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Posted by Carl Fox on 08-10-2009 02:24 PM:

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Posted by Virgil on 08-10-2009 03:31 PM:

The only way to know for sure is to hunt it here in the hills and see what it does. I've got an uncle in Michigan so I've had some experience with dogs going from north to south and vice versa.

I have noticed when bringing dogs back down here that he has hunted for a while up north that they sometimes take a couple nights before they start to look good and sometimes they hunt good from the first night out.

If it's a coondog it should adjust and be able to do fine.

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Posted by josh on 08-10-2009 03:44 PM:

I have read enough on here to now understand there are no coondogs in the North, they are all in the South.

Heck, how hard is it to tree a coon when there is one up every other tree?


Posted by Lakeland Kennel on 08-10-2009 04:02 PM:

I believe it would depend on the bloodlines and the traits of the dog. If the dog is out of hard hunting,colder nosed, track dog stock, it might take a few hunts to get used to the change, but they would do OK. If the dog is out of closer hunting, hotter nosed, tree dog stock, they may never get used to the change. The coons are thick in Northern Indiana, a dog doesn't have to hunt deep, a hot nosed dog can make alot of strikes, and a tree minded dog can still tree a lot of coon. How many slick trees would you climb a mountain to find a dog slick treed?

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-10-2009 04:20 PM:

Well my buddy just sent one back north a couple weeks ago..He was supposed to be a good un up there..He was CRAP here..He had no clue how to hunt here...I watched him on gps..He hunted crazy...Now,all that might have worked for him up north but not here and he didnt adjust either...You better try that dog in the south before you you buy it!!

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Posted by Priscilla Hooks on 08-10-2009 04:42 PM:

We purchased a dog from someone up NORTH last year. We bought her without trying her based on the guys word and reputation. But his word was based on what she was doing UP there! Paid a HUGE price for this dog and while she is doing great now it has taken us 1 year of hunting the hair off her to get her doing well in the south!!! She might have done well in thick coons - he claimed she treed 11 in one night and had pics and videos to prove it - but down here she couldn't even find a coon much less tree it. When we talked to him later he admitted them 11 coons were in ONE head!! Are you kidding me!! We own 120 acres and probably don't have 11 coons on the whole place! So if you ask me - no way in *!^* would I buy a dog from up north ever again unless I plan on moving there! And never again will I ever buy a dog without trying it in MY woods no matter what the price!

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Posted by coontreeingal on 08-10-2009 05:10 PM:

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Originally posted by josh
I have read enough on here to now understand there are no coondogs in the North, they are all in the South.

Heck, how hard is it to tree a coon when there is one up every other tree?

. THATS THE TRUTH HAHA!!!

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Posted by DSKennels on 08-10-2009 05:11 PM:

I bought dog from Minnesota. The firt time I took him out he did what I wanted him to do and did it right. End of discussion.


Posted by Todd24 on 08-10-2009 05:43 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by josh
I have read enough on here to now understand there are no coondogs in the North, they are all in the South.

Heck, how hard is it to tree a coon when there is one up every other tree?
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Bring that coon dog up to MI. and lets see what you got.
Heck I hear there was a Blue dog up here from Tenn. winning a ton of money and could not even tree a coon at Michigan Madness.

Maybe there's more coon down there than you think too, Your dogs just can't show you them.? think about that. l

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Posted by bassmaster1228 on 08-10-2009 06:14 PM:

i have a 4 year old bluetick that was raised, trained, ect. in Ohio the people i bought her from brought her down here... she hunt just fine. and trees coon too!

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Posted by Priscilla Hooks on 08-10-2009 06:28 PM:

Buying any dog from any where for any price without first trying that dog in the area in which he will be hunting for you is just NOT wise. We did it and have learned a valuable lesson from it. My advice is simple - never buy a dog without trying it out first. What pleases one man (or in my case - woman) may not please another...................................

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Posted by Jim Hill on 08-10-2009 06:32 PM:

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Originally posted by DSKennels
I bought dog from Minnesota. The firt time I took him out he did what I wanted him to do and did it right. End of discussion.
well put i bought a dog from northern ark. and he came up here and did great, i have bought 3 dogs from down south and the other too sucked, so it goes both ways, IF IT IS A TRUE COON DOG SHOULNT MATTER WHERE YOU DUMP THEM JMO!!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-10-2009 06:35 PM:

Just go hunt it..These northerners on here dont understand...

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Posted by Justin_Cox on 08-10-2009 06:39 PM:

Todd24
Bring that coon dog up to MI. and lets see what you got.
Heck I hear there was a Blue dog up here from Tenn. winning a ton of money and could not even tree a coon at Michigan Madness.

Maybe there's more coon down there than you think too, Your dogs just can't show you them.? think about that. l

you are welcome to bring your dogs down here and prove how good they are in our mountains.
I guarantee you that there is not many coons down here where I live at, to many people shoots them all year round. the best I seen in one night was 2 coons. but as far as buying a dog from the north I use to think the same way about they wouldent do any good down south, but the truith is, it may take it a little time but is it is a coondog, then it woulden't matter where it hunts at.

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 08-10-2009 06:48 PM:

Tired ole crap!

I have sold dogs down south all the way to Florida with no problems. I have also seen down south dogs up here look good and I have seen some big winners down there I would not own up here.

Fact is there are many hounds out there that suit me, but there are also just as many that don't. Whether or not you like a hound has much to do with personal preferences. Forget the north vs. south crap ... hounds are hounds and some will suit ya and some will not.

9 times out of 10 it really pays to hunt a dog several nights before you buy it, and that is still not a fail safe method either.

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Posted by Priscilla Hooks on 08-10-2009 06:52 PM:

I forgot to mention in my previous post - but we just purchased a dog from South Carolina. We got to take the dog back to our place and hunt him before we bought him and he did great. Now SC is not far from GA so I suspect if was not much different for him. He finished to NITECH in 4 hunts with TWO 1st places and ONE 2nd. Kinda backs up what I was saying. A dog that was already in the south did just fine but one that we bought for big $$ and brought down here took 1 year to make a coon dog.

Opinions are like............and everybody's got one. I am sure there are outstanding dogs that will excel no matter what but I am speaking on OUR experience and based on OUR experience I would never again buy a dog without trying it out in MY woods where we have thin coon!!

Good luck with whatever you decide.

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Posted by Todd24 on 08-10-2009 06:59 PM:

I will guarentee you my dogs will get treed in the south, and us up here do understand. You won't very seldom pick my dogs up other than on a tree. They go huntin or they go bye bye!

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Posted by ESTEP on 08-10-2009 10:13 PM:

A coons a coon they all smell the same. I've hunted all over and treed coon everywhere I went.


Posted by byersboy86 on 08-10-2009 10:17 PM:

Northern NH

Up here in NH we always wonder what are dogs would do in the south?? our dogs have to hunt hard up here to find coon they go deep to im talkin a few miles before the open on track. we even run them in the winter with 4 feet of snow on the ground and they still put coon up. i wish i had the time and money to take a trip down south to tryem out down there and answer the question.. or how would a southern dog do up here having to hunt hard for coon would they do it or would they return to you and say might as well go home Boss aint no coon up here

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 08-11-2009 02:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ESTEP
A coons a coon they all smell the same. I've hunted all over and treed coon everywhere I went.


thats right they might not be a 100% for a week.
the dogs from the south have to adjustice to fertlize
and pestiside.dogs from the north have to learn to
stay on the water.


Posted by bluetickcooner on 08-11-2009 03:14 AM:

ON SOME NIGHTS I COULD OF SWORN THAT A COON COULD TURN ITS SCENT OFF!

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Posted by Virgil on 08-11-2009 03:37 AM:

In my experience more dogs have trouble looking good when going north rather than south. That may sound strange to some but the reason I say it is this. Here in the hills a dog may come across only one or two coon tracks all night and only have one coon to track at once. Up north in really thick coon a dog will get cut into a patch of woods and there may be ten or more coon in those woods laying tracks in all directions. A dog not used to all that coon scent everywhere will sometimes struggle with settling in on a tree or track. Not all dogs but some.

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Posted by jculler8 on 08-11-2009 05:34 AM:

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In my experience more dogs have trouble looking good when going north rather than south. That may sound strange to some but the reason I say it is this. Here in the hills a dog may come across only one or two coon tracks all night and only have one coon to track at once. Up north in really thick coon a dog will get cut into a patch of woods and there may be ten or more coon in those woods laying tracks in all directions. A dog not used to all that coon scent everywhere will sometimes struggle with settling in on a tree or track. Not all dogs but some.


THAT IS EXACTLY IT!

Dogs that hunt thick coon a lot look for the HOTTEST track and run and tree it. Dogs that are used to taking the 1st track they come across have trouble or the others tree 2 before they tree 1! haha

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Posted by buddy2009 on 08-11-2009 05:50 AM:

i hunt

several states and my dog is a COON DOG any where you turn him thin coon or thick coon.but in cliff country they got to learn them and the right way or they are over the cliff dead.start them on the bottom and let them learn how to get out of the cliffs then they are ready for the top and they can tree them any where. and hunt on lots of WATER AND FENCES then you will have a coon dog and speed and nose is important. thats just how i do it good luck. cull hard because they all dont make it. and i did not learn this from walk with wick i learned it following a coon dog for 33 years of it in the woods and of that 33 years probably 25 of it 7 nights a week.


Posted by lightning1 on 08-11-2009 05:59 AM:

I quit duck hunting in the 80's because the flyway moved west along the Missouri river instead of the Mississipi. I couldn't imagine hunting a 100 acre timber with 2 coon in it. You guys are diehard. I like a couple coon per acre.


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