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hunt ?(night champion cast)

the hunt time is over dog A wins the cast. he comes treed right after the hunt is over and the judge/guide walks in with the handler and the dog is under an old grinner. is the hound scratched. would like a response from ukc on this one

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was he treed in before time was over?

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no

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cant minus him the hunt was over befor he treed so time ran out and he should get cercel points for the strick,IF THE RULES HAS NOT CHANGED

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Nite champion cast and it was in the presence of the judge....DOG IS SCRATCHED!!! NO EXCEPTIONS....read the rules boys.

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Originally posted by GRNT Coondawg
Nite champion cast and it was in the presence of the judge....DOG IS SCRATCHED!!! NO EXCEPTIONS....read the rules boys.

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hunt was over so how could the dog be scratched

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Page 51 in the rules says,
In Nite Champion and Grand Nite Champion casts, dog is scratched for running, treeing, or molesting off game during the authority of the Judge.

Just like if the dogs were to fight after the hunt time was up.

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Originally posted by Camopup
Page 51 in the rules says,
In Nite Champion and Grand Nite Champion casts, dog is scratched for running, treeing, or molesting off game during the authority of the Judge.

Just like if the dogs were to fight after the hunt time was up.

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It shouldn't baffle anyone. Two different situations, two different rules apply. Dogs that arrive at the tree AFTER THE JUDGE..... are not, under UKC rules, considerd to be treed.

Well for the sake of argument, if the hunt time is over then the dog isnt under the authority of the Judge.

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Originally posted by JiM
It shouldn't baffle anyone. Two different situations, two different rules apply. Dogs that arrive at the tree AFTER THE JUDGE..... are not, under UKC rules, considerd to be treed.

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..........can Todd or Allen put on here EXACTLY what time period constitutes "under the authority of the judge".....??

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Sam, authority of the judge is defined as starting when the MOH hands the card out and ends when the card is handed back to the MOH.

coondawg, you don't need Al or Todd to define it for you. The rulebook defines it. Rule #1, last two sentences. If you don't have a rulebook, you can find the rules on the home page.

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Originally posted by JiM
coondawg, you don't need Al or Todd to define it for you. The rulebook defines it. Rule #1, last two sentences. If you don't have a rulebook, you can find the rules on the home page.

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Originally posted by JiM
Sam, authority of the judge is defined as starting when the MOH hands the card out and ends when the card is handed back to the MOH.

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I have a dumb question. Is it manditory for the judge to shine the tree on all dogs that tree after offical time is up? If not why was he (judge) shining the tree? Sounds like a lose lose situation to me.

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There is nothing in the rules that says the judge even has to go to the tree with the handler when he retrieved his dog.

The moral to this story is: don't shine trees after the hunt is over

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coondawg, you are confuseing "scratched for fighting" with "scratched for aggressive behavior". To scratch for being aggressive, you must also have interference. However, if dogs fight, they are scratched flatout.

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Originally posted by JiM
coondawg, you are confuseing "scratched for fighting" with "scratched for aggressive behavior". To scratch for being aggressive, you must also have interference. However, if dogs fight, they are scratched flatout.

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Authority of the judge begins when the master of hounds hands the judge the card and ends when the judge hands the moh the card back

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Authority of the judge brings back a situation I'll never forget. Many years ago most hunters didn't have those good aluminum dog boxes. They were nailed together plywood and some were covered with thin aluminum sheeting.

A couple hounds were loaded in one of those plywood dog boxes. A dog fight broke out in the box. To make this story shorter the box just exploded in all directions. At the time this was real funny. The hounds were scratched and I don't know about the dog box.

First off i would take care of the card before i even went and got my dog. Once its taken care of i would go in, grab my dog, and not shine the tree. If i did shine the tree the judge would not be with me. Saves alot of argueing. Surely you cant scratch the dog after the time is over b/c you sure can plus them if there was a coon there. Jmo

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JONAH DUCKWORTH
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A coon dog isn't supposed to tree opossums. Stop trying to bend the rules to fit your untrained hound. Instead try bending a stick in a pleasure hunt.