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Posted by Family on 06-24-2008 09:55 PM:

Why Walkers?

Why in the coonhound bloodlines book do Walkers.. Dominate ? In the back of the book are the reproducers lists and the percentages are way off from the other breeds....Then looking in the PRP Sires there are currently 7 full pages of stud dogs available and the other breeds have 1, 1 1/2, maybe 2 pages at the most... I hunt with Walkers cuz thats what I've been sold as good coon dogs, all local sales have been on the up n pup( I hunted them..before I bought/traded). One friend told me if you can train a redbone to be a great coondog he's worth his wieght in gold ...?That might be a local thing... There are nice coon dogs of other breeds..Champions..yet the numbers game prove that the Walkers Dominate...What happened from a history stand point.?? intense breeding and culling?? What?

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Posted by Cole Adams on 06-24-2008 10:05 PM:

intense breeding yes, intense culling no.

Posted by burdette on 06-24-2008 10:10 PM:

all my buddys hunt walkers and ive owned a few and every other breed besises a red dog. but i prefer black dogs over them all. there is good dogs in every breed if you get one from good breeders. walkers start quicker then most pups which draw alot of guys to them. its all in what you like.

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Posted by Family on 06-24-2008 10:21 PM:

Black dogs=Plotts ,,,I imagine if so Plotts do not have enough reproducers to meet the current requirements to have 10 top dogs in the current reproducers listing. That really gets me there are not 10 dogs meeting the requirements...The topic " Will a blue dog ever win the world there is an article on a man named Capehart selling his dogs.....he says AMericans are the worst at reproducing canines...I understand its an Ad. Yet there is some truth there...SO Walkers...where selected and perfected....Worked at by Houndsman...One friend told me I got feed it everyday.....no ugly dogs....I got a mutt at home thats UGLY..but i feed him cuz there is no better sneaky watch dog then him.....Hes neuterd...

Posted by MikeO on 06-24-2008 11:55 PM:

jmo'....breeders have focused on walkers and improved the walker breed by leaps and bounds....i hunted blue dogs 20 years ago from what i recall everything was pretty even then....im no expert but it looks different now...we used to have guys hunting all different breeds around here but now when i go to a hunt its all walkers almost every time.

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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-25-2008 12:09 AM:

most like treedogs not all around dogs, those spotted one,s will get treed, ihunt with alot of them and have enjoy most of the time, but when i want to listen to the music, i take acoupe of these black dogs and set back and listen from start to stop and 2 looking down.

Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-25-2008 12:32 AM:

It would be nice to get an off Color dog, that would hunt like a Walker. LOL

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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-25-2008 12:54 AM:

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
It would be nice to get an off Color dog, that would hunt like a Walker. LOL

your welcome eny time,but we are talking about treeing coon, not how many mile they will go right? there are a lot of good dogs in this part of the country,& of all breeds, i respect them all, have hunted most all of them, it,s the owner,s most time that are color blind.

Posted by burdette on 06-25-2008 02:17 AM:

i have 3 black dogs that hunt as hard as walkers but also tree coon behind and infront of walkers. i will admit that i went thru a few pups to get 3 that please me. but there is good hounds in every breed if you get one from a good breeder.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-27-2008 01:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
your welcome eny time,but we are talking about treeing coon, not how many mile they will go right? there are a lot of good dogs in this part of the country,& of all breeds, i respect them all, have hunted most all of them, it,s the owner,s most time that are color blind.

Fellow, I tried, and spent alot of money on the other breeds, raised pups, bought dogs, and even talked bad about Walkers until I owned one.
Black and Tans, would usually run any trash they came across, and if you found one that could tree a Coon, it would cost you a fortune, and you still have to worry if you see a Deer, in the spot your turning loose, Blueticks were usually mean and backtracked, not to mention Boot and Bawl for ever.
Redbones, well at least here in Texas, they just love Armidillos and not much else, English would trail for miles and miles without even treeing, and to be honest Ive never seen a Plott tree in my life. Im just gonna stick with Walkers. They are just better, and if anyone wants me to raise and put my time in any other breed of hound they will have to pay me!!!
I would however like to try this

new Leapord Hound, but where the heck are they? [IMG] http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/.../1188656017.jpg[/IMG]

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Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 02:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Nethery
Fellow, I tried, and spent alot of money on the other breeds, raised pups, bought dogs, and even talked bad about Walkers until I owned one.
Black and Tans, would usually run any trash they came across, and if you found one that could tree a Coon, it would cost you a fortune, and you still have to worry if you see a Deer, in the spot your turning loose, Blueticks were usually mean and backtracked, not to mention Boot and Bawl for ever.
Redbones, well at least here in Texas, they just love Armidillos and not much else, English would trail for miles and miles without even treeing, and to be honest Ive never seen a Plott tree in my life. Im just gonna stick with Walkers. They are just better, and if anyone wants me to raise and put my time in any other breed of hound they will have to pay me!!!
I would however like to try this new Leapord Hound, but where the heck are they? [IMG] http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/.../1188656017.jpg[/IMG] http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/...=Multimed-2.jpg

larry has some real nice black dogs . maybe you need to go to ky and take a hunt . im a walker man my self and thought the same thing intill i met larry and he show me that he had some nice black dogs.

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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-27-2008 02:53 AM:

you know there are all makes of trucks, all kind of food, i don, tell men what to drive& i don,t tell enyone what to eat, so hunt what you want , just don,t knock what i hunt this is the USA so we can do D_ _ n WHAT WE WANT.

thinks jay and got the worst ain,t got the best, not afaird.
my so call buddy up there won,t answer his phone ha ha.
guess you haveihg a good time, going with rambo tonight.

Posted by MikeO on 06-27-2008 02:58 AM:

i aint knocking any mans breed....but look at whats winning in all the big hunts time and time again.....it aint no accident.

Posted by Sandburr on 06-27-2008 03:13 AM:

So let's all be a copy cat, and own a walker

Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 03:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
you know there are all makes of trucks, all kind of food, i don, tell men what to drive& i don,t tell enyone what to eat, so hunt what you want , just don,t knock what i hunt this is the USA so we can do D_ _ n WHAT WE WANT.

thinks jay and got the worst ain,t got the best, not afaird.
my so call buddy up there won,t answer his phone ha ha.
guess you haveihg a good time, going with rambo tonight.

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Posted by Family on 06-27-2008 03:15 AM:

ok ya'll know about it..lots about it..and there are champs..But when the dogs first hit the country they did not tree coons...cuz where they came from there where no COONS....yet we Americans trained and raised em to tree Cooons....or we tried I have a walker that is a doofus...wouldnt sell him for the world cuz hes mine....Now in all honesty he'll split tree...he'll smell the coon moving through the trees.. ya know how they move.. he can hear em and smell em and hes treeing running on the bank looking at where hes thinks they are....now thats prolly 65% of the time... the rest of the time I'm tellin him to getr the heck away from me.. or waiting for him to come back from chasing a deer...But hunting season hes AWSOME thas about the 65%..he 90% in season..maybe taste does something for him...and every night hunts.

But..How did the Walkers get to the top..based on stats in a book...true...I still wonder..Intense breeding and intense culling ...JMO.

Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 03:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeO
i aint knocking any mans breed....but look at whats winning in all the big hunts time and time again.....it aint no accident.

what color dog is wining the PURINA RACE

Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-27-2008 03:25 AM:

jay i tred calling late to day. not going with allen dogs have kennel cofe. how did d.t. dog look& pulp.

Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-27-2008 03:33 AM:

i bet there are a lot more that ain,t winner then is. i say when a man has to compare is dogs to what someone else has got, it is time to change.

Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 03:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
jay i tred calling late to day. not going with allen dogs have kennel cofe. how did d.t. dog look& pulp.

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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-27-2008 03:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
CALL D T TOMMROW HE CAN TELL YOU

jay call my home phone i am still up

Posted by MikeO on 06-27-2008 03:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
what color dog is wining the PURINA RACE

it was a black female but i aint looked to see in awhile....its a good thing that walker that won last yr aint in it again....27 out of 30 now thats consistency....i sure would like to hunt with him and see how he goes.

Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 03:58 AM:

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Originally posted by MikeO
it was a black female but i aint looked to see in awhile....its a good thing that walker that won last yr aint in it again....27 out of 30 now thats consistency....i sure would like to hunt with him and see how he goes.

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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 06-27-2008 04:09 AM:

i think theFELLOW from E.T. needs to hire a trainer, don,t think i would want to pay someone thats had all that truble training dogs. lol take a joke it,s fun.

Posted by ringtail on 06-27-2008 07:12 AM:

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Originally posted by MikeO
jmo'....breeders have focused on walkers and improved the walker breed by leaps and bounds...

agree for most part...... breeders have focused on breeding and improving the competition walker, which is not always the best coondog.... yes the great ones shine through, but there a whole lot more culls.... i've hunted everything but redbones, I have found that for competition the walkers are hands down, if u have the money & want to win the big hunt..... if u just want to compete & win ur fair share of the regular hunts, then go with what ever breed u enjoy.... i prefer to hide hunt w/ the bue dogs, although I have seen some dang accurate english dogs as well as black dogs..... JMO

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