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Posted by TREESLAMMIN on 11-02-2011 05:06 AM:

sick dog

A friend of mine has two dogs that are passing blood in their stool and eating all the grass they can and puking grass and blood back up ,anybody have this happen to their dogs ....


Posted by EnglishBabe on 11-02-2011 10:00 PM:

Hook worm, treatment, 5 days of Safeguard liquid goat wormer. or a dose of Ivermic SubQ!

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Posted by JMollett on 11-03-2011 12:24 AM:

Sorry EnglishBabe, I have to disagree with you.
You shouldn't offer advice on someone else's dog unless you get more detail.
Don't Diagnose something until full detail is obtained.
You need to know how old this dog is. if it has had vaccinations for the parvo virus or carona virus.
If you deworm now and if it has one of those two viruses the shock of releasing the worms and bleeding could kill the dog quicker if not instantly.
If a dog has parvo or carona virus, never deworm.
If the owner says it is over a year old and vaccinated then you need to ask if it could of gotten into and poisoning, such as Anti-freeze, rat poison. If the owner hunted the dog in state land where coyote bait was put out.
If you deworm after a dog was poisoned the same thing could happen as with parvo.
If the dog is kennel and not poison is thought of, then you ask if the owner has someone mad at him/her. If the dog could of ate glass, or some sort of wire.
You should check to see if the dog has gotten shut in a door, twisted in a chain or fallen out of a tree, truck, etc..
Lot's of things can cause blood in the stools.
It can be as simple as worms or as difficult as parvo.
If none of the above is possible, then take a fecal to a vet and get a fecal done on the dog. or learn to do them yourself.
They can tell you which dewormer is the best.
I'm in school to become a vet, so precise is better.
Thanks and best of luck,
Jeremy Mollett Future DVM.

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Posted by EnglishBabe on 11-03-2011 07:14 PM:

Go back and read the original post...anyone ever had this happen? Yes, I have and told him what was found in my case.

#2: You are right that all those factors play into this...but I will tell you I have 25 yrs. experience in raising and treating dogs for many things, many, many things and experience tells me to go simple and then work up. Plus, YOU shouldn't be disrespectful when he asked a question and gets a possible answer and you jump all over me.

#3: Books will tell you information, agreed, but EXPERIENCE is also learned, mostly but trial and error and it stays with you a lot better then book learning. I am not a licensed vet, but dangit, I know a thing or two about animals and their health or lack of, so when you are done in your vet school and have 25 yrs. under your belt, then we will talk!

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Posted by JMollett on 11-04-2011 12:01 AM:

That's funny,
First I didn't jump all over you. I respect you trying to help this guys dogs out, but you could easily kill a dog with the wrong protocol if you don't ask questions.
I only stated questions. Nothing personal against you, just saying you need to ask more questions.
I understand experience means more than books. but you have to realize I'm an Intern and I get presented with some strange things through the day and if I personally DX something wrong I'm in big trouble, so it's more of a habit and I try to lead others as I am.
Thanks again, and sorry for the misunderstanding. I was just respectfully disagreeing with you.
Jeremy

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Posted by l.lyle on 11-04-2011 12:41 AM:

Funny how many of these sick dog things come up and I have never seen anyone list the temp. LOL.


Posted by Glenn Wells on 11-04-2011 12:55 AM:

Temp would be a good clue as what was happening, along with if stool is solid or splattered everywhere. If solid may be worms, if loose might be PARVO, and worming it will not help !

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Posted by l.lyle on 11-04-2011 02:21 AM:

I have lost them from parvo and coccidiosis. Both act the same way with the bloody stools. But mine would have been dead in the length of time we have been talking about it.


Posted by EnglishBabe on 11-04-2011 11:56 AM:

My theory as to why I suspect Hook Worms. Dogs are up and about, if eating a lot of grass. Parvo knocks a dog down fast, by the time you have the bloody stool, most dogs are down flat and most likely going to be beyond hope. Coccidiosis is possible, but there again, it takes a toll real fast and usually doesn't affect adult dogs like it does puppies. Although poison is another theory, if like rat poison that has the Warfarin in, then yes, that could be it too. My adult male had hook worm and the first thing I noticed on him was bloody stool, runny, bloody stool. Treated him for hook worm and he was good as new.

I do agree, without more info. We can't say much for sure. My first thought was hook worm, with more info. it might be different.

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