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Posted by fox_91 on 11-20-2016 05:28 PM:

Delete

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Posted by Lewis67 on 11-20-2016 09:00 PM:

Outsider

I have 4yr old I like Would also like to know of other Outsider dogs out there


Posted by fox_91 on 11-20-2016 09:21 PM:

His Pkc pup earnings are dismal.

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Posted by arkansas cooner on 11-20-2016 10:07 PM:

He's a coondog!! Hunted with him several times, but unfortunately from what a couple people that owned him has said.. He don't reproduce very well.


Posted by MIKE CARDER on 11-20-2016 11:21 PM:

How many

Pups does he have on the ground. How many are out of a quality female. Selectively picking a decent female makes a big difference. I have one that I'm trying to sell that was headed in the right direction but coyotes took care of that. I'm probably going to end up keeping him, just because I love his intensity. As far as PKC earnings, who gives a crap about that, I will never put a hound in a PKC hunt. So the numbers could be skewed there. .

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Posted by Kler Kry on 11-21-2016 12:19 AM:

Outsider Pups

My Grand Nt. Ch. Deventers Penney is out of Outsider. She is 5 years old. She is also out of Gr.Nt.Ch. Deventers Roxy. She won the Grandmasters last year and the first round this year. Made it to the zones 4 years in a row. She usually dominates a cast as she is an honest first strike and first treedog. Never seen her ran ahead of on any kind of a track. Strikes the first coon she comes to and trees it. I never hunted with her mother Roxy, but have been told that she was similar. The Outsider contributed half the DNA that Penney has so if he was crossed on a top female I'm sure he would reproduce. I've never hunted with the Outsider. The best part about Penney is that she is reproducing her ability. I have 6 month old double grandsons to her that are treeing their own coon. It was an accidental cross by littermates out of Penney. There is a lot of information under "Dogs and Pups for sale" on here under Deventers Penney. Duane Kreklow's Rocket dog got killed at a UKC hunt. He sent me a video of 4 month old Turbo treeing his first night in the woods. He is a younger brother to Rocket. I'd say the Outsider is a reproducer, but he can't carry the whole load.


Posted by fox_91 on 11-21-2016 01:24 AM:

Got all the info I needed, delete

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Posted by Cry Tough Blues on 11-21-2016 02:41 AM:

He still won the big one

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Posted by Kler Kry on 11-21-2016 01:47 PM:

PKC

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Originally posted by fox_91
His Pkc pup earnings are dismal.


PKC rules can be used to minus a cold nosed dog that opens drifts then opens again by a judge looking to eliminate the superior dog in a cast. Some judges view continuing a track as one that constantly open. Penney opens constantly on a hot track, but on a cold track she strikes quick opening about 3 times drifts opens again as she is trying to catch the coon.
I have a 5 month old Outsider pup that I'm raising as well. I don't know if Penney is typical of what Outsider is producing and I have been told that Penney takes after Outsiders mothers, Rose, more than the Fighten Side, Outsiders sire. Outsider also reproduces intelligent dogs with a strong desire to please and bond with their owners.

Hope this helps.


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