tree.
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Re: rule
quote:
Originally posted by CHEWBACH
RULE 7-a ! call time out! danger to dogs or handlers!!! delete!
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quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
What about calling time to walk to a dog split over 15 min away?
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You follow rule 7(f). If the only way across is to return to the truck and drive around, that is is what you do. You walk to truck for 10 minutes, call time, restart time when you score the tree, call time and move to new spot after scoring tree.
If all this causes you to miss deadline, that is the way it goes sometimes. But regardless of anything else, you gotta score that tree.
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quote:
Originally posted by JiM
You follow rule 7(f). If the only way across is to return to the truck and drive around, that is is what you do. You walk to truck for 10 minutes, call time, restart time when you score the tree, call time and move to new spot after scoring tree.
If all this causes you to miss deadline, that is the way it goes sometimes. But regardless of anything else, you gotta score that tree.
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I didn't say you have drive, I'm saying you do what you have to do to get to that dog and score it.
Now, by adding your new "wrench in the spoke", you are making it clear you don't want that dog scored and instead of finding away across the water, you are instead devising any way you can to stop the dog from being scored.
When it's all said and done, if a majority don't want that dog scored, I just accept I'm screwed and withdraw to get my dog. And pet her up real good for staying under that coon till I could get to her.
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quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I didn't say you have drive, I'm saying you do what you have to do to get to that dog and score it.
Now, by adding your new "wrench in the spoke", you are making it clear you don't want that dog scored and instead of finding away across the water, you are instead devising any way you can to stop the dog from being scored.
When it's all said and done, if a majority don't want that dog scored, I just accept I'm screwed and withdraw to get my dog. And pet her up real good for staying under that coon till I could get to her.
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Yes.
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quote:
Originally posted by JiM
You follow rule 7(f). If the only way across is to return to the truck and drive around, that is is what you do. You walk to truck for 10 minutes, call time, restart time when you score the tree, call time and move to new spot after scoring tree.
If all this causes you to miss deadline, that is the way it goes sometimes. But regardless of anything else, you gotta score that tree.
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Re: Re: rule
quote:how in the hell you gonna score it if ya cant get to it!!lol
Originally posted by JiM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CHEWBACH
RULE 7-a ! call time out! danger to dogs or handlers!!! delete! [/QUO
When you call time with a dog treed, you must score the tree.
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Re: Re: rule
quote:Well swim and get the dog!! lol
Originally posted by Steve Raleigh
So, basically you are saying that if you were the judge you would have told handler C that we need to call time out and you will have 1 hour to catch your dog and meet the cast back here where we are currently at (or any designated meeting spot for that matter) (1.5 miles from the truck mind you) which clearly is going to be well over 1 hr resulting in a scratch.
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Re: Re: Re: rule
quote:
Originally posted by CHEWBACH
how in the hell you gonna score it if ya cant get to it!!lol
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I will tell you all the outcome and the finer details of what took place on this situation if anyone cares?
Now mind you all, this is a scenario that is very probable and could very well happen and most likely has happened multiple times in a UKC night hunt.
So we have a couple votes for using 7-F, call time out...go to town if you want and grab a bite to eat b/c you do not have a time limit to get to the dog....disregard the barking once every 2 min on tree and the fact that the judge can no longer accurately score that dog as you have walked out of hearing distance from the dog back to the trucks, so the dog could very well leave the tree and come treed again and nobody knows it. Then after your dinner drive around to the other side of the river walk another hour on the other side get to the tree that the dog may or may not be barking at b/c the barking every 2 mins no longer applies. Find the dog, call time back in and score that dogs tree.
And we have one with applying Rule 7-A. To call time out-delete tree and give the handler of dog C the opportunity of getting his dog and returning to the cast within 1 hr.
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How i'd do it
The best think to do is be a good sportsmen an withdraw tell the rest of the men in the cast have a good hunt and then go gather your dog up JMO
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Raleigh
So we have a couple votes for using 7-F, call time out...go to town if you want and grab a bite to eat b/c you do not have a time limit to get to the dog....disregard the barking once every 2 min on tree and the fact that the judge can no longer accurately score that dog as you have walked out of hearing distance from the dog back to the trucks, so the dog could very well leave the tree and come treed again and nobody knows it. Then after your dinner drive around to the other side of the river walk another hour on the other side get to the tree that the dog may or may not be barking at b/c the barking every 2 mins no longer applies. Find the dog, call time back in and score that dogs tree.
. [/B]
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Re: How i'd do it
quote:
Originally posted by krocket
The best think to do is be a good sportsmen an withdraw tell the rest of the men in the cast have a good hunt and then go gather your dog up JMO
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score
ok tell the judge to get his inflatable raft out ! lets score this tree!!!lol
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Jim could the man with the dog just said call time out and I will call the dog in. Then continue the hunt?
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quote:
Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
Jim could the man with the dog just said call time out and I will call the dog in. Then continue the hunt?
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quote:
Originally posted by JiM
This is why I made the comment earlier that it appears you have made up your mind that one way or another, this dog ain't getting scored on that tree.
Go to dinner in the middle of a hunt with a dog treed? With that comment, you have completely left reality behind. Can't run the two as you walk to dog with time out? Where'd you get that one?
You guys crack me up. You ask a rule question and when you don't hear what you want to hear, you change, add, subtract and reword the question to get to where you want it to be. Whatever. If my dog is treed during hunt time, she's eligible to be scored.
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For the almighty guy that thinks he knows it all and thinks ppl were trying to take advantage of dog C.
The outcome: dog C was treed with dog B to begin with and left...took his minus then dog C ran junk out of there and crossed a big river then the fell off treed...handler of C tried to cross River but went swimming and after that said he was done and WD...in addition the guide said after that dog C was treed on someone else's land that he does not have permission to hunt.
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