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X Bred and the Purina Series

Does the Purina series not recognize X Bred hounds?

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Robbie Spears with
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Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything!!!
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People accuse me of being color blind. The truth is I will hunt red ones, blue ones, black and white ones, yellow ones, black and tan ones, or even brindle ones; Just as long as they are English!

Purina Series recognizes the different breeds. X Breds are just that, a mixture of 2 or more breeds. You can't show them. They don't have a Breed association or Breed Days because they aren't a "breed".

lol ...

x-bred days ...that would be interesting lol

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Oh my goodness, it would be colorful. You could just show up with anything and hunt in it. Even the Thursday night hunt would be an "all breed" hunt. And anyone could join the X-Bred Breed Association since it would be made up of all breeds. Just think what a nightmare that would be for the Purina Race. What if you had a 'Pr' Redbone that was colored like a blk n tan and had to be registered as a X-Bred?

Them X Bred dogs got to eat purina too!!! Lol

It just seems if they wanted the best hounds in the country they wouldn’t exclude any hounds.

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Robbie Spears with
Prime Time English Kennels
606 454 2282

GRNITECHHOF PKC CHAMPION ‘PR' PRIME TIME OUTLAW JESSE JAMES HTX3
2019 6th Place UKC World Championship
2019 Purina Race National Leader

Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything!!!
–- Wyatt Earp

People accuse me of being color blind. The truth is I will hunt red ones, blue ones, black and white ones, yellow ones, black and tan ones, or even brindle ones; Just as long as they are English!

ya definitely a nightmare!!

whistle on track hoot on tree...and spin circles at the bottom chasing it's tail ....would be a interesting hunt to say the least lol

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bring some wood pile hounds out of the dark!!

we could even get Jerry to bring his coon hunting monkey !!! be alot of dead hounds...his monkey hates a lieing coondog !! lol

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What would be the issue?

If you have X bred papers you hunt on Thursday night against other X bred registered dogs.

On fri and Saturday night it would be an open ukc hunt like all other breed days.

I don’t understand what would be interesting about it

On the show side I will give there is no standards since it not a breed. I don’t think most with Xbred are worrying about a bench show.

The hunting side of it is no different than any other.

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X Bred

That could be a good thing. Night Cry, you are saying a dog has to be pure bred to look and sound like a hound?

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David Disotell
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no sir

saying there woulkd be alot of different traits all on one level playing field I think it would be interesting. lol

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I do not understand why there is not a generic x-bred standard (IMO Just go with the English standard and allow all colors) so that they can be shown. Because they are more likely to be hunted (as opposed to brood stock for that great "old blood" LOL), I think correct conformation is just as important (if not more so) than the pure bred hounds.

I do not understand why there is not a generic x-bred standard (IMO Just go with the English standard and allow all colors) so that they can be shown. Because they are more likely to be hunted (as opposed to brood stock for that great "old blood" LOL), I think correct conformation is just as important (if not more so) than the pure bred hounds.

I do not understand why there is not a generic x-bred standard (IMO Just go with the English standard and allow all colors) so that they can be shown. Because they are more likely to be hunted (as opposed to brood stock for that great "old blood" LOL), I think correct conformation is just as important (if not more so) than the pure bred hounds.

Night Cry

What are these different traits that you speak of? Please elaborate on the subject.

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David Disotell
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brass tacks.....

get down to the root of my issues with this.. ..true houndsman have been determined to make the coonhound of there choice for many many years to what works for them and the traits in wich gives them the most success wether it be to feed there family make a income off of hides or bragging rights ...different standard breeds were all at one time x bred hounds at some point .....but the ukc along with other registries took note that men wanted to keep track of the blood running through there hounds to figure out what made them into the hounds they were based solely off of bloodlines ....i see it to be a good thing having a new breed due to so many people being hard to please with the standard coonhound breeds that are recognized now ....however I feel it wouldn't have any consistency until the same line was crossed several times to see over time what one truly has in there x-bred line ...but how does a man do that when he's constantly crossing different standard breeds to create his own ?? maybe I'm confused or just plain dumb ...but I just think it's a huge slap in the face to the men and true houndsman of our past that spent decades making the breeds we have came to know as standard and the times spent keeping track of them on paper....im all for it if a person was to try a create a new breed but just don't see how it's possible to have a good outcome or any consistency for x-bred to become a breed of its own until it is established by many generations ....and at that point then it would be a breed of its own with its own breed name ..and people would still want to have x bred hounds registered ...so where does it ever end for anyone to gain anything from this or be satisfied ...xbred isn't a breed of its own !! it's a mixture of two seperate breeds ...just my opinion ...

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Wow, that is almost word for word the arguments being made when you were asking to be recognized for registration. And the crossbreeds got what they wanted, UKC registration, making them eligable to hunt in the nite hunt events. Now, you want to be recognized as a breed when in fact you know very well that Crossbreds are not a breed. Hows about being satisfied with what you got?

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So is it really that different crossing a line bred walker to a line bred english as opposed to crossing a line bred walker to a line bred walker? (Assuming each walker is of different dominate lines) Or are you guys suggesting it's impossible to find two walkers who are different?

Oh my goodness, can I start my own Breed? Can I get UKC to recognize them? And Purina could recognize them also and create a category for them in the Purina Race.

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, can I start my own Breed? Can I get UKC to recognize them? And Purina could recognize them also and create a category for them in the Purina Race.

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Night Cry

You still never mentioned anything about traits, just rambling about reversing things that people did along time ago. Breeding is a crap shoot when you consider the amount of crosses being made copared to top dogs being produced. You stated that these crossbred dogs would be hooting, whistling, and chasing their tail at the tree. Is this something you witnessed or something a breeder told you would happen? Jealousy exists everywhere, if you're not buying or hunting pups from a certain line it will never be as good as that certain line. I'm glad that UKC will let people hunt dogs from the recognized coonhound breeds. You still have to do your homework with crossbreds just like with purebreds.

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David Disotell
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your right ...

nothing I can say will make any difference it will just make this thread longer with more opinions ...il stick to mine you stick to yours ....as long as each of us are happy with what we are feeding we are both winners

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A lot of crosses back in the day would have been proven crosses only one problem ............. They didn't know who the long haired , flag tailed , yellow eyed , daddy was he got hauled to the pound way before his pups started winning world hunts lol.




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Originally posted by yadkintar
A lot of crosses back in the day would have been proven crosses only one problem ............. They didn't know who the long haired , flag tailed , yellow eyed , daddy was he got hauled to the pound way before his pups started winning world hunts lol.




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Originally posted by CHEWBACH
just one word !! weeweewee !! gone hunting

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Originally posted by yadkintar
A lot of crosses back in the day would have been proven crosses only one problem ............. They didn't know who the long haired , flag tailed , yellow eyed , daddy was he got hauled to the pound way before his pups started winning world hunts lol.

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