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Ever heard of this one??

Ever heard of somebody getting an out of season ticket because a game warden heard you say if you had seen it you would have shot it??

It wouldn't stand up in court.

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Originally posted by The Seeker
It wouldn't stand up in court.

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Thats what we thought. A buddy of ours got an out of season ticket for saying he would have shot the coon if he had found it. So ya'll watch what you say out of season.

What State and County was that? Well, What Country first?

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Originally posted by l.lyle
Absolutely right. What is the charge? Saying something? I thought this was still the remnants of a free country with freedom of speach.

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Don't make any difference if he got a ticket or not. Go to court and fight it, bet the warden will walk out or not show up. Either way case dismissed.
You cannot be convicted of a crime if one wasn't committed. Couda, wouda, shouda doesn't cut it.

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FIRE ARM

WAS HE IN POSSESION OF A FIREARM? IN ILL. YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE ONE IN THE TRUCK DURING TRAINING SEASON. WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL TICKET WRITTEN FOR? IF HE HAD A GUN IN POSSESION, THAT IS PROBABLLY THE ACTUAL TICKET AND WHAT HE SAID DIDN'T MATTER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, JUST PART OF THE STORY. <v>

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Originally posted by jodaviess1
WAS HE IN POSSESION OF A FIREARM? IN ILL. YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE ONE IN THE TRUCK DURING TRAINING SEASON. WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL TICKET WRITTEN FOR? IF HE HAD A GUN IN POSSESION, THAT IS PROBABLLY THE ACTUAL TICKET AND WHAT HE SAID DIDN'T MATTER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, JUST PART OF THE STORY. <v>

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Originally posted by jodaviess1
WAS HE IN POSSESION OF A FIREARM? IN ILL. YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE ONE IN THE TRUCK DURING TRAINING SEASON. WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL TICKET WRITTEN FOR? IF HE HAD A GUN IN POSSESION, THAT IS PROBABLLY THE ACTUAL TICKET AND WHAT HE SAID DIDN'T MATTER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, JUST PART OF THE STORY. <v>

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Originally posted by Billy Beckham
You can carry a unloaded gun in your truck anytime in Illinois. If you know something different than I do please let me know. I would make d@mn sure that thing stays in the truck at night though.

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Originally posted by Bill Starnes
Billy you are right I just checked with Benton office about a month ago.

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I would say your only getting part of the story, any game warden in his right mind would know that this would not past muster with any prosecuting attorney. Remember the prosecutor has the last say, he decides whether or not to file the charges. You hear alot of this kind of nonsense on the internet, sad part is most leave out the part of them having a loaded gun in the truck, or other violation. If it is true all he has to do is take his side down to the prosecutor before it ever goes to court. I used to be a reserve deputy and spent quite of bit of time riding with a federal game warden, I never saw the guy get out of line, but heard and seen every story in the book why they though they weren't breaking the law.lol If people were honest with him, he would often give them a break, once they started lying and covering up it was all over. It's always law enforcement's fault, no one is capable of a violation. I knowingly violate the code by carrying a handgun during training season, but I'm willingly to take the fine if I can't reason why I carry it, but I don't kill out of season unless a dog catches one on the ground. I carry it for self protection, too many idiots,meth heads out at night in this country.

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Originally posted by The Seeker
Don't make any difference if he got a ticket or not. Go to court and fight it, bet the warden will walk out or not show up. Either way case dismissed.
You cannot be convicted of a crime if one wasn't committed. Couda, wouda, shouda doesn't cut it.

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Originally posted by BlueMoonJake
I would say your only getting part of the story, any game warden in his right mind would know that this would not past muster with any prosecuting attorney. Remember the prosecutor has the last say, he decides whether or not to file the charges. You hear alot of this kind of nonsense on the internet, sad part is most leave out the part of them having a loaded gun in the truck, or other violation. If it is true all he has to do is take his side down to the prosecutor before it ever goes to court. I used to be a reserve deputy and spent quite of bit of time riding with a federal game warden, I never saw the guy get out of line, but heard and seen every story in the book why they though they weren't breaking the law.lol If people were honest with him, he would often give them a break, once they started lying and covering up it was all over. It's always law enforcement's fault, no one is capable of a violation. I knowingly violate the code by carrying a handgun during training season, but I'm willingly to take the fine if I can't reason why I carry it, but I don't kill out of season unless a dog catches one on the ground. I carry it for self protection, too many idiots,meth heads out at night in this country.

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Recon you might whip out your little special Id saying you are a RESRVE DEPUTY, what ever in the H that means to get you off by being in the IN CROWD ? HUGH??? No , we know you would never stoop so LOW. BS.

My kids were in preschool . I said I will check them out Friday because we will go to the Orangeburg Fairgrounds` to see the Garnd American, She said I hope you will reconsider, We had planed to take the children Friday to the Fire Department. They will recieve the new Stainless steal Firetrucks and have lectures provided by the fire Department.

I am thinking back to when I was brainwashed withthat kind of stuuff so iasked her? How about new stuff? you know you are smarter thanme because you and I graduated together and you got Magna *** Laude and I barely got out of the institution. she axed , What? and you got a fre ride through College to get a BA in Education and it took me ten years to get a BS including three hundred hours of Lab time with minimal credits per hour served. And Let me see? Now you want to indoctrinate my kids to be Government servants? and hold their head uphigh ? are you kidding me? She said you just do not know that they will be your servants , They will be your Masters. She was honest way before her time.

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Originally posted by l.lyle
My kids were in preschool . I said I will check them out Friday because we will go to the Orangeburg Fairgrounds` to see the Garnd American, She said I hope you will reconsider, We had planed to take the children Friday to the Fire Department. They will recieve the new Stainless steal Firetrucks and have lectures provided by the fire Department.

I am thinking back to when I was brainwashed withthat kind of stuuff so iasked her? How about new stuff? you know you are smarter thanme because you and I graduated together and you got Magna *** Laude and I barely got out of the institution. she axed , What? and you got a fre ride through College to get a BA in Education and it took me ten years to get a BS including three hundred hours of Lab time with minimal credits per hour served. And Let me see? Now you want to indoctrinate my kids to be Government servants? and hold their head uphigh ? are you kidding me? She said you just do not know that they will be your servants , They will be your Masters. She was honest way before her time.

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l.lyle- those so called reserves are your good ol' rent a cop !
This does sound like what might happen when a brand new, gung ho type gets his first little job as a gamewarden. Probably right out of the MP's and used to pushing enlisted folks around ...

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A little off topic but a buddy of mine got a ticket from our local warden because his pen didn't work when he was checked deer hunting.the ticket was written for not being able to properly fill out his tag

l.lyle, How many cases have you taken to court? How many cases have you taken to court and won?

Now don't go getting your boxers in a wad, I agree that we should fight more of these tickets rather than pay the fine and move on. I was just curious.

Loyd McIntire

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Lyle, what I'm saying is that there are some good people out there in uniform, sure there are bad apples in anything, I know coon hunters that are good law abiding hunters and I know some that break every game law there is, even some who were caught stealing baby calves by putting them in their dog box. It isn't right to dump them all in the same category, hell, around here if we didn't have a game warden we'd have most game poached out in my area. You must not understand the legal system, the prosecutor can either decide to take a ticket or charge to trial or dismiss it, and here you can bet your hiney the officer will be there in court when the case is heard.
Nobody is ever guilty it seems, these guys just go around dreaming up crap to hassle hunters,,,,,,,roflmao it's always the same story on most forums, their are three sides to every story, the offender's, the officers and somewhere in there the truth. The guy is far from an a hole as you put it, the guy hunts, fishes and coon hunts like the rest of us, he just does his job as fair and square as it can be done, it's a thankless job, especially when guys like you think they are all government lackies. Kids being brainwashed by the fire department?, what a thought process. I guess us guys who served our country in the military are just government indoctrinated lackies/servants.

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Originally posted by BlueMoonJake
I would say your only getting part of the story, any game warden in his right mind would know that this would not past muster with any prosecuting attorney. Remember the prosecutor has the last say, he decides whether or not to file the charges. You hear alot of this kind of nonsense on the internet, sad part is most leave out the part of them having a loaded gun in the truck, or other violation. If it is true all he has to do is take his side down to the prosecutor before it ever goes to court. I used to be a reserve deputy and spent quite of bit of time riding with a federal game warden, I never saw the guy get out of line, but heard and seen every story in the book why they though they weren't breaking the law.lol If people were honest with him, he would often give them a break, once they started lying and covering up it was all over. It's always law enforcement's fault, no one is capable of a violation. I knowingly violate the code by carrying a handgun during training season, but I'm willingly to take the fine if I can't reason why I carry it, but I don't kill out of season unless a dog catches one on the ground. I carry it for self protection, too many idiots,meth heads out at night in this country.

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Originally posted by BlueMoonJake
Lyle, what I'm saying is that there are some good people out there in uniform, sure there are bad apples in anything, I know coon hunters that are good law abiding hunters and I know some that break every game law there is, even some who were caught stealing baby calves by putting them in their dog box. It isn't right to dump them all in the same category, hell, around here if we didn't have a game warden we'd have most game poached out in my area. You must not understand the legal system, the prosecutor can either decide to take a ticket or charge to trial or dismiss it, and here you can bet your hiney the officer will be there in court when the case is heard.
Nobody is ever guilty it seems, these guys just go around dreaming up crap to hassle hunters,,,,,,,roflmao it's always the same story on most forums, their are three sides to every story, the offender's, the officers and somewhere in there the truth. The guy is far from an a hole as you put it, the guy hunts, fishes and coon hunts like the rest of us, he just does his job as fair and square as it can be done, it's a thankless job, especially when guys like you think they are all government lackies. Kids being brainwashed by the fire department?, what a thought process. I guess us guys who served our country in the military are just government indoctrinated lackies/servants.

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I didn't say all of them were good, read the post. Their are good and bad folks in all professions, in your case justice was served by a judge with common sense. I'm just saying there are also some good ones out there that use common sense, to say they are crooked is way off base. The one I know will even tell the judge in his opinion a guy was killing a deer to feed his family if he truly thinks it is the case, asking the judge to fine them court cost only and keep it off the record, but if he thinks your out killing them just for taking racks he'll hang your hiney.