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Posted by bridger80 on 08-06-2015 03:06 PM:

Underutilized Redbone studs?

What dogs looking back could have been bred to more to help our breed?

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Posted by Corey Gruver on 08-06-2015 03:17 PM:

NITECH 'PR' Krasa Sawblade Quickstuff Bone, 34 pups and had a reproducing percentage of like 18% (Doc X Fiddle)

Bone was a brother to Woody's mother Renard, Jon Henry's mother Mandolin, the Reckon female that produced Dean Daughtry's Bubba dog, and Fiddle II that produced Little Man and Miss Piggy.

Out of 34 pups, Bone produced 3 GRNTCH's and 3 NTCH's, and only ever had pups off three different females

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-06-2015 04:24 PM:

Nt Ch Pierce's Mongo Red......

Posted by Tim MACHA on 08-06-2015 04:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Nt Ch Pierce's Mongo Red......

No one knew the owner of Mongo Red. lol

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-06-2015 04:32 PM:

Tim, everyone in that other kennel club knew who I was but they didn't have any Redbone females. I used to think that if you had a real nice stud then everyone would just automatically breed their females to him. I found out that wasn't true so I have a new plan.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-06-2015 04:35 PM:

Gr Nt Ch Farr's Ramblin Red Little Zack...

Posted by Corey Gruver on 08-06-2015 06:51 PM:

I think they're all underrated to a degree to be perfectly honest, we have a great breed and ALOT of great studs out there

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Posted by mmarshall on 08-06-2015 07:34 PM:

Grnt wrong way ace

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-06-2015 07:55 PM:

Maybe we just need more good females to breed to them.

Posted by Tony Dominguez on 08-06-2015 08:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe we just need more good females to breed to them.

Couldn't agree with you more, seems like everyone is promoting stud dogs & not females...

If have to say a lot of folks forget Sulphur River Buck, Sandy Creek Jake, Outlaw Jack, & a few others... Also I'm a Timber Jack fan, wish there was semen put up on a few of those dogs that could be got!

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Posted by Corey Gruver on 08-06-2015 08:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe we just need more good females to breed to them.

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 08-07-2015 04:53 PM:

Dual Grand Champion Amos' Burning Ben.....direct son of Gr.Nt.Ch. Famous Amos x Gr.Nt.Ch. Millers red Betsy
Ben produced 8 Grand Nites from only 101 pups and most of those went on to become reproducers themselves that continue to show up in many dogs pedigrees to this day.

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 08-07-2015 05:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe we just need more good females to breed to them.

Agreed. Or buy a pup off of a good female instead of the theory that a good stud will/should make up for the lack thereof on the maternal side.

Posted by mmarshall on 08-07-2015 07:38 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Allen / UKC
Agreed. Or buy a pup off of a good female instead of the theory that a good stud will/should make up for the lack thereof on the maternal side. [/

Agreed

Posted by jdgher on 08-08-2015 04:52 AM:

Here's a few

Presently available
GRNTCH Daugherty's Red Bubba
GRNTCH Millcreek's Yellow River Stone
GRNTCH Hastings Hollar Oak Steve-O
GRNTCH QuadGrCh Yellow River Red Blaze
GRNTCH Brown's OK Red Twister

Past
GRNTCh Yellow River Rocky
GRNTCH Yellow River Red
GRNTCH Yellow River Doc

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 08-08-2015 08:11 AM:

Re: Here's a few

quote:
Originally posted by jdgher
Presently available
GRNTCH Daugherty's Red Bubba
GRNTCH Millcreek's Yellow River Stone
GRNTCH Hastings Hollar Oak Steve-O
GRNTCH QuadGrCh Yellow River Red Blaze
GRNTCH Brown's OK Red Twister

Past
GRNTCh Yellow River Rocky
GRNTCH Yellow River Doc
GRNTCH Yellow River Red

I'm going to utilize Quad Grand Ch. Yellow River Red Blaze as soon as Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean comes in heat

Posted by Chris Snyder on 08-08-2015 01:02 PM:

Unsung Studs

GRNTCH South Branch Midnite Pete.

Pete was one of the first, "real" redbones I hunted with. I've to this day never seen a dog like that. Ultra competitive, hard going and I believe would literally chase a coon off of a cliff.

Reproduced over ten percent and struggled to get over 100 pups. Had all the traits that Redbones could have used.

Nostalgia is fun, but can be a real disease though. Always move forward. The breed is in a really nice place right now and a lot of hard working folks have put it there. It has definitely improved since the first few redbones I hunted with.

Posted by Muckey on 08-09-2015 02:07 AM:

Re: Unsung Studs

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Snyder
GRNTCH South Branch Midnite Pete.

Pete was one of the first, "real" redbones I hunted with. I've to this day never seen a dog like that. Ultra competitive, hard going and I believe would literally chase a coon off of a cliff.

Reproduced over ten percent and struggled to get over 100 pups. Had all the traits that Redbones could have used.

Nostalgia is fun, but can be a real disease though. Always move forward. The breed is in a really nice place right now and a lot of hard working folks have put it there. It has definitely improved since the first few redbones I hunted with.

My Pete dog was one of the best I have owned. So much drive. He lived to hunt and tracked to catch. I wish there was more Pete offspring out there.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-10-2015 01:56 PM:

Re: Unsung Studs

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Snyder
.......GRNTCH South Branch Midnite Pete........
......Nostalgia is fun, but can be a real disease though.....

Isn't Pete the Grandsire of the current #6 Top Producing Female? And Chris, nostalgia is all some of us old guys have. Is it kinda like Oldtimers Disease? I can remember hunting with Mongo like it was yesterday but I can't remember my hunts from last week. I think that it has something to do with me wanting to forget my hunts last week.

Posted by dsurface on 08-17-2015 12:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe we just need more good females to breed to them.

I have a great female that I am looking to breed to a great stud. We have started out with small time hunts and shows with the kids and they love it. I love the fact they have also gotten a lot of there friends into the sport as well.

Her name is Sierra's smoking little Angel

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Posted by roger wickerham on 08-17-2015 11:22 PM:

Butternutcreek Red Chief Cruiser he is a coon hound loud, proud, fast get treed, hold presure, with brains and his pups are doing the same if you get a chance to see him go its alot of fun you wont be disapointed

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Posted by waylon yott on 08-18-2015 12:38 AM:

Dry Valley Scully needs to be bred more puts a lot
Of hunt and grit in them.

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Posted by j myers on 08-18-2015 12:40 AM:

Kim Jones Nt Ch Jones Turnback Crk Yel Punk.
He was the Purina National Champion Redbone a few years back.

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Posted by C.P. Porter on 08-18-2015 02:03 AM:

Granite.Ch..Hard up.Josey Wales......
I feel could of helped..

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Posted by sox12 on 08-30-2015 05:01 PM:

There are some reproduceing redbone males out there now that are not getting very many females bred to them,that down the road will make an impact on the redbone breed.

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