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Trach breaking
I remember some of you guys talking about a scent solution yall had used to help break your hounds from running deer. I would like a little info on that product, it's name,how to use it,and how well it worked for you. I have a young dog and I would like to start him out without a shocking collar or having to whip on him. Thanks.
Mr Barnett, use "goat scent". Just buy a goat and put him/her in the kennel with your dog for a couple of weeks. I don't think that it matters what "brand" of goat you buy. 
Goat scent!!
I have goats right next to my dog pens and my young dogs never run deer, even with my running walker coyote hounds, they almost never mess with deer.
So you may be on to something.
Goats
I have a couple goats that are pastured next to the dog lot. The dogs get to run out there some. Dogs are for sure goat broke. The goats teach the dogs real quick not to mess with them. I think it might help with the deer.
You can buy a goat for $100 or less I think.
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goat scent
That's a good idea. When I get my dog broke I can BBQ the goat. I don't have a place for a goat. I would like something in a bottle.
Re: Goats
quote:x2 its funny but i got a goat and had to take him out of the dog pen he was beatin my dogs up keeping them in there house dog would chase the goat then you seen the dog come running back being chased and i think there might be something to it we have alot of deer and my dog dont run them (nock on wood)
Originally posted by jdgher
I have a couple goats that are pastured next to the dog lot. The dogs get to run out there some. Dogs are for sure goat broke. The goats teach the dogs real quick not to mess with them. I think it might help with the deer.
You can buy a goat for $100 or less I think.
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Just browsing through & came across this thread ...until now had never thought much about goats & dogs till now but you all are on to something . Years ago when my Mafia dog was a pup my daughter got a baby goat for her birthday . The dang thing could get out of anything we penned her in so finally we gave up and just let her run loose . My pups have always run loose (& now everybody elses too lol looks like a zoo out there half the time) this goat & Mafia grew up together ate from the same bowl & she would get in his dog house till they both wouldn't fit anymore . This goat thought it was a dog ! I have know that goats & deer have primarily the same diet so it would make sense that they would put off alot of the same scent . I whipped Mafia for running deer 2 x in his now 7 yrs of life ...they never were a problem . May have to get another yard goat - but the roses are just now starting to come back lol .
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I raised a deer fawn last summer,i let it graze in the yard ,and ole red never barked one time after I got on to him the first time he seen it...he don't run deer...
Re: goat scent
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Originally posted by Don Barnett Sr
I don't have a place for a goat.
Does the color of the goat matter? Would a brown one be better than a black one? What if my dog eats the small goat? Do I have a bigger problem then? Should then I get a bigger meaner goat? This is getting deep. How about a pigmy billy goat? Don't they put off more scent? I know the little one at my house stinks real bad? Would this help for rutting deer?
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I think we need a book wrote about this. So many questions!!
I like this forum there is a lot of great knowledge here.
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Jared, you put your goats at the far end of your property from the hounds. You need to move them right up next to the dog kennels. 
quote:DONT TELL EVERYONE ARE TRAINING SECRETS OTHER BREEDS ALREADY THINK WERE NOT PLAYIN WITH A FULL DECK!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by jkhutch
Does the color of the goat matter? Would a brown one be better than a black one? What if my dog eats the small goat? Do I have a bigger problem then? Should then I get a bigger meaner goat? This is getting deep. How about a pigmy billy goat? Don't they put off more scent? I know the little one at my house stinks real bad? Would this help for rutting deer?![]()
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I think we need a book wrote about this. So many questions!!I like this forum there is a lot of great knowledge here.
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You guys are about 50 years late----
Mr Dorman Clouse wrote about this in the early 60's in his column in Full Cry. (Putting a goat with your deer runners)
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quote:
Originally posted by jkhutch
Does the color of the goat matter? Would a brown one be better than a black one? What if my dog eats the small goat? Do I have a bigger problem then? Should then I get a bigger meaner goat? This is getting deep. How about a pigmy billy goat? Don't they put off more scent? I know the little one at my house stinks real bad? Would this help for rutting deer?![]()
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I think we need a book wrote about this. So many questions!!I like this forum there is a lot of great knowledge here.
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Re: You guys are about 50 years late----
quote:
Originally posted by OLD TIMER
Mr Dorman Clouse wrote about this in the early 60's
Re: Re: You guys are about 50 years late----
quote:He was some old auctioneer from Mizzouri..Had a few RED DOGS...LOL..
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Mr OLD GUY, I guess we are not that old. Who was Dorman Clouse?![]()
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YOU WANT ONE BIG ENOUGH TO PUT A WHIPPEN ON THE DOG
here is mr. dorman clouse
You young kids, like King Richard---
didn't get to see Mr. Clouse's column he wrote about "how lucky our wife's were, that we coon hunted at night, Because we could be sitting in some bar watching girls dancing on tables."
This was in the early 70's and I know one young lady, at that time, that wanted to call a Mr. Clouse and let him know how dam lucky he was that his wife wasn't one of the DANCERS!!
I never pointed that subject out again, because she was right.
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i remember dorman colume in the magazine.I like the one about the redbone and the monkey do you remenber that one,
Do you think we need more monkeys today???
I also hate a hound that lies and I also am the one with the gun.
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Back to the subject, goats, monkeys,and baby deer can't help me. My neighbors would hang me if I brought any of them critters here. I'm looking for something in a bottle. Thanks for your comments and It's been fun.
Get a piece of deer hide drag it around a certain spot leave it at the end and switch his his hind end when he gets to the hide then advance to just starting to smell the trail then take to coon scent and praise very important.
trash
I'm likeing the goat stories but nite light @ huntsmart. Com sells deer breaking sent 9 dollars I don't know how well it works but it's easier to catch than a goat.
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