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Posted by BradD20 on 10-12-2015 11:30 PM:

Will it hurt her?

I've got a 6 month old b&t female that I've been working with a little. I haven't done much besides show her one caged coon and she went crazy over it and she treed it when I cut it loose. The other night I let her go with my buddies English dog and she went with him and barked once he struck on track and she barked a little on tree. The tree wasn't but 150 yards from where we cut them at. Would it hurt to keep letting her run with him as young as she is?


Posted by dchartt on 10-12-2015 11:53 PM:

Id single her out right now if she showed shes capable of doing that

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Posted by msinc on 10-13-2015 12:06 AM:

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Originally posted by dchartt
Id single her out right now if she showed shes capable of doing that


+1

Why take a chance of having the other dog teach her something you might not want...especially if she started that easy on the first try. Don't get me wrong...the other dog may be fine, but you really don't know and sometimes a very good dog can start acting funny around a young one.


Posted by BradD20 on 10-13-2015 12:10 AM:

That's a real good point. I wouldn't call him a real good dog, he probably isn't the best pup trainer. I just had her out and was surprised when she kicked leaves in my face and went right in there with him. That answers my question though, I'll start taking her out alone and let her figure it out on her own rather than risking her learning some bad habits


Posted by Jason Baldwin on 10-13-2015 05:39 PM:

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Originally posted by BradD20
That's a real good point. I wouldn't call him a real good dog, he probably isn't the best pup trainer. I just had her out and was surprised when she kicked leaves in my face and went right in there with him. That answers my question though, I'll start taking her out alone and let her figure it out on her own rather than risking her learning some bad habits


Sounds like you got a great prospect. Yes, hunt her by herself right now.

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Posted by Rocketman55 on 10-14-2015 03:34 AM:

Well your pup is only 6 months old and it sounds to me like this may have been her first trip to the woods at night. And yes it sounds like she will be easy to start BUT the recommendations to immediately pull her by herself and start hunting her by herself may (or may not) be the best thing to do. Probably none of the folks that recommended putting her by herself have ever hunted with the dog you hunted her with. So without more information it would be hard to say what is the right thing to do.

I will offer the following possibility that you just might create by hunting her by herself.

#1- She may get to running tracks and leaving trees because she doesn't have the confidence to stay on a tree unless she seen the coon run up it. At least until you get a few coon on her. Something to consider

#2- She may start running Junk when she gets bored from not being able to successfully tree a coon.

#3- How would you know what she is running when you have no check dog with her??

These are just a few things you need to consider before pulling her by herself. Now the other folks thoughts have some merit if that dog you hunted her with is mean at the tree, junky, tree jacker etc. But if its not, then it just might do her some good to follow a dog that will take her straight to a coon track, and actually tree a live coon on a consistent basis, so that she can get even more aggressive at hunting, tracking, and treeing.

Just some thoughts to consider before pulling her by herself. Ultimately its your decision, cause you have a better idea of the caliber of dog you are hunting with. Cause we sure don't.

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Posted by msinc on 10-14-2015 12:09 PM:

All good points Mr. Mayles...he did get a lot of short answers. There is so much to training a young dog. Personally, at the point I get them started, I like to also hunt them a lot during the day. Depending on the pup I usually spend more time in the woods in daylight, when I can see what is going on, than I do at night. For most of us this is probably the best answer to your point #3. It is rare to have a check dog even for an experienced trainer....half of us never see the luxury, the other don't need it or don't realize it when we do.
New trainers just don't understand that one or two nights of "free racing" on junk can take a very long time to stop, if it can be stopped at all. What makes it worse is when they work with a dog or two that is naturally not junky, then get a hold of one that will turn hair gray.


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