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Posted by Buckshot on 05-09-2006 08:15 PM:

This Sign Says It All!!!!!


Posted by English Rule on 05-09-2006 08:31 PM:

Amen

I wish they would take everything Bonds has and throw it in the trash! He is a thorn in the side of an American Tradition! Most of all erase his name from the record books!

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Posted by huntingnick on 05-09-2006 08:34 PM:

totally agree with english rule

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Posted by redhunter on 05-09-2006 08:39 PM:

The guy that cought #713 was a real Barry Bonds fan. Bonds refused to sign the ball.
What a loser...


Posted by walkercash on 05-09-2006 08:59 PM:

i thik they should take all the ones before say 1995 away cause he wasnt on "things" then, go look at pics of him then and now. Those say it all. I actually used to like him.

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Posted by Bruce Conkey on 05-09-2006 09:51 PM:

If you guys and gals don't think most of the pro athletes are on some type of physical enhancement you have your heads in the sand. I am not saying whats right or wrong, just telling it like it is.

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Posted by John D on 05-09-2006 09:54 PM:

If you look hard enough, you can always figure out a way to put an asterisk by an accomplishment.

Did Babe Ruth face the pitching that Hank Aaron did? Was the strike zone the same size for all 3? Etc., etc.

Its only baseball, anyway...

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Posted by josh on 05-09-2006 10:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Conkey
If you guys and gals don't think most of the pro athletes are on some type of physical enhancement you have your heads in the sand. I am not saying whats right or wrong, just telling it like it is.



Boy, No offence intended Bruce, But by the looks of this post sheep is starting to rub off on you..........


Posted by bbecker09 on 05-09-2006 10:09 PM:

Just remember that Barry Bonds had never refused taking a drug test and has never failed one. I doubt hes used anything illegal and if he did it was unknowingly and for a short period of time. ( Also taking stuff before 1995 is wrong becuase there was no policy on steroids till a few years ago.

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Posted by masterd1976 on 05-09-2006 10:26 PM:

I for one don't really care what he or any of the others are or are not on. It's a personal choice that he will deal with in time. He is a grown man and knows what harm the drugs can do. So if he puts them in him so be it. I think the numbers would surprise you on how many of the others are on something too.


Posted by huntingwalkers9 on 05-09-2006 10:36 PM:

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i wish everyone would leave it alone, if they're going to kick him out, then do it but if not then leave it be. it is possible to buff up like that with out illegal steriods and hes passed every drug test.

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Posted by P.W. Chapman on 05-10-2006 12:14 AM:

I don't care for Barry Bonds and the sign makes a good point, but if we are gonna get picky.......

.....look at the sign, the part about Ruth & hotdogs and BEER...didn't Ruth play during this little thing called Prohibition?LOL...an "illegal" substance may have contributed to his career...how 'bout an asterisk LOL?


Posted by walkercash on 05-10-2006 12:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bbecker09
Just remember that Barry Bonds had never refused taking a drug test and has never failed one. I doubt hes used anything illegal and if he did it was unknowingly and for a short period of time. ( Also taking stuff before 1995 is wrong becuase there was no policy on steroids till a few years ago.
there is no difference between him then and now?????






still no difference????

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Posted by Matt Brabender on 05-10-2006 12:42 AM:

BONDS

Looks to me like he still has the same swing!!!!! The only difference I could see is now he wears protective gear on his right elbow. LMAO.....


Posted by bluetickjake on 05-10-2006 12:46 AM:

i don see much a difference other than hes older and bigger

if you put a picture of me when i was 18 and a picture of me now there is a 50 pound difference a lot bigger difference than the 2 pictures just posted.and no its not fat its from workin hard and eatin right. i was a bean pole then, now im a 50 pound heavier one. If someone wants to take stuff rather than do it the old fashion way than let em do it but since its not supposed to be done in MLB then he shouldnt be doin it if he is even doin anything wrong at all.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 05-10-2006 01:37 AM:

The first pic is an artist's rendition.



That being said, I believe the guy is juicing.


In the end, it does not matter if he gets the record, the hall and everything else. I believe he used them, and nobody can change my mind, so whether he gets in or not is of no consequence to me. He'll never make my Hall of Fame.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 05-10-2006 01:38 AM:

Re: i don see much a difference other than hes older and bigger

quote:
Originally posted by bluetickjake
if you put a picture of me when i was 18 and a picture of me now there is a 50 pound difference a lot bigger difference than the 2 pictures just posted.and no its not fat its from workin hard and eatin right. i was a bean pole then, now im a 50 pound heavier one. If someone wants to take stuff rather than do it the old fashion way than let em do it but since its not supposed to be done in MLB then he shouldnt be doin it if he is even doin anything wrong at all.



The one part of the human body that does not get bigger after adolescence is the Human Head.


Human Growth Hormone people.
When he joined the league his had size was something like
7 7/8 now it is nearly 9.

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Posted by Richard Bull on 05-10-2006 02:23 AM:

Re: Re: i don see much a difference other than hes older and bigger

quote:
Originally posted by T.Beyer
The one part of the human body that does not get bigger after adolescence is the Human Head.


Human Growth Hormone people.
When he joined the league his had size was something like
7 7/8 now it is nearly 9.





Hey if I hit that many homers, I'd get a BIG HEAD TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by T.Beyer on 05-10-2006 02:25 AM:

LOL Richard

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Posted by redhunter on 05-10-2006 07:19 AM:

bbecker09
Barry never had to refuse taking a drug test, several of the drugs he was on, and he admittedly says so...were designed to be undetectable.
The question never has been if Barry Bonds took steriods...he has and admitted to it under oath. It is a question of did he knowingly do so...and facts are pointing to he knew what he was taking and helped others get the same undetectable steriods too.

I have no respect for anyone taking them to get a performance edge. Its went into college sports and is now huge throughout high school sports where there is little or no detection. So much for roll models.


Posted by NAILOR on 05-10-2006 08:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by redhunter
bbecker09
Barry never had to refuse taking a drug test, several of the drugs he was on, and he admittedly says so...were designed to be undetectable.
The question never has been if Barry Bonds took steriods...he has and admitted to it under oath. It is a question of did he knowingly do so...and facts are pointing to he knew what he was taking and helped others get the same undetectable steriods too.

I have no respect for anyone taking them to get a performance edge. Its went into college sports and is now huge throughout high school sports where there is little or no detection. So much for roll models.



Do you have any proof of these things you are posting? When did he admit all of these things?What are these facts that are doing the pointing? Let's just let this thing play out before we start making accusations based on heresay.

In reallity who cares? With all the things going on in our world and with all of the problems we have in our country, I really resent that our govt. stops and takes the time to look into something of such little importance in the grand scheme of things. Forget about figuring out how to better fund our schools, teach our kids and pay our teachers. We have a multilillionair that may deserve an asterisk by his name if he used an illegal substance to break a record. What are they gonna do if he is using? kick him out of baseball? Wow he's almost done anyhow. Asterisk by the records he sets? Well I'm glad we took the time to figure that out. It's pure BS if he did or didn't take roids.

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Posted by Todd M / UKC on 05-10-2006 01:07 PM:

Here is what I never understood. I say who cares if he takes steroids? Its a sport and more than that its entertainment. He is paid to perform and to entertain just like everyone else in the league. The better they entertain the better they get paid. The better they perform the more people come to watch. I say if these pro athletes want to take steroids to put on a better "show" let them do it. People watch the steroid heads on big time wrestling all the time. how many people would tune into that to watch two 175 pound guys throw each other around the ring? probably none.

If you think about it in the whole scope of the world today, it really doesn't mean anything to me if Barry Bonds hits 900 homers on steroids or someone hits 400 without. It doesn't effect me, my family or my community nor does it yours, one bit and when I do decide to tuen into a game, its more fun to see the long ball than a trickler into right. People pay to see the longball.

I know I will get hammered with people saying "what does this portray to our youth". Well I say those things are learned at home. My kids don't jump off a cliff because a cartoon charector does and they don't kill because governor Arnold does on his shows. Likewise, they don't do steroids because that guy Barry Bonds on TV does.

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Posted by Buckshot on 05-10-2006 01:17 PM:

I just hate seeing the legends who played this game clean and when it was about the game instead of money have their stats and records fall to guys who had to juice up to reach what the old guys did clean and for the love of the game.

Skinning ole Maris hits 61 HR's and held that record for many many years. Broken one year from a guy to to takes the fitfth when asked about steroids and from one who has been caught cheating used corked bats.

Then the HR record is re-broken from one involved in steroid controversy . Sure records are made to be broke. Hate to see the old timers records broke this way.

NAILOR sure there are plenty more importart things happening in the world today that needs looked at it.

That doesn't mean that other stuff can't be brought up as well and discussed.


Posted by CATDADDY434 on 05-10-2006 01:32 PM:

HE MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAVE USED STEROIDS BUT HE STILL HAS TO HAVE A TRMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ABILITY AND SKILL TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE PITCHES HE HITS. THERE IS NOT A PITCHER IN BASEBALL THAT HE DOES NOT INTIMIDATE. IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE HE'S TOUCHING THEM ALL. THE AVERAGE PERSON COULD PUMP ROIDS TIL THEIR HEAD EXPLODED AND COULD NOT HIT LIKE BONDS. LIKE IT OR NOT HE IS THE MOST FEARED HITTER SINCE BABE RUTH.

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Posted by Bigtime on 05-10-2006 03:24 PM:

First off, I have never liked Barry Bonds. Period. I never liked his attitude or anything about the man. he is a jerk!

Hank Aarron was not on the juice when he broke the record. But neither were any of the pitchers. Without defending Bonds, it is a fact there are more pictures juiced up than any other position in MLB.

What does this mean? Bonds is still a jerk but maybe he was keeping up with his level of competition. Rather than worry about if he should be booted or have an asterick by his name is senseless.

People should be more concerned over how Johnny's dad acted last night at Little League when he cursed the ump. And how about Billy's dad that has not paid child support in 2 years. Oh yeah and don't forget about Jamal, his dad has never even came to a game to watch him play. I have to agree with Morgan on this one. Who really cares if Barry dies from liver disease in a couple of years? That will send a stronger signal to kids.

Maybe Earnhardt should have an asterick beside his name because Petty drove a Mopar.

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