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chaps my a#%

well this has been eating me up ever sice i returned the call when i got out of my welding classes tonight guy called me my dads freind james whos daddy taught eddy salter to turkey hunt had a guy needing a dog trained well james must of talked me up good since he has seen five dogs leave my hands and go back to their owners well the guy calls me and he says how much will you have to have to get my dog to treeing its own coon night in night out i said 5000 dollars he flipped his cap and said i thought i was told you was good i said ive been told but im not braggen i just do what the pup needs he said ill find someone who can for cheaper and faster i wish people would under stand the 150 to 200 you are pissen away on someone that trained two pups now they are an expert will learn real trainers not callen myself one only get the dogs started i charge based on what i hear from the owner about the pup guys that train dont finish the dogs out all they do is start the pup the way it needs to be and if the pup dont start well most of the time the pup aint ready it happens but this guy thought i could have a dog running and treeing its own coon every night in a month a pup that has never been imprinted right when it was in the litter a pup that wasnt taught from day one and expect me to do it cheap as dirt and have a dog that could go into hunts when he pics it up most dogs aint ready at 2 years old to enter hunts a dern 8 month puppy sure the hell aint i was tought by top houndmens mr house was one of them my brother and him were nice freinds he is the one who told me the way of breeding being an art and why most fail and only few succeed and im srry for vinting but this guy has got me fired up its crazy how some guys who own dogs are stupid if a dog can be trained and ready for the hunts in one month then sign me up for two whole litters

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Although I don't train dogs for the public I understand exactly where you're coming from. The people who charge $200 are basically just putting the dog in the woods in my opinion. Let's say the trainer takes the dog 20 times. That comes out to $10 a hunt. A man can't pay for the gas he uses in his truck / fourwheeler at that price. People forget that the cost of housing a dog for month isnt cheap either. I have argued this topic with close friends before that wanted me to hunt / train for them. Training starts as a puppy where manners & obedience are instilled in them. Heck some times it takes a month for the dog to warm up to ya so you can handle it. There's no way $10 a night or $200 a month is worth the headache of chasing another man's dog in the wee hours of the night because you can't catch it. In reality if a man is looking for some one to actually " train " his dog, let's face it, most of the time there's serious issues with the dog if it wasn't they wouldn't be looking for a trainer. Beside that look at the time the trainer is taking away from his dog to work with another man's. Just a few of the reasons why I agree with you.

I see your point and completely agree with you but even I think 5k is a little steep.

People like this have no idea what goes in to training a dog I've had people offer to pay me to train their pup i refuse to it do these kind of people want a world beater for 200 bucks in three weeks

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5000 dollars to start a pup?

Well, atleast now I will know better than to waste my time clicking anything you ever post again........

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Did u mean 500?

Cuz if u want five grand to start a pup keep the business u have had that's not what most would pay

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$$$$$$$$$$WHAT$$$$$$$$$$$

5000 YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS.

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Originally posted by JiM
5000 dollars to start a pup?

Well, atleast now I will know better than to waste my time clicking anything you ever post again........

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Seems high priced to me too. $5,000 can buy you a stud dog.

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I just would like people to use periods and comma's when their post's are long. my head hurts tring to read that.lol

At first I thought it might be a typing error, thought maybe $500 which I could see but now I starting to wonder if it was a typo. I was trying to poke a little fun at slobbermouth. Outback 1 you were talking about comma's and periods, you may want to look into spell check (just kidding).

$$$$$$$$$$ what$$$$$$$$$$$$

$ 400 x 13MONTHS = $ 5,200.00

$ 400.00 a month is a fare price....IF SOMEONE SENT ME A PUP READY TO START.. AND IT AINT GOING TO TAKE ME NO 12 OR 13 MONTHS TO GET IT CLICKEN.....FACT IS AFTER ONE WEEK YOU CAN COME GET IT IF I FEEL IT IS NOT WORTH PUTTEN THE TIME AND MONEY IN AND IT AINT GOING TO COST YOU BUT $ 100.00 BUCKS..

DOG TRAINER IS A TITLE SOME LIKE TO PUT ON THEM SELFS AND TAKE CREDIT FOR JUST PLAIN OLD GOOD BREEDING..

DOG TRAINER I AM NOT , I AM A HUNTER.....

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Pup started in feb,wins first hunt in nov. 10 months x 500=5000. Most likely not a mature FINISHED dog either.just one capable of winning or placing in comp hunt. Add entry and gas money and in all reality,5000 is close to what the owner will end up paying.

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i know i'm not going too pay $5000 for a fully trained dog let alone pay that for just starting a pup

some so called trainers charge $300.00 a month to train in a coon training facility, pen.
the facilities or pen consist of a coon in a cage trap. should'nt be hard to find 1 in there. LOL i've known people spend $1500 in 5 months, and when they got their dog back, starved and not hunted

I THINK THE FELLA WAS TALKING ABOUT FINISHING THE DOG WHICH COULD TAKE A WHILE, 16 mths X $3OO about $4,800 or
24 mths x $200 about the same.

Heck ,I thought I was going to read about a bad pair of Hunting chaps!!

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Im just charging $4999. So yall send em on.

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Re: chaps my a#%

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Originally posted by slobbermouth21


the guy calls me and he says how much will you have to have to get my dog to "TREEING IT'S OWN COON NIGHT IN NIGHT OUT"
i said 5000 dollars

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Most if not all of the pkc champs and Gr Nite s I've hunted with could be bought real easy for 2000.00 or less. Why of earth would anyone pay you 5000.00 to TRAIN a pup that MIGHT not make it anyway. Can you say complete dumba$$. And if you expect me to believe that then you are smokin crack!

To answere someone's question ill be 22 in a few months started being taught and handlen dogs when I was five by the time I turned 9 I was going out behind the house hunting dogs and trained my first pups by myself usen a four wheele to get around and yes I told him 5000 I wasn't meaning you should pay it but like one guy said something prolly wrong with the pup and that's true and that's the reason I said 5000 because he was more then likely gonna have to leave that dog at my house for six to nine months that cuts int. My dogs times in the wood plus gas,feed,vet,vet,vet,vet dern vets ain't cheap dog breaks his leg I'm out of 300 befor I even get him there but most of the time I charge based what I see about the pup but he wanted a coon treeing machine so you get what you pay for add it up you buy a pup 100 to 500 then pay the vet bills buy the dog food fill ole Betsy up with gas to go back and forth to hunt.

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i knnow what you guys are saying i charge right under 400 and i dont make much money off of it it just pays for gas and i like to hunt pups hunting an old dog just gets boring to me once you hunt a dog so long you learn what every bark it makes means and it just gets boring thats why i hunt pups its exciting and i guarantee mine get put in the woods but to my point not everyone trains dogs for money i do it cause its fun and exciting to see a pup succeed

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I don't do it for the money eather but I'm not gonna do it to break even or go in the hole! And I would of went in the hole big time if I charged 500 and the guy wanted a finished dog not started a finished dog I was pretty much gonna have to house and feed this **** eater for six to nine months and he still not be what the guy wanted although I'm sure I could of got him treeing but for all I know this guy tryed to train this dog to young and messed him up want be the first one I've seen and I'd have to read that dog see what he needs what he is tellen me and he might just tell slobbermouth I ain't doing s%*# I don't want tobe a coondog.

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Been foolen with walkers since I was five be
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If my time is worth anything, I prolly had at least 5000 in some that I sold for 2 or 3 thousand. lol

Sometimes dealing with the public isn't worth 5000.

A man that writes a monthly ad on a female, lol, sent me a young female out of a highly advertised litter to finish into GRNITECH. When the leaves came off and I refused to take her to a hunt, because of slick treeing, he told me " She is out of .........." I said
" I don't care what she is out of, she slick trees way too much." He said, " She is out of ............, she does not slick tree." He then asked me to just go to the hunts and try to skimp by and get her wins. When I refused, I was the most worthless person on earth because I told the man the truth. Sometimes 5000 is way to cheap. lol

Like the Old Grampa telling his Grandson ,,,,Tried to tell ya,,,,lol ,,Bobby is telling the truth on this boys .

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What are you talking about vet bills?

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