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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-08-2013 12:33 AM:

Repeat cross Banjo3 X Hiedi

Looks like there may be a chance to compare the 1st litters 5 titled dogs to the 2nd cross.

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-08-2013 12:34 AM:

Click on the pic above to see a couple off the 2nd cross

Also i want to add that this cross is from Frozen Semen. This litter could very well be the current day "test" on the repeat cross discussion. And the effects of frozen semen. Thanks for reading

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-08-2013 12:47 PM:

question

Can Richard tell me who is in this video? These repeat crosses are a hot topic. I'm very suprised there haven't been any comments. I know these pups are a ways out from being Titled in a hunt, just tought I'd add that my pup from this cross is a loud intense tree dog. I'm keeping up with 6 pups from the 2nd cross. Looking good so far

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Posted by Derek Metzler on 03-08-2013 05:39 PM:

i hear good reports as well. time will tell

Posted by Preston Owens on 03-08-2013 09:55 PM:

Derek

quote:
Originally posted by Derek Metzler
i hear good reports as well. time will tell

I'm excited about mine, she is loud and acts as good as anything I've ever raised. She likes to mess with grinners but that's not an issue at this point with her age being 7mths. I like seeing a loud hard tree dog @ 7mths old. I think Heidi will see some huge #'s on the reproducers list in the near future!

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Posted by 54tsmith on 03-08-2013 09:59 PM:

preston

i know who that guy is. mine is loud she hasnt been started as we have had alot of snow this winter .

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-08-2013 10:13 PM:

Re: preston

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Originally posted by 54tsmith
i know who that guy is. mine is loud she hasnt been started as we have had alot of snow this winter .

Todd, That feller was pretty excited the 1st time he let them find a coon. I can see why, they look good!

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Posted by Have One Reds on 03-09-2013 06:25 PM:

Mine is smart and confident. Very nice 7 month old; he has cat feet and a huge mouth. We had a rough winter and no conditions to train a pup. I don't start dogs this early, anyway, but had him out for the exercise. Didn't see him until the other dog checked in. That's a good sign...although, too soon to tell.

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-09-2013 09:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Have One Reds
Mine is smart and confident. Very nice 7 month old; he has cat feet and a huge mouth. We had a rough winter and no conditions to train a pup. I don't start dogs this early, anyway, but had him out for the exercise. Didn't see him until the other dog checked in. That's a good sign...although, too soon to tell.

I don't start mine until they get upwards of 1 year, I had my pup loose and she nailed a possum all alone. I called Rex and let him hear her

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-09-2013 10:05 PM:

yep

I think all mine would tree at 6 to 7 mths old but I don't like the "puppy" in them at that age, I've found thru my experiences that they do better older. I figure if one is doing it all at 1.5 yrs old that it can wait till its 3 to prove it. I'd rather it be mature and somewhat seasoned b4 it gets introduced to the night hunts, I see folks hunting 1yr olds that aren't even treeing yet. I just can't do it myself.

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Posted by In Redman Hound on 03-10-2013 12:08 AM:

Re: yep

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Originally posted by Preston Owens
I think all mine would tree at 6 to 7 mths old but I don't like the "puppy" in them at that age, I've found thru my experiences that they do better older. I figure if one is doing it all at 1.5 yrs old that it can wait till its 3 to prove it. I'd rather it be mature and somewhat seasoned b4 it gets introduced to the night hunts, I see folks hunting 1yr olds that aren't even treeing yet. I just can't do it myself.

PRESTON YOU ARE 100% RIGHT IN MY BOOKS.AT 1.5 YR. OLD THEY NOT BEEN DOWN ENOUGH TRACKS TO BE A COONDOG READY FOR THE NIGHT HUNTS.THEY MUST BE A PUPPY BEFORE THEY CAN EVER BE A COONDOG !

IM OLD SCHOOL I WAIT TILL THERE 3 AND PUT THEM IN THE HUNTS OR MAYBE A MONTH OR 2 SHY OF 3.

THERES MORE YOUNG DOGS MESSED UP IN THESE NT.HUNTS THAN WE WILL EVER KNOW, I KNOW GUYS THAT GET THEM EAT UP AND AFTER THIS HAPPENS THERE 1.5 YR. OLD DOG DONT WANT TO TREE WITH ANYTHING ELSE THEY ARE HUNTED WITH.

BUT I DONT OWN THEM SO IF THEY WANT TO HUNT THEM HAMMER DOWN DONT SAY I NEVER TOLD WHAT CAN HAPPEN.

JUST THINK IF U WAIT TILL HE OR SHE IS 3 WHAT AND HOW MUCH MORE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO WIN BECAUSE HE OR SHE HAS HAD 2-3 KILL SEASONS PUT ON THEM THEY BEEN TO SCHOOL A LITTLE MORE @ 3.

JMO

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-10-2013 03:35 AM:

Eddy

I agree completely, we both know they can win younger but I see no point in putting one at risk.

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Posted by In Redman Hound on 03-10-2013 09:25 AM:

Re: Eddy

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Originally posted by Preston Owens
I agree completely, we both know they can win younger but I see no point in putting one at risk.

YOUR RIGHT PRESTON GOOD ONES ARE HARD TO FIND, IF U GET ONE NO REASON TO MESS THEM UP AT A EARLY AGE.

Posted by tylerman on 03-10-2013 01:51 PM:

Sounds like they are going to be goodens...knockers for sure.

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-10-2013 02:54 PM:

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-14-2013 12:02 PM:

pups

They are looking more promising daily.. One in northern IN found a coon while running loose. Locked DOWN on it... 2nd cross is looking very good

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Posted by Derek Metzler on 03-14-2013 05:30 PM:

tell me more about this!!

Posted by Preston Owens on 03-14-2013 09:48 PM:

derek

Hold on lol this pup was running loose and "found" a coon that had been set up for him. I hear he flipped out over it which is no suprise to me. These pups from what I hear are special. Time will tell. I could be wrong about them but I don't think so, time will tell. The one up that way surely will make it. He has one of the very best upbringing.

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Posted by Sawblade on 03-14-2013 10:52 PM:

I think

I think I'll hunt with a Heidi pup tonite. They are nice.

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Posted by Sawblade on 03-14-2013 11:27 PM:

It's

It's an armadillo without any armor....Possum around here.

Posted by Preston Owens on 03-14-2013 11:43 PM:

Re: It's

quote:
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It's an armadillo without any armor....Possum around here.

CORRECT! They make it hard on the young dogs.

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-14-2013 11:51 PM:

just some thoughts

I don't want anyone to take my post wrong, I believe in these "Banjo" dogs, its not just Banjo but that type of dog. These look promising. I hope they all make good dogs, but I will be the 1st to say on here that its very early to draw an opinion on this 2nd cross. Those that know me know I get "fired" up over these dogs! I'm by no means trying to take away from anyones opinions or make out like these are the only thing out there. What fires me up is the volume,willingness to find game and to be looking up and treeing this early on is really exciting to me. I hope that this post I'm making sets it all clear for everybody. I'm excited but the story will unfold on this cross with miles and tired feet. I hope they have it!

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Posted by jdgher on 03-15-2013 01:16 AM:

Grinners

10 Years ago Herb Vaughn shared some important information with me. He knows how to stop the dogs from treeing Grinners. I tried it ever since and it works great. Call him and get the fix. You won't believe it will work, but it does. Prevously I tried many other methods and had no lasting success. First step you'll need to wear a seed corn cap (gimme cap or ball cap) coonhunting. Herb can supply the rest of it.

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Posted by Preston Owens on 03-15-2013 02:50 AM:

Herb

He has told me.lol That man is one of my Best friends..

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Posted by David Cathey on 03-15-2013 04:28 PM:

WHAT?

REPEAT CROSS? NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT AT ALL.

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