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Posted by Jared Luttrell on 12-24-2012 06:58 AM:

How Deep

How deep you all like your hounds hunt alone or with company?

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Posted by MojoMan82 on 12-24-2012 11:59 AM:

deep

i want mine to go to they get treed. and they better have grease sitting up when i get there!

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Posted by CoonBusterWV on 12-24-2012 12:09 PM:

Re: deep

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Originally posted by MojoMan82
i want mine to go to they get treed. and they better have grease sitting up when i get there!

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Posted by Jack Bingham on 12-24-2012 03:40 PM:

Re: deep

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Originally posted by MojoMan82
i want mine to go to they get treed. and they better have grease sitting up when i get there!

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Posted by LIL-E on 12-24-2012 03:43 PM:

Posted by john Duemmer on 12-24-2012 04:05 PM:

Deep as necessary, but i hate when they get deep in a straight line.

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Posted by Bill(Chew) on 12-24-2012 04:06 PM:

I've had both and I would rather have a dog hunt thirty/fourty five minutes and come back. A dog can cover a lot of ground in that time. Most of these dogs hunt a location really good. Many DEEP hunting dogs run a straight line and by-pass many coon. There are a lot of places you can not safely hunt a dog that will not come back.

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Posted by Dirtdevil on 12-24-2012 04:10 PM:

I don't want them to get out of the section , run cowtrails or creeks just to be running them or anything like that .... if I cut loose into a bottom or section of woods , all I want is the dog to hunt that couple hundred acres out and come back if he aint struck to do it somewhere else.... I don't like a dog getting into the habit of making me chase him or drive around where I don't wanna be ...

Whether you drive around to find the dog or drive to a new spot with the dog in the box aint no different really .... except to some people's' ego.

Dogs that are consistantly striking deep and getting out of sections are just loaping down creeks and trails until they hit a hot coon anyway ... or have been trained that way , if you got the elbow room to hunt like that then it's cool ... but just call it what it is .

Posted by HuckFinn on 12-24-2012 05:57 PM:

He needs to hunt out the area he's in before heading to Mexico. He needs to try to move the first track he finds. Straight-line hunting is a stupid, troublesome trait. Dogs that hunt out the area and check in are just smarter.

Posted by Jared Luttrell on 12-24-2012 05:58 PM:

Yeah I like one get gone till treed as we'll buy hurts u in hunts. But I got one that will hit a creek in a holler and work it back and forth all way down but got one here now hunts about .80 tenths to a mile and will turn abound and come back. But alone will hunt a patch good and if need will get little deeper but usually not over 800-900 yards. Is that good or bad?

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Posted by walkerdog1 on 12-24-2012 06:05 PM:

intill they get hooked with the meat alone and perfer they be split when with company.

Just because they go till they get hooked dont always mean that they are deep or loafing.

I dont like a straight line dog but i dont wont to look at them intill im pulling them from a tree.

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Posted by ssgied on 12-24-2012 06:16 PM:

I like a dog to hunt out about 30 mins. in a circle. A dog that goes until it gets treed leads to dog huntin' instead of coon huntin'. Around here in fairley thin coon, a go yonder will be out of garmin range in a hurry and you might find him about day light, cause you can't drive around and listen, you have to walk and listen.

Posted by stsjts on 12-24-2012 06:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ssgied
I like a dog to hunt out about 30 mins. in a circle. A dog that goes until it gets treed leads to dog huntin' instead of coon huntin'. Around here in fairley thin coon, a go yonder will be out of garmin range in a hurry and you might find him about day light, cause you can't drive around and listen, you have to walk and listen.

I agree dog hunting stinks! Ive did my fair share this year, I wish i had a 30min circler. No advantage to going a mile to tree a coon. In competion a dog that circles always seems to get the job done.

Posted by garminguru on 12-24-2012 07:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bill(Chew)
I've had both and I would rather have a dog hunt thirty/fourty five minutes and come back. A dog can cover a lot of ground in that time. Most of these dogs hunt a location really good. Many DEEP hunting dogs run a straight line and by-pass many coon. There are a lot of places you can not safely hunt a dog that will not come back.

X2 but 15-20 minutes suites me fine as well! You can't run fast enough to give me a dog that goes to the next county without checking in!
Really though, if we think about it, your coon population could have alot to do with how deep you want your dog to hunt. I could probably tolerate a go yonder hound more if I was typically hunting places that a coon could be struck in the first 400-500 yards but that is mostly not the case for me.

Posted by J.R on 12-24-2012 07:29 PM:

until he trees the first coon he comes by

Posted by Rob Reid on 12-24-2012 09:24 PM:

Going 100 mph

I prefer mine to stay within hearing but if that is not possible, deep as necessary to tree a coon. Most importantly, I want them hunting on the run, I hate a slow hunting hound.

Posted by ringtail 3132 on 12-24-2012 10:53 PM:

dog

People that dont like a deep hunting dog are just lazy and afraid to have to walk any distance close hunting dogs are time waisters

Posted by DICK B. on 12-24-2012 11:12 PM:

When I was young and hunted in the hunts, when my dog left the tail gate, I didn't want to see him again untill he was under a tree. Now that I'am older and can't hear to well I hate a dog like that. lol Thats why I hunt curs and norwegians now.

Posted by GA DAWG on 12-24-2012 11:52 PM:

Go,Go,Go!!!

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Posted by Rocketman55 on 12-25-2012 01:46 AM:

Here where I live I prefer a hound to hunt in about 5,6,to 7 tenths of a mile and swing left or right and hunt back to me from a different direction than where they left me. I usually strike a track in 500 yards or less but occasionally my dogs will have to go 800 to 900 yards to strike.

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 12-25-2012 02:08 AM:

Re: dog

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People that dont like a deep hunting dog are just lazy and afraid to have to walk any distance close hunting dogs are time waisters

I don't think lazy is the right word. I have hunted all types and for the most part a true coondog should have a track struck with in thirty minutes of hunting if they really are hunting and not running to get away from another dog. Two of the best I ever had were different then night and day. My male hunted on the run and smoke most on a track and was deadly accurate. The female hunted an area methodically and would tree coons other dogs ran past and was also accurate. If I want to go hunt an hour and come home I took the female. If I wanted to hunt hard and fast then the male was in the box. Cut them together and tree one to the left and one to the right or you may get one together and in a hurry. All part of the fun. Everybody likes a little something different. I think the guys hunting straight line dogs or dogs that try to be alone all the time are missing out on a lot of fun and true speed and accuracy competition. If you really want to see who has the fastest track and tree dog put them in a large area with just a few coons where they have to try and beat one another to strike a track and get it treed accurately. Just my opinion because I like to see the dogs compete neck and neck together not in four different directions.

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Posted by Dale Young on 12-25-2012 02:54 AM:

I like a busy dog . If I can't hear it I don't enjoy it .

Posted by garminguru on 12-25-2012 03:41 AM:

Re: dog

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail 3132
People that dont like a deep hunting dog are just lazy and afraid to have to walk any distance close hunting dogs are time waisters

I think you are just very presumptuous and inexperienced. If you have hunted any at all you would know that if someone has a dog that will hunt at all, deep or close, the lazy people coon hunting will not last long.
I promise you, I will cover any ground you will so come on up here to the home of the highest peak east of the Mississippi and we will see how lazy I am!

Posted by l.lyle on 12-25-2012 05:18 AM:

Re: Going 100 mph

quote:
Originally posted by Rob Reid
I prefer mine to stay within hearing but if that is not possible, deep as necessary to tree a coon. Most importantly, I want them hunting on the run, I hate a slow hunting hound.

I agree to a point. Let me elaborate on what you said and please correct me if I am wrong. On a crisp night I can hear my dogs about a mile and a half. On a breezy night I can hear them about a quarter mile. I prefer mine to Strike ( to heck with how far they hunt or trail or run) within hearing. If they get out of my semi deaf hearing to STRIKE, and I need to wean down, that one STRIKING out of hearing will be the first to go on the selling block.. Once struck I expect them to trail and run anywhere, no matter how far. Where I hunt a dog can go 6 miles northwest bound before he hits a road that liable to have tarfiic, 8 mile Northeast to a farm to market road, If he goes southeast he will end up in Africa. If he goes southwest its 9 miles to a farm to market road and 12 miles to a major road if he can swim that far. I still cannot stand a go yonder idiot. It is utterly ridiculous to have a dog just go. I get SH-----n and might turn out a decent dog from that drop and have him STRIKE within a couple hundred yards. That's when I KNOW who is FOR SALE. But that's OK. I can sell him to somebody as a real GO Getter Split Treer LOL for twice or maybe 10X the price of his worth, depending on how you look at it. I have pretty thick coons on most nights.. It's very seldom one comes back without striking fairly close. One night I turned out two dogs on a couple of acres that had not been burnt off that same afternoon. one dog came back in 30 minutes the other I tracked down 3 miles away still hauling it down a fireline. Guess which one stayed and eventually died in my pen.

Posted by Chris Herring on 12-25-2012 05:34 AM:

With the roads around me I prefer a dog to hunt out about 400 to 600 yards, if they do not strike I want them to check back in so I can try another spot. Coons are not the most plentiful here but roads and subdivisions are everywhere, if they do not get struck in 500 yards or so and treed within 1200 yards I might be scraping them off the road...
Call me lazy if you like, but I like my dogs to die of old age not road rash.... :-)

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