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Posted by jackback on 04-27-2010 01:24 AM:

Joy dog food

Well, I'm sure that Joy dog food has been discussed on here several times before, but the search button won't let you use words that are only 3 letters to search for a topic.

With that said, tell me your thoughts on Joy dog food...

Thanks.

Posted by boonetreecoon on 04-27-2010 02:35 AM:

I fed 24/20 and dogs keep really well off it really like it I feed it to four dogs and they all keep really well coats all shiny and the dogs really like it.

Posted by jackback on 04-27-2010 03:03 PM:

Nobody else knows about/feeds joy dog food?

Posted by Russell Boyette on 04-27-2010 03:43 PM:

junk IMO

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Posted by bones on 04-27-2010 05:17 PM:

FOOD

They changed owners of the company and some of the recipies on the mixes of food no soy . The High energy is working good for me

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Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 04-27-2010 05:33 PM:

ive been feeding the 24/20 brown bag the dogs got to looking better the what i was feeding ... but now im going to lower ratio for the summer but will be feeding joy 24/20 come winter if its still around

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Posted by CSnowgren on 04-27-2010 06:13 PM:

Crappola. 3,957 kcal I wouldn't exactly call it a good feed. If your dogs look better now feeding this, I'd hate to know what you were feeding before. lol

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Posted by jackback on 04-27-2010 06:46 PM:

To be honest, I've never fed it. Just heard a couple guys say it was pretty good. Thought I would ask you guys and see what you thought.

Posted by CSnowgren on 04-27-2010 06:49 PM:

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To be honest, I've never fed it. Just heard a couple guys say it was pretty good. Thought I would ask you guys and see what you thought.

Whenever you hear someone say that their dogs do great on some of this trash food........don't assume that the food is good, assume that they have no idea what they are looking at.

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Posted by Mark V. on 04-27-2010 10:15 PM:

I would try some, I have had really good luck with it. I know alot of folks that are feeding it that hunt harder than most and like iot.

Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 04-27-2010 10:22 PM:

i know what i look for in dog food i just dont go for the price an i think joy is a good dog feed but i guess some people think if you dont give 50 a sack for 35 pound bag that it ant no good....

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Posted by CSnowgren on 04-27-2010 10:25 PM:

What do you look for?

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Posted by Chiggers on 04-27-2010 10:26 PM:

I would say Insane Jane never took a bite of anything but Joy before she won the UKC World hunt at 17 months old.

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Posted by CSnowgren on 04-27-2010 10:29 PM:

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I would say Insane Jane never took a bite of anything but Joy before she won the UKC World hunt at 17 months old.

Whoa, that must mean its a great feed then. Nevermind the genetic power behind her. Great dogs are great dogs period. For those of us who have dogs barely worth feeding, its important that we feed them the best we can. Joy ain't it.

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Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 04-27-2010 10:38 PM:

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What do you look for?

i dont have to explain it to someone that surly is no a dog feed expert.. but i know what to look for ..an what do you feed

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Posted by Chiggers on 04-27-2010 10:45 PM:

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Originally posted by CSnowgren
Whoa, that must mean its a great feed then. Nevermind the genetic power behind her. Great dogs are great dogs period. For those of us who have dogs barely worth feeding, its important that we feed them the best we can. Joy ain't it.

I hear ya, imagine what she could have done on 40 dollar a bag feed.

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Posted by CSnowgren on 04-27-2010 10:53 PM:

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i dont have to explain it to someone that surly is no a dog feed expert.. but i know what to look for ..an what do you feed

I know what I look for, I was just curious to know what you look for. You said you know what to look for, I was asking what it is, thats all. By the way, I feed Diamond Extreme Athlete. The constant studies of grains, carbohydrates, glucose polymers and the canine metabolism was enough for me to get it through my thick skull that I could do better than a feed that 2 of the first 4 ingredients are grain. Add that to what I witnessed first hand and I haven't looked back. Limiting/removing grains was essential to me. Not the few extra bucks involved in doing so. Money is a limiting factor for people, I understand that. But trying to justify known lesser quality feed won't make up for it or change the quality of what you are feeding. If you can't feed your dog better, no harm in that. Its your standard of care that your dogs have to live with, not mine. If they are cool with it and give you what you ask, who am I to try and improve it.

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Posted by CSnowgren on 04-27-2010 11:04 PM:

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I hear ya, imagine what she could have done on 40 dollar a bag feed.

I hear ya, an improved diet is over-rated for performance dogs.

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Posted by Chiggers on 04-28-2010 12:37 AM:

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Originally posted by CSnowgren
Whoa, that must mean its a great feed then. Nevermind the genetic power behind her. Great dogs are great dogs period. For those of us who have dogs barely worth feeding, its important that we feed them the best we can. Joy ain't it.

In this Post you say it is over-rated.

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Posted by twilson78 on 04-28-2010 12:47 AM:

CSnowgren, What does it matter whats in it as long as someones dog does good on it? I tend to lean a little with an above post when he said just because joy isnt $50 for a 35lbs bag doesnt mean its junk! When I was young I saw my grandfather feed dogs the cheapest dog food money could buy BUT he kept them wormed and kept them up to date on their shots and you couldnt find any better looking and acting dogs anywhere! Myself I feed Pride 26/18 thats only 2%fiber and I like it only because it seems to leave less mess but if I didnt feed that I would without a doubt be feeding joy!!! My hounds always seemed to do good on joy before. Just goes to show that you dont have to feed the most expensive feed every dog is different and what my dog does good on yours may not and what yours does good on my dog may not!!!

Posted by CSnowgren on 04-28-2010 01:51 AM:

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CSnowgren, What does it matter whats in it as long as someones dog does good on it? I tend to lean a little with an above post when he said just because joy isnt $50 for a 35lbs bag doesnt mean its junk! When I was young I saw my grandfather feed dogs the cheapest dog food money could buy BUT he kept them wormed and kept them up to date on their shots and you couldnt find any better looking and acting dogs anywhere! Myself I feed Pride 26/18 thats only 2%fiber and I like it only because it seems to leave less mess but if I didnt feed that I would without a doubt be feeding joy!!! My hounds always seemed to do good on joy before. Just goes to show that you dont have to feed the most expensive feed every dog is different and what my dog does good on yours may not and what yours does good on my dog may not!!!

Canine nutrition and research has come along way since you watched your grandpappy feed the dogs. I think the key word in your first question is "good". To illustrate my point to the extreme....just because your dogs put one foot in front of the other doesn't mean they are doing "good." Just because your '71 Chevelle can get to the store and back on 87 octane, doesn't make it the best choice. Of course like I said, that is to the extreme but I hope you understand what I mean. I have seen many, many shabby looking hounds whose owners claim are a "picture of health" yet they have one foot in the grave. I am certainly not a propnent of feeding the most expensive feed in an effort to feed the best. Shyt, I have a budget to. But there are some very basic and well known things that I avoid, most grain (too numerous to list), by-products, and BHA/BHT for the most part. There are also a few things that I desire to feed my dogs, a quality protein such as chicken meal, fish meal, and lamb meal, ...chicken fat, chelated minerals, glucose polymers, etc. I seek these self imposed requirements out because I, along with many university studies, have found them to be associated with negative results and in some cases, unhealthy. My opinions have nothing to do with cost of the feed. But since you all have brought it up, put your thinking cap on a minute........If a bag of feed can be sold for $20.......what do you think it costs to make that bag? Conversely, if a bag of feed costs $35 or even $50....what do you think it costs to make that bag and why? The answer is simple once you account for branding. The ingredients are more costly likely due to them being better ingredients. Chicken meal is more expensive than chicken by-products. Chicken meal is a cleaner running fuel and is much more digestable. This is where the kcals come in. The lesser the kcal, the lesser the metabolizable energy. This is the amount of the feed that can be converted to usable energy. If the same amount of a different feed shows a greater kcal count, this means the ingredients are more compatible to the dog. This is a desirable thing. My intent is not to cheerlead for a feed or to bash a favorite feed. I don't know much about anything so take it for what its worth.

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Posted by Dwils on 04-28-2010 03:52 AM:

JUNK

my dogs would about eat anything...... but wouldnt eat this feed... the ones that did, looked horrible. so it went out back in the woods

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Posted by jackback on 04-28-2010 04:02 AM:

CSnowgren-

What do you feed?

Posted by CSnowgren on 04-28-2010 04:12 AM:

Extreme Athlete or the Diamond Natural Lamb and Rice in a pinch.

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Posted by l.lyle on 04-28-2010 04:27 AM:

There you go. One of them Toyata rice burners! LOL

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