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Posted by madtomatoz on 03-05-2012 03:26 AM:

grade hunts .

what happened to the grade hunts of the 60s and 70s .on fri nites . and club officers getting fur buyers to come to them wen coon r n season ? grade hunts use to draw alot of hounds .

Posted by wildbill on 03-05-2012 03:45 AM:

not any titles/hardware on the line for the newbys to hunt for..
i think they can have them if you get enough people to sign up for one ,,but most of the old timers are dead or too crippled up to have a old fashion coondog hunt,most people are interested in getting them titles so they can brag on their nitehunt dog..

you should have been with us when we hunted in the snowstorm last week,,

dogs did a good job ,too bad the coons had holed up on us,lol

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Posted by Boone McCrary on 03-05-2012 03:52 AM:

wouldn't be awful for some clubs to offer a grade hunt as a side hunt for some on the same night of a nite hunt, thats the way they used to do alot around here......many registered dogs have been hunted in grade hunts as well

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Posted by k-9 on 03-05-2012 07:31 AM:

Wild Bill you are always bashing nite hunts and titles however the only people who bash nite hunts and titles are the ones who have never won one .

Posted by wildbill on 03-05-2012 01:18 PM:

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Wild Bill you are always bashing nite hunts and titles however the only people who bash nite hunts and titles are the ones who have never won one .

OR THE ONES WHO SEEN WHAT GO'S ON THERE

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Posted by JiM on 03-05-2012 01:53 PM:

I can't think of enough grade dogs around here, that could tree a coon, to make up one cast. I suspect it is that way about everywhere anymore. Hardly anyone keeps a grade dog these days.
Any club can have them anytime they want to schedule them.

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Posted by groworg1 on 03-05-2012 02:24 PM:

my first hunt was a grade hunt won first place dog was a registered blue tick that was given to me the guy i got him from said i could have his papers if i made him a coondog needless to say i did get his papers and he was a great coondog all this in 1974 when hunts were 3 hours you didn't have to win cast to place in a hunt today 2 hours and must win cast to place 2 or 3 cast at local level you could come in 1000+ but if you don't win your cast you come home with no points and they wonder why no one shows up !!!

Posted by Cowboyred on 03-05-2012 02:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I can't think of enough grade dogs around here, that could tree a coon, to make up one cast. I suspect it is that way about everywhere anymore. Hardly anyone keeps a grade dog these days.
Any club can have them anytime they want to schedule them.

As stated above, plus most clubs can't afford the loss of guides and judges to have grade casts even if they did come to hunt.
As far as fur buyers go, there are so few of them left in business anymore that they can dictate where they want to be and when they want to be there. Good luck getting one of them to alter his route and schedule.

Posted by smokin-1-mo on 03-05-2012 03:04 PM:

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE A GRADE HUNT OR OWN A GRADE DOG....THIS IS NT THE 70S....BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT...

Posted by JiM on 03-05-2012 03:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokin-1-mo
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE A GRADE HUNT OR OWN A GRADE DOG....

Your question purty much answers itself. Almost nobody wants a grade hunt and almost nobody has a grade dog anymore.
If they did, they would. Simple as that.

Posted by II Chance on 03-05-2012 03:18 PM:

THE GRADE HUNTS

THATS WHATS I AM MISSING, I NEW SOMETHING WAS REALLY DIFFERENT. Since most of the really good hounds I owned back then, I hunted Grade on Friday nights. THe Good Old Days.

Posted by kycooner1 on 03-05-2012 03:20 PM:

Our club has a hunt the first Monday of each month..any dog can enter,,,we hunt UKC nite hunt rules ,,90 minute hunts ,,can win a cast without plus points.10- dollar entry.. the member that has the most cast wins out of 8 hunts wins 500 dollars ,,2nd place anyone that entered in at least 6 hunts goes in for a 200 dollar drawing. We have this hunt right after our monthly meeting ..good way to get members to show up.

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Posted by plentyofpossum on 03-05-2012 06:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokin-1-mo
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE A GRADE HUNT OR OWN A GRADE DOG....THIS IS NT THE 70S....BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT...

Actually I won't own a registered dog. All I will own is grade dogs. I can't rightly say registered dog owners are doing much good for the over all well being of coonhuting. Not that i'm interested in either type of competition hunting. But grade doesn't always equal pot licker. I've had much better luck over the years with grades than spending tons of money on supposed good blooded pups. To each his own.

Posted by john Duemmer on 03-05-2012 06:36 PM:

Back when i started the grade dogs could compete in UKC. hunts. I think they quit because it didnt look good when the grade dogs had high scoreing dog of the hunt. Usually in my area if you wanted to spectate on a cast with the best you went with the grade cast, those guys had no reason to be there unless they were leading the real deal...

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Posted by Cowboyred on 03-05-2012 06:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
Back when i started the grade dogs could compete in UKC. hunts. I think they quit because it didnt look good when the grade dogs had high scoreing dog of the hunt. Usually in my area if you wanted to spectate on a cast with the best you went with the grade cast, those guys had no reason to be there unless they were leading the real deal...

Yes, but........there was frequently some shall we say "liberal", "creative" and sometimes downright dishonest scoring done as well.

Posted by plentyofpossum on 03-05-2012 07:00 PM:

Cowboy- that's what is happening now.

Posted by Cowboyred on 03-05-2012 07:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by plentyofpossum
Cowboy- that's what is happening now.

True but, the liberal and creative scoring was moreso a product of ignorance. The out and out dishonest stuff then or now is what it is.

Posted by groworg1 on 03-05-2012 08:00 PM:

paper never treed a coon just makes it a rich man sport!!!!!!

Posted by JiM on 03-05-2012 08:02 PM:

You actually been to a UKC nite hunt lately? Ever? Rich men? What a laugher that one is.

Posted by smokin-1-mo on 03-05-2012 08:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by plentyofpossum
Actually I won't own a registered dog. All I will own is grade dogs. I can't rightly say registered dog owners are doing much good for the over all well being of coonhuting. Not that i'm interested in either type of competition hunting. But grade doesn't always equal pot licker. I've had much better luck over the years with grades than spending tons of money on supposed good blooded pups. To each his own.

IF YOU GOT A GRADE DOG TODAY SOMEONE LOST THE PAPER....

INT THE 70S PEOPLE WHERE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY TILL EVERYTHING WAS REGISTERED NOW YOU WANT TO BACK TRACK...

Posted by LonePineHounds on 03-05-2012 09:00 PM:

Our club held an open event last year. Advertised it pretty well locally. We had 5 dogs on the bench, 4 dogs in the field trial and 4 in the nite hunt. We had 1 grade dog show up - a cur that left after the bench show. I don't think we'll have anymore open events.

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Posted by madtomatoz on 03-07-2012 05:54 AM:

if were not bak tracking , then why are alot of ppl paying to breed a great jyp with 40yr old seaman . or 15yr old seaman ?

Posted by smokin-1-mo on 03-07-2012 07:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by madtomatoz
if were not bak tracking , then why are alot of ppl paying to breed a great jyp with 40yr old seaman . or 15yr old seaman ?

THERE NOT GRADE DOGS.....THAT 40 YR OLSEMEN YOU SPEAK OF MAY BE THAT OF A GRADE DOG,I GUESS...LOL...

Posted by l.lyle on 03-07-2012 07:38 AM:

In my guess UKC has already fixed that with HTX hunts. The first Hunt I went on with a registered dog was off Houses Bawlie, World Champion. I did get there late and I got drawn out in the grade class just to help them make up a 4 dog cast. They cut our fanny. Not cheating, my dog was not ready. So think about HTX if you ain't scaid. LOL

Posted by plentyofpossum on 03-07-2012 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM

You actually been to a UKC nite hunt lately? Ever? Rich men? What a laugher that one is.

Jim believe this or not, but I don't have the money to drive one state over and compete in a hunt. Or travel all day to get a bitch bred to go yonder. I can't hardly afford the gas to go a couple nights out of the week. And i'm not the only one. It is a rich mans game. You have to spend alot of money before ever getting to the woods.

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