UKC Forums - Ted Cruz

Pages (4): [1] 2 3 » ... Last »
Show all 92 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- Off Topic (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=53)
-- Ted Cruz (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928447216)

Posted by berger on 03-22-2016 07:12 PM:

Ted Cruz

Is he part of the Washington DC Establishment or is he considered Anti Establishment?

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

Posted by 4play on 03-22-2016 07:36 PM:

Cruz

Anti.
The Establishment don't like him either.That's why Kasick is hanging
around.
He thinks they will "Welfare" him the nomination in Cleveland.

Posted by Well Started on 03-22-2016 08:36 PM:

Anti Establishment. They despise him. He refuses to go along with their crap, and isn't afraid to expose and make a big stink about back door deals right on the Senate floor.

Now some of them are starting to crawl to him because they see him as their only option. They will have to play his game now, same thing that happened with Reagan.

Posted by berger on 03-23-2016 01:39 AM:

I see where Jan Morgan has dropped her support for Cruz.

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 01:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
I see where Jan Morgan has dropped her support for Cruz.

Boy that changes everything. Haha. Not making fun of her in any way, she can endorse or support anyone she chooses, but you would have trouble finding more than 1 out of 300 people that even knew who she is.

Posted by nitehunter2004 on 03-23-2016 01:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
I see where Jan Morgan has dropped her support for Cruz.

Don't know who she is but sounds like a wise decision!

Posted by berger on 03-23-2016 02:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
Don't know who she is but sounds like a wise decision!

Nitehunter she is a indoor gun range owner that has advertised her gun range as a Muslim free Zone. She is a very strong advocate for the coalition of Women Rights to Guns. Google her name it is all over google.. inform yourselves.

Not getting Palin's endorsement was big, but having Jan disavow her endorsement is HUGE.

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 02:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Nitehunter she is a indoor gun range owner that has advertised her gun range as a Muslim free Zone. She is a very strong advocate for the coalition of Women Rights to Guns. Google her name it is all over google.. inform yourselves.

Not getting Palin's endorsement was big, but having Jan disavow her endorsement is HUGE.

Yeah its really huge. You just instructed Nitehunter to google her name so he even knows who she is. Lol. Keep at it, you might educate 10 people on here, by Friday it might make the 2 AM news.

Posted by nitehunter2004 on 03-23-2016 02:40 AM:

Easy now, im purdy sure she has never heard of me either LOL.

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 02:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
Easy now, im purdy sure she has never heard of me either LOL.

Probably not, but then again Berger isn't hinging Cruz's campaign on your importance. Haha. It's such big news that she withdrew her support on March 11th. Took 11 days to stumble across it.

Posted by berger on 03-23-2016 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
Probably not, but then again Berger isn't hinging Cruz's campaign on your importance. Haha. It's such big news that she withdrew her support on March 11th. Took 11 days to stumble across it.

Well it was hard to believe Cruz's campaign hadn't announced it yet, as they have always seemed to been on top of reporting all Ted's endorsements like Chuck Norris, oh wait that didn't happen! Ben Carson quit his campaign and was headed home, oh wait that didn't happen at the time!!

Hmmm now thinking about that looks like they report false happenings, guess that is why they didn't mention Jan Morgan disavowing her endorsement to Cruz!!!

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 03:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Well it was hard to believe Cruz's campaign hadn't announced it yet, as they have always seemed to been on top of reporting all Ted's endorsements like Chuck Norris, oh wait that didn't happen! Ben Carson quit his campaign and was headed home, oh wait that didn't happen at the time!!

Hmmm now thinking about that looks like they report false happenings, guess that is why they didn't mention Jan Morgan disavowing her endorsement to Cruz!!!

Yes I don't know why either, it is such HUGE news. So big that me as an avid Cruz supporter didn't even know she had supported him in the first place, so therefore didn't know she had withdrew. I don't know how I missed it, it must of been all over the news since it happened 11 days ago.

You're laughable. You blame Cruz for not reporting something. Yet you're the 1 touting it as huge news, except nobody but you knew about for 11 days. Lol

Posted by berger on 03-23-2016 04:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
Yes I don't know why either, it is such HUGE news. So big that me as an avid Cruz supporter didn't even know she had supported him in the first place, so therefore didn't know she had withdrew. I don't know how I missed it, it must of been all over the news since it happened 11 days ago.

You're laughable. You blame Cruz for not reporting something. Yet you're the 1 touting it as huge news, except nobody but you knew about for 11 days. Lol

Well for it not being big news, you shor seem a little soar that it has been revealed. If you listened to her reason for doing so You would probably bust a gasket

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

Posted by rrs on 03-23-2016 03:15 PM:

Actually a bought and paid for insider that does the bidding of big right wing money, his career has been spent in politics, has connections to wall street and investment banking, disliked by all that know him, GOP establishment will do what ever it takes to derail Trump. Jeb's endorsement a ploy to lock the convention and nominate someone other than Trump, most likely not Cruz he is just a shill for that procedure, might get the VP, Speaker Ryan might well be the chosen one. Sad thing is if Trump is who the people want and party throws him under the bus, GOP will get beaten badly by Hillary and may well be the death bell and funeral for the GOP....

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 03:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Well for it not being big news, you shor seem a little soar that it has been revealed. If you listened to her reason for doing so You would probably bust a gasket

Not sore about anything, just finding it laughable about such HUGE news.

That's why my first response was, "boy that changes everything." Because like everybody else, I didn't know who she was, didn't know that she had originally supported Cruz, and didn't know she had withdrew.

Posted by berger on 03-23-2016 04:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rrs
Actually a bought and paid for insider that does the bidding of big right wing money, his career has been spent in politics, has connections to wall street and investment banking, disliked by all that know him, GOP establishment will do what ever it takes to derail Trump. Jeb's endorsement a ploy to lock the convention and nominate someone other than Trump, most likely not Cruz he is just a shill for that procedure, might get the VP, Speaker Ryan might well be the chosen one. Sad thing is if Trump is who the people want and party throws him under the bus, GOP will get beaten badly by Hillary and may well be the death bell and funeral for the GOP....

rrs your on to something and below I will even go farther to reveal he isn't Anti Establishment!!

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
Anti Establishment. They despise him. He refuses to go along with their crap, and isn't afraid to expose and make a big stink about back door deals right on the Senate floor.

Now some of them are starting to crawl to him because they see him as their only option. They will have to play his game now, same thing that happened with Reagan.

Establishment might dislike him but not for the reasons that you think. Yes he got on the floor and called out Mitch McConnell and called him a liar. The reason he could do this was because polling showed Mitch had a very unfavorable view to the voters. See in the early part of 2013 some of the richest lobbyist decided Cruz was there man. A big time hedge fund man and his daughter, A large oil and energy guy and his son, And a large owner of digitals which use this to do blind voting on the internet to know how the voters are leaning on certain issues. So his rant to McConnell looked positive to blindly lead his sheep to follow him. But that wasn't the first step the first step was to filibuster in 2013 and shut down the government knowing full well that Ted wouldn't change a thing in fact there would be more added to the budget as democrats would have the final say and wouldn't need to cut a thing but add to it when the shut down ended. But this was a ploy to solidify the Evangelical and Conservative voters blindly lead them to vote for Ted. Then Ted voted the crucial Yes vote to get the TPP ball rolling. Knowing full well that he could vote No on the final vote and it would still pass as democrats would get what they wanted and would make sure it passed. But he had already done his ploy to blindly lead his sheep to vote for him. Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney aren't crawling back to endorse Ted they are running back to endorse Ted as they know he has been bought of by Washington Lobbyist's and all these republican lobbyist's are entwined in one way or another. Jan Morgan dropped her Endorsement for Ted Cruz because he joined Hillary, Bernie in blaming trump for the rioting and violence that happened at Trump rally in Chicago. He was ready to compromise the 1st Amendment for votes and if he was willing to compromise the 1st Amendment for a few votes what else is he willing to compromise on. Well maybe all of the US Constitution if his wife get's her way. Hiedi is one of the leaders in developing a One World Order or New World Order depends on who you talk to she has sat on the committees for this world order. So Ted's dad might be right that Cruz is a King if Hiedi would get her way to have a NWO that would undermine the U.S. Constitution.

Think and Inform Yourselves!!!

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

Posted by rrs on 03-23-2016 05:05 PM:

berger,
you have it right, hit the target- what real gun control is. Senator Cruz is a tool for as you have stated big rt. wing money, his wife a sr. executive at Sachs-Goldman who contributed to economic collapse, I believe that establishment will never nominate Senator Cruz and just use him to block the convention and turn to an outside candidate that the mainstream can support, again possibly Speaker Ryan, if Trump has the support of the people gop needs to get behind him or send the party to its demise...

Posted by nitehunter2004 on 03-23-2016 07:16 PM:

Re: Ted Cruz

quote:
Originally posted by berger
Is he part of the Washington DC Establishment or is he considered Anti Establishment?

He talks out both sides of his mouth so I have no idea, I can't stand to look at him much less hear him talk aka lie! JMO.

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 10:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by berger
rrs your on to something and below I will even go farther to reveal he isn't Anti Establishment!!

Establishment might dislike him but not for the reasons that you think. Yes he got on the floor and called out Mitch McConnell and called him a liar. The reason he could do this was because polling showed Mitch had a very unfavorable view to the voters. See in the early part of 2013 some of the richest lobbyist decided Cruz was there man. A big time hedge fund man and his daughter, A large oil and energy guy and his son, And a large owner of digitals which use this to do blind voting on the internet to know how the voters are leaning on certain issues. So his rant to McConnell looked positive to blindly lead his sheep to follow him. But that wasn't the first step the first step was to filibuster in 2013 and shut down the government knowing full well that Ted wouldn't change a thing in fact there would be more added to the budget as democrats would have the final say and wouldn't need to cut a thing but add to it when the shut down ended. But this was a ploy to solidify the Evangelical and Conservative voters blindly lead them to vote for Ted. Then Ted voted the crucial Yes vote to get the TPP ball rolling. Knowing full well that he could vote No on the final vote and it would still pass as democrats would get what they wanted and would make sure it passed. But he had already done his ploy to blindly lead his sheep to vote for him. Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney aren't crawling back to endorse Ted they are running back to endorse Ted as they know he has been bought of by Washington Lobbyist's and all these republican lobbyist's are entwined in one way or another. Jan Morgan dropped her Endorsement for Ted Cruz because he joined Hillary, Bernie in blaming trump for the rioting and violence that happened at Trump rally in Chicago. He was ready to compromise the 1st Amendment for votes and if he was willing to compromise the 1st Amendment for a few votes what else is he willing to compromise on. Well maybe all of the US Constitution if his wife get's her way. Hiedi is one of the leaders in developing a One World Order or New World Order depends on who you talk to she has sat on the committees for this world order. So Ted's dad might be right that Cruz is a King if Hiedi would get her way to have a NWO that would undermine the U.S. Constitution.

Think and Inform Yourselves!!!

You are so full of it I don't even know where to start. Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. All the long time established lobbyist loving politicians hate Cruz because he's actually a lobbyist loving politician? Explain that one to me??

Secondly Ted Cruz did NOT shut down the government. First of all he's a Senator. Funding comes from the House! Secondly at that time the Senate was controlled by the democrats. Obama and his administration was who decided to close Federal parks, furlough employees, and erect barricades at national memorials. Perhaps you should think and inform yourself!!?

Thirdly Cruz was fighting for a defund Obamacare ammendment to the budget, EXACTLY what he and many others had promised to do, except he's the only one to carry the torch with it when it mattered. The democrat led senate wouldn't go along with it, which created an impasse, but that was their call.

While all the republican yellow bellies were whining about all the positions they were going to lose because they were getting blamed for the shutdown, a yr later the republicans won in a landslide on the house side, and took over the senate. Again, maybe you should inform yourself???

Posted by nitehunter2004 on 03-23-2016 10:28 PM:

For an outsider he sure is getting a lot of endorsements from inside politicians!

Posted by rrs on 03-23-2016 10:42 PM:

Regardless if one believes Senator Cruz is an insider or not, bottom line is that he just is not electable, in order to win a general election the GOP will have to draw some independent votes, Cruz cannot do this, he is much more a divider than one who can unify. The demographics of the nation are not conducive to a right wing extreme candidate like Senator Cruz to win a general election, the votes to do so are just not there.Mainstream GOP knows this and as a result will most likely will never support the senator, believe even though the establishment detests Trump they realize he has a better chance to win and would get behind him if they have to.... If the voters feel the nomination is stolen from Trump they might just sit out the election, if a 3rd party emerges it will favor Hillary. Bottom line is that all should vote, vote for the candidate that you like best or dislike the least, might require holding your nose , but vote, voting is they key to choice and freedom or other wise big money hand picks the candidates and sets the agenda....

Posted by qchounds on 03-23-2016 10:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
You are so full of it I don't even know where to start. Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. All the long time established lobbyist loving politicians hate Cruz because he's actually a lobbyist loving politician? Explain that one to me??

Secondly Ted Cruz did NOT shut down the government. First of all he's a Senator. Funding comes from the House! Secondly at that time the Senate was controlled by the democrats. Obama and his administration was who decided to close Federal parks, furlough employees, and erect barricades at national memorials. Perhaps you should think and inform yourself!!?

Thirdly Cruz was fighting for a defund Obamacare ammendment to the budget, EXACTLY what he and many others had promised to do, except he's the only one to carry the torch with it when it mattered. The democrat led senate wouldn't go along with it, which created an impasse, but that was their call.

While all the republican yellow bellies were whining about all the positions they were going to lose because they were getting blamed for the shutdown, a yr later the republicans won in a landslide on the house side, and took over the senate. Again, maybe you should inform yourself???

Now THIS is an informed answer- Well said!

__________________
Dave Miller
5634994055
NtCh Miller's Alone Again Hannah

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 11:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
For an outsider he sure is getting a lot of endorsements from inside politicians!

Wouldn't say a lot, but he's starting to pull them in. They've tried all they know and figure this is their last option. They will have to concede and play ball his way, but at least they figure there will still be a house standing.

Posted by GA DAWG on 03-24-2016 01:24 AM:

Hes nothing more than a career politician. From Cuba or canada or wherever hes from. HE CAN. NOT WIN.....

__________________
Michael Ghorley

Posted by berger on 03-24-2016 02:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
You are so full of it I don't even know where to start. Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. All the long time established lobbyist loving politicians hate Cruz because he's actually a lobbyist loving politician? Explain that one to me??

Secondly Ted Cruz did NOT shut down the government. First of all he's a Senator. Funding comes from the House! Secondly at that time the Senate was controlled by the democrats. Obama and his administration was who decided to close Federal parks, furlough employees, and erect barricades at national memorials. Perhaps you should think and inform yourself!!?

Thirdly Cruz was fighting for a defund Obamacare ammendment to the budget, EXACTLY what he and many others had promised to do, except he's the only one to carry the torch with it when it mattered. The democrat led senate wouldn't go along with it, which created an impasse, but that was their call.

While all the republican yellow bellies were whining about all the positions they were going to lose because they were getting blamed for the shutdown, a yr later the republicans won in a landslide on the house side, and took over the senate. Again, maybe you should inform yourself???

First it is true that in early 2013 lobbyist's decided Cruz was there man and they guaranteed$40 million dollars to form a Cruz pac and they got Ted on board.

Secondly straight from Cruz's mouth he said he filibustered and shut down the government because he was wanting to defund Obamacare. Now your saying he didn't shut down the government. So are you saying Cruz lied, hmmmm sounds familiar!!

Third Cruz after the 2014 elections was talking about how the republicans were so worried they would loose seats in both house's because he shut down the government. Oops there again he was talking about how he shut down the government. Now Cruz was one of my top 2 picks when people were announcing they were running for President. Trump was at the bottom of the list down there with Jeb, Lindsay and Kasich. If you want to know the truth Rubio has done a lot more to cripple Obamacare then Cruz ever has.

__________________
Tree Jar'n Black and Tans
Home of Tree Jar'n Coonhound Kennels

319-201-8445

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:01 PM.

Pages (4): [1] 2 3 » ... Last »
Show all 92 posts from this thread on one page