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PUP TRAINING...What are the Negatives/Positives?

What I have learned...
calling the pups to give them a vaccine...calling the pups to force a pill down their throat...calling the pups to catch them and put them back in the pen...

all of the above are negatives and the pups will loose trust in us...and that could be a minor setback or it could become a major setback...
so how do we fix it? don't feed the pups until it is time to put them back up...let the pups run until they are tired and have quieted down some...fix the bowl of feed and then call them to kennel and give a hand signal as they come, might as well teach them voice commands as they are running to kennel...feed them and pet them up good...feed in a big dish and give extra and the pups will learn to eat side by side without fighting because the bowl has plenty of food and no need to fight over it...let them live in the same dog house for a good while so they can learn to socialize in tight places and it is conditioning the pups to ride in the dog box with other dogs when older...feeding late in the evening and load them up so they can eat during the night...this also eliminates the black grackles and starlings from eating their food, and, this way I only feed once instead of twice a day...

wormer...no pills down the throat...I mix a little food with the broken up pill and the pups want more...for a vaccine...I do not call them to give them one...I have one ready and when they come by to get petted I ease them up on the picnic table and they get the vaccine and the pup never really paid any attention...keeping it easy and keeping a good relationship with the pups...we can call this building the foundation...

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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

Reuben

Sound advise, I like positive reinforcement training. Dave

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One of the most successful breeders and breed promoters of all time use to publish a full page ad on how to be successful with your new pup and oddly enough, many of the points he made were directly opposite of Ruebens.

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Guess we should give them all a trophy for eating the food they haven’t even earned yet.

That is a great idea. If they don't tree a coon then don't feed them. Eventually you will only have pups that can tree a coon. The ones that can't/don't will starve.

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
That is a great idea. If they don't tree a coon then don't feed them. Eventually you will only have pups that can tree a coon. The ones that can't/don't will starve.

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Reuben

Your advice sounds too much like common sense. It can't be right.

Just kidding. Thanks for the reply.

Re: Reuben

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Originally posted by BGathright
Your advice sounds too much like common sense. It can't be right.

Just kidding. Thanks for the reply.

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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

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Originally posted by Reuben
BGarthright...it’s all common sense but way back the litters of pups would be frustrating me...while 6 -8 weeks I could catch them and put them up and after a few more weeks they could out run me and then I would lose my cool and then I would get a little too harsh on them...thus a setback with them not trusting in me...

Thinking through the problem I realized what was happening...
But first I’ll explain why I was doing what I did...I fed them first and let them out immediately after they ate so they could empty out some in the yard before putting them up...this way the pen would keep a little cleaner...

The light bulb clicks on...if the pups are not hungry and they are having fun in the yard why should they want back in the kennel...I know I wouldn’t if I were a pup...

So I learned to let them out of the kennel and I let them play and learn while I cleaned the kennel...when playing they are working up an appetite...come time to put them up I call loudly as if I were calling them out of the woods and change the call now and then as they get older...as they come running I tell them to kennel as I give a hand signal...training and conditioning is very simple once we learn a few tricks of the trade...over the years I have learned to get by with the minimum training needed to get the most out of the pups...I still get on them as needed...but I keep it to where they trust me...

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