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Posted by johnny nipp on 08-31-2015 03:59 AM:

Titled English dogs?

Can ever titled male be a stud dog.I think the market is flooded with pups.What is everbodys take on this?

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Posted by terry_goforth on 08-31-2015 07:04 AM:

johnny

Well i breed five good females to my dogs and see if they are throwing what i like . If there pups dont show me what i want. Then they will never be bred again .

Posted by BCotton on 09-01-2015 04:44 AM:

I won't breed one till he makes Show Champion! Ha ha

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Posted by bloody creek on 09-01-2015 01:23 PM:

Johnny, to answer your question, NO, every titiled dog can be a stud BUT everyone of them should not be.... The English breed has been blessed the past few years, we have 3 standing World Champions that all seem to be reproducing well and many more that have won or placed high in some big hunts. They say winning breeds success and I believe winning breeds, "breeding", everyone wants a winner. I just spent some time with Doug Nester at his home in Mississippi, one of our conversations was how many differant litters you see on the board each week, it has been that way for the past few years. The question is "WHERE ARE ALL THE WINNERS OUT OF THOSE LITTERS" thats why every titled dog should not be a stud... Good Luck my friend.

PS: Very funny BRAD...

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Posted by mike thomason on 09-01-2015 05:39 PM:

STUD DOGS

If the Current and Historical percentages posted by UKC are the TRUE numbers that we judge by I'd say my chances of getting a good pup are just as good from a no name unadvertised stud as from a highly promoted well known one. Not knocking anyones dog just looking at numbers. I just bought a pup from a Pr. male and NtCh female I think his chances are as good as any to make a nice hound. He's Tapp bred top and bottom a Nephew to Aunt cross.

Posted by willard on 09-01-2015 07:49 PM:

I agree to some extent about showing up on a list and the winners circle but not everyone competition hunts .if we judge what a coon dog stud is by how many people put there dogs in a hunt and win then we are poor judges.

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Posted by johnny nipp on 09-01-2015 11:50 PM:

I got a gyp out of Dougs dog loud mouth !!

Posted by honalieh on 09-02-2015 03:50 AM:

Re: STUD DOGS

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Originally posted by mike thomason
If the Current and Historical percentages posted by UKC are the TRUE numbers that we judge by I'd say my chances of getting a good pup are just as good from a no name unadvertised stud as from a highly promoted well known one. Not knocking anyones dog just looking at numbers. I just bought a pup from a Pr. male and NtCh female I think his chances are as good as any to make a nice hound. He's Tapp bred top and bottom a Nephew to Aunt cross.

Couldn't agree more on this observation. It seems so obvious!!! When you see a dog bred to mostly Nite Ch. and Gr. Nite Ch. females, and the pups going heavily to competition hunters, and they still only produce 1 of 8 to 10 titled dogs (10.00%-12.50%) in an era of 5-10 dog local hunts, it's hard to be impressed by the numbers.

That said, over the 35-40 years I've been hunting, "most" of the "absolute best" that I've hunted with have been from World Ch. bloodlines.

Posted by johnny nipp on 09-02-2015 05:19 PM:

Yall guys are right on that is the point i was trying to make.JUst because there titled dont make them produce.You can grnite any dog that wil tree a coon.Local hunts on ever corner.Some dont draw two cast.win a cast you going to get a first or a second.

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