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Posted by BradD20 on 11-30-2021 01:36 PM:

Missing coon by a tree

The dog Iíve been hunting hard keeps me scratching my head. Most nights heíll drive one in there and have the coon. Occasionally (three times this month) he has went in and struck a track, moved it a couple hundred, fell treed and was slick but the coon was sitting a tree or two over. Heís never had any issues on a tree with another dog and has no reason to not want to be on the tree the coon is in. My only thought is that what i think is him picking up a track and driving it, is really him getting downwind of layup coon by a couple hundred yards and heís getting treed at the last place he smells the coon. Heís not just falling treed, every instance this has happened heís been open and seemed to be either working a track or winding for a couple hundred yards or more before he gets treed. Anyone had one doing this or have any advice on the subject?


Posted by Ron Jackson on 11-30-2021 02:17 PM:

Just pull him off and send him the direction of the correct tree.If you do that he should figure it out. He is most likely winding and missing but there will be more scent on the correct tree most likely.


Posted by houndsound on 12-01-2021 01:45 PM:

I see this most often in our Russian Olive trees.... coons travel up and down them all day and night feeding... For whatever reason when I see my dog do this... it seems to usually be him treed on a Russian Olive, a tree or two over from where the coon is.

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Posted by PreacherTom on 12-01-2021 08:17 PM:

May be winding the coon and settling where he gets the best scent. Years ago I hunted with a dog that winded a lot of coon out of the truck. Sometimes he would miss at the tree and Kenny would light a cigarette, blow the smoke in the air and see which way it went. Then look up wind a tree or two and find the coon. But your dog is a lot closer than some I have hunted with in the last few years, lol.

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Posted by david.e.penley on 12-08-2021 11:44 PM:

Coon crossing into another tree

I seen a coon cross over five trees, I thought my dog was slick like you. I started to put the heat on that coon and watched it cross back over 5 trees and went into the tree the dog was teeing on. I learned alot that night. If the limbs are touching each other , your dog are not coming up slick. Coons are smarter then people sometimes.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 12-09-2021 02:25 AM:

Re: Coon crossing into another tree

quote:
Originally posted by david.e.penley
I seen a coon cross over five trees, I thought my dog was slick like you. I started to put the heat on that coon and watched it cross back over 5 trees and went into the tree the dog was teeing on. I learned alot that night. If the limbs are touching each other , your dog are not coming up slick. Coons are smarter then people sometimes.


David, I agree somewhat in that coon definitely change trees sometimes, but if a dog is doing that a lot of times, it is just wind treeing as some other posters have suggested. I have seen several coons cross over into other trees, but most coons do not cross over into other trees. The fact that they do sometimes cross over into other trees make it really hard to surmise if that is the case or not. Just like some coons will run in the ground while most coons do not. You have to decide based on the dogs accuracy and how offer they miss by a tree or two what the dog is actually doing.Dave

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Posted by J Gearing on 12-09-2021 02:04 PM:

Winding, coons crossing trees............... Maybe some dogs are just not good locators.


Posted by shadinc on 12-10-2021 01:06 AM:

I've seen both.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 12-10-2021 03:43 AM:

Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
I've seen both.


X2, A experienced hunter that knows his dog can usually tell what his dog is doing, wind treeing or barking up the tree the coon actually climbed if it did cross over. A real accurate dog will have most of them in the tree they are barking up, that does not mean that a coon never crosses over to another tree they certainly can and do cross trees from time to time regardless of who does not believe they will. All a dog has is it's nose, never seen a dog with a 400.00 light to help them locate the coon. Lol. Dave

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Posted by houndsound on 12-24-2021 03:56 AM:

Re: Missing coon by a tree

quote:
Originally posted by BradD20
The dog Iíve been hunting hard keeps me scratching my head. Most nights heíll drive one in there and have the coon. Occasionally (three times this month) he has went in and struck a track, moved it a couple hundred, fell treed and was slick but the coon was sitting a tree or two over. Heís never had any issues on a tree with another dog and has no reason to not want to be on the tree the coon is in. My only thought is that what i think is him picking up a track and driving it, is really him getting downwind of layup coon by a couple hundred yards and heís getting treed at the last place he smells the coon. Heís not just falling treed, every instance this has happened heís been open and seemed to be either working a track or winding for a couple hundred yards or more before he gets treed. Anyone had one doing this or have any advice on the subject?


BE CAREFUL !!!!!

I'm going to have to tell on myself... acted like a true rookie tonight. Hudson (young Walker male) runs a pretty nice track... moves it about 300 yards, make a short loss, goes to treeing. He's close to the road so I drive to him.

I walk in and I see them bright eyes shinning and looking at me in the top of a big old tree.... but as I get closer I realize dumb Hudson is treed 20 yards to the left of the coon. I work to him and see him treed in a 10' tall stump in the middle of a bunch of brush... I shine the stump for 30 seconds and see nothing. I KNOW he missed it. I scold him off the tree and he wanders off. 5 minutes of wandering around he ends up treeing the coon I seen.

I get a nice video of this young hound treed and feel good we ended on a good note, but frustrated he came up short on his own. I leash him up, cross the creek and look across the field and what would you guess I see looking at me on top of that 10' stump! Mr. Coon.... wasn't sure but think I could hear it laughing at me.

Trust your dog... they may know more than we do at times.

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Posted by david.e.penley on 12-24-2021 04:34 AM:

Re: Re: Coon crossing into another tree

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
David, I agree somewhat in that coon definitely change trees sometimes, but if a dog is doing that a lot of times, it is just wind treeing as some other posters have suggested. I have seen several coons cross over into other trees, but most coons do not cross over into other trees. The fact that they do sometimes cross over into other trees make it really hard to surmise if that is the case or not. Just like some coons will run in the ground while most coons do not. You have to decide based on the dogs accuracy and how offer they miss by a tree or two what the dog is actually doing.Dave


Only happen one time, it just showed me once that coon walked back to the tree the dog was teeing on. Made me a believer that a coon will travel across several trees , not just to the next tree.

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Posted by Sonny Phipps on 12-24-2021 06:55 PM:

Iíve had a few that I wished only missed by ONE tree! 😂
A few of them u couldnít find a coon for hundreds of yards aroundÖ.

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