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Posted by Cynthia on 04-04-2013 06:09 PM:

feed with greater than 20% fat content

what feed is available with greater than a 20% fat content?

open to all brands and varieties (adult and puppy).

I also need to know where they are available from please and if they are locale specific. also, include approx price ranges too.

thanks.

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Posted by Cynthia on 04-04-2013 06:17 PM:

Im hesitate about Diamond after all their issues tho.

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Posted by H. L. Meyer on 04-04-2013 06:32 PM:

Victor

Might want to look at their web.

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Posted by BlackElK on 04-04-2013 06:42 PM:

Understandable... I feed human grade meat and fats with pro plan performance to add the fat needed....


Posted by deschmidt27 on 04-04-2013 06:44 PM:

I've fed Diamond pre and post issues, and have never personally had a problem.

I have had problems with other's though, and usually my dogs let me know. If they don't gobble it up, then there's probably something wrong with, and I throw it out and buy another bag. I wouldn't do that often, though! But things happen, that are beyond the control of the manufacturer... bag get's wet in transportation or in a warehouse, get's moldy or stale, etc.

I've been please with Diamond and Extreme Athlete, although it is a bit expensive.

Right at 20% fat content, I would highly recommend Ultra, High Energy 24/20. That has been great and affordable dog food for me, but it's no loger in my area.

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Posted by Cynthia on 04-04-2013 06:53 PM:

the diamond in my area comes from the SC plants and that is where the issue was at, that is my concern. I know others still feed it but pre and post, but I do not want to chance it. thanks.

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RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13

RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15

RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15

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RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)

RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)

RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)

RIP Bella the Beagle

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Posted by Cynthia on 04-04-2013 07:42 PM:

Re: Victor

quote:
Originally posted by H. L. Meyer
Victor, Might want to look at their web.


highest they have is 20%

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RIP Southern Flame Elvira (the cornerstone of the kennel) 5/16/02-1/17/14

RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13

RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15

RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15

RIP Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)

RIP Southern Flame Triple Trouble (TT) 12/17/04 - 11/19/16

RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)

RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)

RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)

RIP Bella the Beagle

Bear, Jerry Lee, Camo, Maybellene, Lacy, Thor, Sissy, Merle, Tina, Bridgette - the Blueticks, Hollie - the Aussie


Posted by pegjerben on 04-04-2013 07:59 PM:

Cynthia, can I ask why you want a higher fat content? not being critical, just curious. can you possibly add a supplement to the feed you are currently feeding?

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Posted by Cynthia on 04-04-2013 08:19 PM:

have one male that has gotten skinny. feeding proplan savor shredded mixed with p.ONE shredded. fat % I think is in the 16%. all have been wormed (him 2x), in good health. appears healthy, pink gums, UTD on shots. just now having the 2nd of 2 girls go out of heat, hoping that is the reason for his weight loss. had a bout of diarrhea (bout 3days). got that cleared up. have added white bread to feedings, he eats 2x daily, 8cups daily, 1-2 poop day, solid. constantly moving in pen (has always done that tho). I was just wondering if there was anything more than 20%, but I guess I'll try the 20% which is a step up from the 16% he is on now. He has been 'normal' weight before so I know what his normal weight is. what he is now is not normal. he just had a check up a few weeks ago. I could get some of the salmon oil and add that.

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RIP Southern Flame Elvira (the cornerstone of the kennel) 5/16/02-1/17/14

RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13

RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15

RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15

RIP Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)

RIP Southern Flame Triple Trouble (TT) 12/17/04 - 11/19/16

RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)

RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)

RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)

RIP Bella the Beagle

Bear, Jerry Lee, Camo, Maybellene, Lacy, Thor, Sissy, Merle, Tina, Bridgette - the Blueticks, Hollie - the Aussie


Posted by Gary Thompson on 04-04-2013 08:27 PM:

Native level 4 best feed out there , a little on the high side, but well worth it, its sold in Greensboro somewhere, get ahold of Allen Hegdecock he can direct you where to go


Posted by shinerunner on 04-04-2013 08:35 PM:

C were feeding pro plan performance and have been adding corn oil to it. Seems to help a lot. We had the same issue

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Posted by Cynthia on 04-04-2013 08:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gary Thompson
Native level 4 best feed out there , a little on the high side, but well worth it, its sold in Greensboro somewhere, get ahold of Allen Hegdecock he can direct you where to go

yes, $50/bag. for that I'll feed Performance and I can get it local. G'boro is 1.5hr from me.

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2013 World Champion Bluetick, 2013 AO Overall Bred By winner GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder)
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RIP Southern Flame Elvira (the cornerstone of the kennel) 5/16/02-1/17/14

RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13

RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15

RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15

RIP Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)

RIP Southern Flame Triple Trouble (TT) 12/17/04 - 11/19/16

RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)

RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)

RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)

RIP Bella the Beagle

Bear, Jerry Lee, Camo, Maybellene, Lacy, Thor, Sissy, Merle, Tina, Bridgette - the Blueticks, Hollie - the Aussie


Posted by pegjerben on 04-04-2013 08:59 PM:

if you can get it, I won't feed anything but the Ultra Advantage 24/20 - we have tried tons of others and always go back. even the ones that run their pens or females on pups - 4 to 4 1/2 cups a day puts weight on, all the others get 3 cups a day.

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Posted by JiM on 04-04-2013 09:05 PM:

Dr Tims Momentum. 35/25. Best I've ever fed.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 04-04-2013 09:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pegjerben
if you can get it, I won't feed anything but the Ultra Advantage 24/20 - we have tried tons of others and always go back. even the ones that run their pens or females on pups - 4 to 4 1/2 cups a day puts weight on, all the others get 3 cups a day.



Good Stuff for sure..same problem, closest to me is over an hour away.

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 04-05-2013 01:02 AM:

FEED

THE PRIDE 2420 IS A GOOD FEED YEAR ROUND TRY THERE CHICKEN RICE 26 18 2117 REAL GOOD FEED


Posted by Lovis Burns on 04-05-2013 10:28 AM:

Cynthia, I feed Showtime 31/22. I love it. It comes in a 50lb bag.
The store I get it from has it for $30.50. But if you buy 5 bags or more it drops down to $29.50 a bag. My dogs have a good weight on them even being hunted. The coats are slick and shiny.

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Posted by COYOTE-HUNTER on 04-05-2013 11:49 AM:

I feed Southern States 24/20 to my coyote hounds. Had one that did not put on weight. Started feeding this and a big turn around. These dogs are run 5-7 days a week.


Posted by Tim Trone on 04-05-2013 12:51 PM:

I've had a few people tell me that they were feeding Pro Plan and the dogs were not holding weight.

I gave been feeding Nutrena feeds for about 5 years now and not had a problem with any of their feed. Doesn't matter how hard i hunt the dogs or if its a dig that will not put on weight. Nutrena puts the weight on and keeps it on. They have the Nutrena Pro Premium which is a 26/19 and an excellent feed about 34$for 40lbs or Nutrena HI N R G 24/20 about 34$ and they have Loyall 26/19 which is also a great feed.

If you are interested in the Nutrena products you can search their website for dealers. Nutrena has been around many many years .


Posted by Diggerman on 04-05-2013 02:10 PM:

I cannot believe you are feedin 8 cups aday,thats alot. Conditioning is in the eye of the beholder, some people think dogs have to be fat,some only want muscle tone. What I have found out is that if you want a fat dog,feedem a corn based dog food. If you want muscle tone feed a good meat,no grain dog food.

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Posted by 1deadeye on 04-05-2013 02:58 PM:

I just went thru this with one of mine. She's a pacer and with the long drawn out winter here couldn't keep the weight on her.
So I did a couple of things.
First I switched wormer. I ordererd a broad spectrum wormer. It has praziquantel, oxantel embonate and pyrantel in it.
Then I put her on a auto feeder. I feed Diamond E.A. I just let her eat what she wanted. SHE ATE A LOT. I'm not hunting her, so no need to worry about a twisted stomach. Then I added satin balls twice a day. 1/4 pound both morning and night.
A week later, she was a completely different looking dog. I'm guessing she put on 5-8 pounds. She's still on the auto feeder. She slowed down on that.
I stopped the satin balls after the first week.
I ordered the wormer from Australia. It was 30.00 for two pills with shipping. Each pill treats an 88 pound dog.
Here's a link for the wormer.

http://www.vidalspets.com/epages/vi...hops/vidalspets

A link for satin balls.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Put...th-satin-balls/

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Posted by JeepsandGsds on 04-05-2013 03:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cynthia
the diamond in my area comes from the SC plants and that is where the issue was at, that is my concern. I know others still feed it but pre and post, but I do not want to chance it. thanks.
you are right about the problem coming from south ca. But unless u are going to be eating it there's not a lot to worry about. We have been feeding diamond for 15 yrs now and never had the first problem.

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Posted by JeepsandGsds on 04-05-2013 03:32 PM:

And they made them recall tastes of the wild and professional puppy foods which are made by diamond

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Posted by Andy Bedgood on 04-05-2013 03:41 PM:

Been feeding the Showtime 31/22. Very good feed with very good results. Contains no corn or soy.


Posted by GA DAWG on 04-05-2013 04:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy Bedgood
Been feeding the Showtime 31/22. Very good feed with very good results. Contains no corn or soy.
How much is it?

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