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Posted by Bobby Stevens on 01-18-2014 09:36 PM:

Lets talk SOUP

I will be watching more closely this time when Annie comes in season... I will not be doing much traveling to breed her...this may be a problem when it comes time?? With that being said the big ?????
What to breed her too? she is a nt ch gr ch and has money won in the other kc
Huey x Reckon = Annie
she is getting older coming 8 in spring still in great shape and can and will be in front of most dogs on tracks but does not like fussing or crowding around a tree could be my fault for hunting her in to many hunts?
i'll be watching this one closely i would prefer that the sire be perf and ss but is not a must

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Posted by OLD TIMER on 01-18-2014 10:17 PM:

IF I had her---

And lived where you do, Mr Kelly Hyde would be where I would try and find an Uncle or Nephew to her.

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Posted by OUTLAW REDBONE on 01-18-2014 11:22 PM:

Bobby

I looked on the map and we are only 2hr and 30 min from each other. If there is any thing I can do to help just let me know. A drop point, breeding, ride.

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Posted by masonman1974 on 01-19-2014 12:21 AM:

NiteCh.RealDeal Ramblin RED

honest,loud,hunts hard and don't stop,treedog,got his picture took first time he had a chance by taking 3rd in cuba mo. O yea sry. mr. but Red is in front....this aint no quick to bark bucket dog ,big country ,thin coon,Red will impress and if he is anything like his handler was, he will love them older females....lol.......2 year old [jabo pup]

Posted by on 01-19-2014 01:23 AM:

Bobby

Let me know when you get her bred regardless of what too, wouldnt mind getting a pup!

Posted by Mike Stewart on 01-19-2014 03:14 AM:

Locked and Loaded Pistol or Locked and Loaded Jake. Both are Grnt's and both are coondogs. Pistol's ped looks like this

................nitech pr yellow river red doc
............nitech pr Krasa sawblade quick stuff bone
................grntch pr sawblade fiddle
GRNTCH LOCKED AND LOADED PISTOL
................nitech pr Jones' yellow river sand rock
.............nitech pr locked n loaded pebble
................grntch pr nighty nite josey

Jake's ped looks like this

................nitech pr yellow river red doc
...........nitech pr krasa sawblade quick stuff bone
................grntch pr sawblade fiddle
GRNTCH LOCKED AND LOADED JAKE
............... grntch pr sioux river jj junior
...........pr sawblade beans
................nitech grch pr red cedar t-top lexus

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Posted by on 01-19-2014 04:31 AM:

I'd say Jake

Mike and Bobby, I'd say Jake would cross well on Annie considering Reckon and Bone were brother and sister, but I'm being just a little bit bias

Posted by Richard Lambert on 01-19-2014 03:20 PM:

Bobby if I were you, I would give Mr Hyde a phone call. He is the expert on these hounds. Put he is a pretty good ways from you. When does she usually come in heat?

Posted by oklared on 01-19-2014 03:40 PM:

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Posted by jdgher on 01-20-2014 01:11 AM:

Steve-O

Steve-O is where I would go. Keep a female pup. Later down the road take your female pup back to Sawblade stuff.

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Posted by Highwater on 01-20-2014 01:30 AM:

ANNIE??????

Mr Stevens I have a half sister to Annie. My female was a Rocker X Reckon.That was the last litter out of reckon.I bred my june female to Locked N Loaded Jake.I did that to stack Doc X Fiddle three times in a four gen. Ped.I kept a male nephew to Annie.Im not going to breed june again. I got what i was looking for a great pup to work with.I would like to sell my june dog and let someone elts breed her.The pistol dog was on my list.And Oklared brings up two good ones. I have not had the chance to hunt with john or train but they got my attention. Good luke with Annie.

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Posted by Larry D Walker on 01-20-2014 02:02 AM:

Re: Lets talk SOUP

quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Stevens
I will be watching more closely this time when Annie comes in season... I will not be doing much traveling to breed her...this may be a problem when it comes time?? With that being said the big ?????
What to breed her too? she is a nt ch gr ch and has money won in the other kc
Huey x Reckon = Annie
she is getting older coming 8 in spring still in great shape and can and will be in front of most dogs on tracks but does not like fussing or crowding around a tree could be my fault for hunting her in to many hunts?
i'll be watching this one closely i would prefer that the sire be perf and ss but is not a must

I STILL HAVE REBEL SEMEN, ADD A LITTLE BEEF TO YOUR SOUP!!!!

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Posted by Bobby Stevens on 01-20-2014 09:52 PM:

I don't know when she comes in im horrible with that stuff I never write it down or keep up with when they come in im around them everyday and they are on concrete so I just go by when I see blood in there kennel
I like all the ideas everyone has it sure makes for some consideration
keep the ides comiiing

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Posted by Brian Ratliff on 01-20-2014 10:01 PM:

Mr Bobby

You ever thought about B3 Semen? I think that would be a good cross & I'd sure like to have 1..

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Posted by l p w on 01-21-2014 01:46 AM:

annie

I would probably bring her to crossville if I were you bobby old bill or roy or jack jack would love to see her . They might not sell but I bet they would tree coons.

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Posted by richard turner on 01-21-2014 02:23 AM:

I would go to white pine and breed her to poacher

Posted by Sawblade on 01-21-2014 02:50 AM:

crazy ideas

If your going to stay close to home you'll have to decide.
Steve O may work good. Those pa dogs should work also. Jake, Pistol ,Truck but I would also consider Sandy Creek Jake semen if it's available. There is a big dog from Illinois that does a bunch of winning also what's his name ?? Boone...Boone that's what you may want to try. That would be an interesting pedigree.

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Posted by jdgher on 01-21-2014 08:26 AM:

Better yet

Bobby,
Ask yourself, what traits you would need to improve on Annie. So you can win even more $ with the next one :-). Then find out which stud would throw those traits. Time flys, do what it takes to get what you need, you won't have this option forever.

Posted by jkhutch on 01-21-2014 05:58 PM:

Re: crazy ideas

quote:
Originally posted by Sawblade
There is a big dog from Illinois that does a bunch of winning also what's his name ?? Boone...Boone that's what you may want to try. That would be an interesting pedigree.

Just saw this post. Kelly, you are close, Boone is from Indiana

. About a half an hour from Illinois. I beleive Bobby and I hunted together with Annie a couple of years ago at Reddog days in Brazil when Boone was younger. I think I had just made him night champion a few days before and was lucky enough to get to hunt with Bobby and Annie. We had a good hunt I believe.

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Posted by Sawblade on 01-21-2014 07:05 PM:

location ,location

Thanks for the correction sorry about the mix up..

All I can say is if you take the time to look at what the pedigree would look like if these two dogs got crossed it would be a perfect example of a SUPERCROSS.

You have a barn full of top reproducing crosses.
Rat / Raven
Pepper / Kate
CD / PepperAnn
Twister / Music
Doc / Fiddle
Huey / Reckon
Rocky / Maggie
Bomber / Bell
Rabble Rouser / Red Wire

no holes in the pedigree as far as I can see.

Posted by on 01-21-2014 07:24 PM:

Re: Re: crazy ideas

quote:
Originally posted by jkhutch
Just saw this post. Kelly, you are close, Boone is from Indiana . About a half an hour from Illinois. I beleive Bobby and I hunted together with Annie a couple of years ago at Reddog days in Brazil when Boone was younger. I think I had just made him night champion a few days before and was lucky enough to get to hunt with Bobby and Annie. We had a good hunt I believe.

jkhutch I believe me and Jake were on that cast too. And if I remember correctly all three dogs hunted good together and we did have a Great night of hunting! Boone was pretty young when we drew out with Annie wasent he?

Posted by BUCK MTN KENNEL on 01-21-2014 07:38 PM:

Bred her back to shooter that cross produced the best young dog I've ever been in the woods with. Shooter put the drive in then.

Posted by jkhutch on 01-21-2014 07:52 PM:

Re: Re: Re: crazy ideas

quote:
Originally posted by Iron_Creek
jkhutch I believe me and Jake were on that cast too. And if I remember correctly all three dogs hunted good together and we did have a Great night of hunting! Boone was pretty young when we drew out with Annie wasent he?

I beleive you are right Corey. I think Annie won are cast didn't she? Boone was 28 months old at the time. We did have a fun cast that night with some great company. Those good cast stick with me. I try to forget the bad ones

Posted by Bobby Stevens on 01-21-2014 08:55 PM:

awesome cast it was super hot and we got lucky we had jared and jack in that cast also any of which I wish she was bred to or should have been bred to each one after that all true sportsmans cast that night
thanks matt I had to cross her on shooter but don't know about the second cross thing
keep em coming guys like I said I will not travel far maybe I should be looking in a different way of leasing or just letting somebody take her and raise pups and I get half of what they sell for and a pup or something like that???
annie needs a cast win to go over 2000$ in pkc earnings but I will not try to push to any higher titles she is to old I will be looking for something younger to hunt that can and will win

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Posted by Larry D Walker on 01-22-2014 12:23 AM:

Annie

quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Stevens
awesome cast it was super hot and we got lucky we had jared and jack in that cast also any of which I wish she was bred to or should have been bred to each one after that all true sportsmans cast that night
thanks matt I had to cross her on shooter but don't know about the second cross thing
keep em coming guys like I said I will not travel far maybe I should be looking in a different way of leasing or just letting somebody take her and raise pups and I get half of what they sell for and a pup or something like that???
annie needs a cast win to go over 2000$ in pkc earnings but I will not try to push to any higher titles she is to old I will be looking for something younger to hunt that can and will win

Is she a full littermate to Bubba

Bobby can you post maybe 3 generation ped on her.

If she is littermate to bubba dean has that ped on his thread.

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