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Posted by Rob Ellett on 12-16-2003 02:34 AM:

Define interferring with other dogs

Besides having the other dogs head in its mouth what are some cases of interferring?

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Posted by Billy George on 12-16-2003 02:44 AM:

I would say anything a dog does to keep another away from the tree, face barking,throwing heads,jumping at the tree, back or heel biteing.I would consider all of these interfering and send dog's to the truck accordingly.

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Posted by SH COUNTRY on 12-16-2003 02:54 AM:

WHAT ABOUT ONE ROMANCING THE OTHER.


Posted by Billy George on 12-16-2003 02:57 AM:

BUt what if they are enjoying that type of interfearing....hehehe....

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Posted by SH COUNTRY on 12-16-2003 03:00 AM:

I GUESS SOMEBODY OWES SOMEONE A STUD FEE LOL


Posted by josh on 12-16-2003 03:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Billy George
I would say anything a dog does to keep another away from the tree, face barking,throwing heads,jumping at the tree, back or heel biteing.I would consider all of these interfering and send dog's to the truck accordingly.



Jumping at the tree? How is that interferring with another dog?.........You must end up with a lot of 1 dog casts.


Posted by Craig Harris on 12-16-2003 03:48 AM:

If you are going to send a dog to the truck for jumping at the tree /thats his style .Then we might as well send one to the truck for ripping bark off ,that might scare my dog or if he is treeing way to hard throwing slobber or hurting my dogs ears ,I dont like a dog to jack but sooner or later the jacking will probably get him in trouble .You got to draw a line some where we have bred for hard intense tree dogs sometimes you get a few falts ,ruff dogs jacking dogs dogs that chew dogs that climb should we can all of them and only keep the one that just sit down or stand on the tree ?Not every dog has a perfect style on the way he trees ,doesntme he is no less of a coon dog and should be punished for it .
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Posted by Rob Ellett on 12-16-2003 04:14 AM:

ok how about

interfeffence that isnt on the tree! Any idea?

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Posted by SH COUNTRY on 12-16-2003 04:25 AM:

GROWLING,MOUNTING ANOTHER DOG,SHOULDERING A DOG ON THE TURN LOOSE ETC


Posted by Rob Ellett on 12-16-2003 04:34 AM:

You just hit my pet peve Phillip

I hate a dog that thinks it has to bump and roll every turn out! that the one I was looking for,but I was reading the rule book last night and as they dont define "interferrence to well just thought zI would put this up and see what other things people thought were interferrence enough to scratch.
Even though I dont like chewing or jacking a tree I wouldnt consider that interferrence if the dog didnt make a point of using the other dogs as a jump off or landing spot all the time,but if they want to pick a peice or real eastate and pogo their butts off that fine, but if they think the whole tree is theirs and go to knocking dogs off the tree well I dont know how long I might put up with that.

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Posted by SH COUNTRY on 12-16-2003 04:43 AM:

WE THINK A LOT A LIKE LOL


Posted by Rob Ellett on 12-16-2003 04:45 AM:

Yep,LOL

Just drives me crazy when they do that!

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Posted by SH COUNTRY on 12-16-2003 05:04 AM:

me to


Posted by Philip on 12-16-2003 01:19 PM:

I don't like the dogs that bump on the turnout either, I just hold mine back for a few seconds if I know of one. But what is throwing the head back excactly. Shouldering is also something that happens that I don't think is cause to dismiss a dog. Running the tree is one thing, but when they land on another dog and they get ill which one is the aggresser? Just wondering.


Posted by Rob Ellett on 12-16-2003 02:23 PM:

Thorwing the head back?

What do you mean,expain farther, as far as which is the aggressor in your example like I said I may have to look at the jacker if they are the kind that "likes to fall on the other dogs consistently" but maybe Todd will shed some light on this.

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Posted by Philip on 12-16-2003 02:45 PM:

Well I am asking if one dog repeatively runs the tree and lands on the other dog and the other dog gets sick of it and growls or snaps at the falling dog, is the snaper the aggressor or the one who continues to fall on the other dog.


Posted by Billy George on 12-16-2003 02:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Jumping at the tree? How is that interferring with another dog?.........You must end up with a lot of 1 dog casts.


When I said jumping at the tree I mean't when a dog get's a running start,and ends up half way up the tree,does a back flip and lands in the middle of the other dogs. It in a way dosen't interfere with the other dogs ability to tree. But there will be trouble sooner or later. This is a judgement call,and if I'm the judge and your dog does back flips your in trouble!!!!

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Posted by jackbob42 on 12-16-2003 02:54 PM:

The shouldering around and around the tree will get them too !
Hate that !

Bob


Posted by Darrell on 12-16-2003 07:44 PM:

Let's see here. Jumping, chewing, and shouldering are aggressive behavior? Well sorry to say, but I guess every dog I got is ill in some way.

I guess we've come full circle, and back to "sit on your butt, 20 bpm, bawl mouth tree dogs", so as not to disturb anyone. Oh, and lets not bark too loud either...


Posted by Rob Ellett on 12-16-2003 07:47 PM:

Sure would be nice to get some

official input on this!!! Todd put that ladle back in the eggnog bowl and give some input!

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Posted by Willow Crk Blue on 12-16-2003 09:31 PM:

Interfering

I beleive that agressive behavior is part of what a dog must do to interfere. As much as I would rather have my dog with his front feet on the wood, (jumping can make you crazy) I don't beleive that running and jumping are "agressive behavior". It sure can make that dog that is a "little rough" show it though.

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Posted by awfred on 12-16-2003 09:43 PM:

Lets say two dogs at tree. Hear fussin all the way to tree, get there and watch. Every time the dogs get close dog "a" snaps at "b". Dog "b" pays no attention, other than to move over or around the tree. "a" comes to "b" again and trys to push him. Again "b" pay no attention. Is dog "a" interfering or just trying to? Keep in mind "b" does not get run off and there is no fight.


Posted by John D on 12-16-2003 10:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by awfred
Lets say two dogs at tree. Hear fussin all the way to tree, get there and watch. Every time the dogs get close dog "a" snaps at "b". Dog "b" pays no attention, other than to move over or around the tree. "a" comes to "b" again and trys to push him. Again "b" pay no attention. Is dog "a" interfering or just trying to? Keep in mind "b" does not get run off and there is no fight.


If Dog B seems to be unaffected by Dog A, then it appears to me there is no foul. But, you said Dog B moved around the tree, to get away from Dog B, so its possible Dog B was interfered with.

These marginal examples of aggressive behavior are something thats going to have to be seen, to form an opinion. I'm going to guess they will have to be pretty blatant to even be brought up by someone. In the end, whether its interference or not is a judgment call, like alot of other decisions in a nite hunt.


Posted by awfred on 12-17-2003 12:05 AM:

John D

In a situation like this it is so marginal that each handler would have a good case either way. The handler of dog "b" could say that "a" is mean, but handler of "a" could say "b" is still treeing so there is no interference.

Now lets put another dog in the senerio. Dog "c" was treed in and was obviously there. "c" stops barking before the cast arrives(looks like he was run off). Did he get a bad break, or was he interfered with?

By the way this is just for discusion. If I was in this deal my dog would be "c". I would from then on be hopeing not to draw dog "a" again.


Posted by jackbob42 on 12-17-2003 12:14 AM:

Are we talking interference or agression?

If dog "a" comes to dog "b" a second time and snaps at him , that is agression and he will be dealt with.

If dog "a" comes to dog "b" and trys to play ( puppy stuff ) , that dogs is causing interference and will be dealt with also.
But I believe thay are 2 different things.

JMO

Bob


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