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Posted by A.Kath on 08-11-2009 11:59 PM:

Gettin Deep...

I've read discussions on north vs south dogs and guys are talking about dogs getting deep to find a coon.
When you say "deep" exactly how far do you consider deep? Opinions vary so let's here them. Please explain the terrain and coon population too.

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Posted by Virgil on 08-12-2009 12:52 AM:

Where I hunt I would consider deep to be 3/4 to 1 mile. Most nights my dog can get a coon before that far but some nights they have to go that far and even farther.

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Posted by Justin_Cox on 08-12-2009 12:55 AM:

around here, we have steep mountain sides, and a thin population of coons. so deep means, you turn them looses in one holler and a hour or two you find them several miles away, and it in another holler. around here when you get on top of the mountains, you can wind up in another counties or state. they run that far. so for me, I hunt dogs that run out about 30 min or less all around you. I have learned from my mistakes not to hunt a too wide dog.

we have had dogs be gone for days, before we could find them.



A old timer who got me into coonhunting used to let his dog out about dark from his house, and hour or two he would get into his truck and drive around listing for them.

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Posted by southern_p_08 on 08-12-2009 01:32 AM:

I looked at my GPS when i got to my female treeing one night and said 1.3 miles from the truck. We get anwhere from 0.5 - 0.8 of a mile pretty consistently down here unless it is a spot that is thick with coons

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Posted by jculler8 on 08-12-2009 01:45 AM:

Everyone's got to have a 'hot spot'... I'm pretty sure corn and sweet corn is planted EVERYWHERE around the US... meaning BOTH north and south!

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Posted by intellectualist on 08-12-2009 01:50 AM:

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Where I live has a thin coon population. If you have a dog that will check out and come back in about 30 minutes, well, that is just about perfect.
I guess these people who say they do not want a dog to check in must always be hunting in thick coons.
What fun is it to wait an hour or two then have to drive several miles to get to your dog that is treed and you never got to hear the race?
You could not give me a dog that would not check back in!


Posted by hammer blz on 08-12-2009 02:28 AM:

here where i hunt in florida to me deep would be a mile or two and some times where you cant pick them up on the tracker then when i do find them they are treed with the meat ,but thats not always just we have very few coons here in some spots.the terrain where we hunt is a couple differnt kinds well to start its all flatland ,besides the river bottoms ,but i like hunting in pines ,this is where they get deep ,then some spots we have small drains and branchs surrounded by sage grass fields or ponds and then we have HELL in the thickets but the coon here like the thickest crap they can find ,so thats about tells it here where we hunt TATES HELL FOREST we have no private land to hunt so the dogs can go miles and miles for days without hitting the blacktop just how i like it ...

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Posted by A.Kath on 08-12-2009 02:51 AM:

I will consider myself fortunate to be in good coon population and most of the time the dogs can get struck in the woods you cut them in. Doesn't mean that's where they will tree, but there is usually action within hearing distance.


Posted by l.lyle on 08-12-2009 03:37 AM:

I agree with A CATH? Deep has more to do with where they strike. If I've got to strain my ears to hear a strike then thats deep. Out of hearing is too deep and he won't eat no more of my feed. Iv've got tracking collars but that don't matter. He still won't eat my feed.


Posted by blackdawg on 08-12-2009 08:43 AM:

It's nothing for us to find dogs treed several miles away here. I don't like a dog that comes back.... I want to find them parked on a tree somewhere.

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Posted by Craig Edwards on 08-12-2009 09:05 AM:

To me going til they find a coon is going deep. Anything short of that is medium. If you've got a coon dog that goes deep, you'll find it at the end of a finished track.............somewhere.

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Posted by coon dawg on 08-12-2009 11:05 AM:

.............

.............3/4rths of a mile...............

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Posted by DEMODOG1 on 08-12-2009 01:53 PM:

I had a dog go deep tonight 1.73 miles and NOT on a track of any type!!


Posted by rattrap on 08-12-2009 02:00 PM:

Gone!!!

Here in these mountains they cannot return. If they do, then you are shut out. The coon population is thin but in some spots you can hit one pretty quick and in others you might have to go and find him! Coon Dawg has one that will get deep!!!!

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 08-12-2009 02:13 PM:

In the land of coons in every other tree, MO is a deep hunting dog goes until its strikes a coon. The furthest I have had a dog go was 7 miles. It was during the winter with over 2 feet of snow.

I have had others dogs that had to go 2-3 miles to tree a coon. It is usually on a night the coons aren't moviing.

I prefer a dog to hunt, but I also don't like a dog to pass coons up horse racing through the country.

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 08-12-2009 02:14 PM:

Deep

Deep might be a mile, but too deep might be, cross the river and that would mean going to get the boat
there are a variety of places to hunt here in South Al, and North Fl. you have the pine hills and hollows and the oak ridges with creeks and bottoms , and you have the river swamps, that we call the easy coons pop ups and then you have the Branches and briar patches, ( Not easy coons) so there are a variety of spots to hunt, just depends on what kind of hound you want to turn loose and if your willing to follow him to a tree. it can get very interesting some times, i assure you all

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Posted by coon dawg on 08-12-2009 02:26 PM:

Re: Gone!!!

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Originally posted by rattrap
Here in these mountains they cannot return. If they do, then you are shut out. The coon population is thin but in some spots you can hit one pretty quick and in others you might have to go and find him! Coon Dawg has one that will get deep!!!!
............yeah, Ashley............you better be ready to go to a tree somewhere when you pull those hip boots on...............lololol............not throwin' off on anybody...but alot of folks with high coon populations just don't know what "thin coons" means.................and we don't have section roads......you walk, not drive around.............lolol.........sorta WVA with swamps instead of mountains..........lolol.....ps-you goin to AO???????

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Posted by Bluedogman on 08-12-2009 02:31 PM:

It's not uncommon for me to walk a mile or two to a tree. Mine have treed many times out of hearing and I had to use the tracker to get a direction on them and drive to a point I could walk to the tree. When I hunt one dog they will hunt closer and will sometimes check in. Then again they might not. Sometimes tree out of hearing hunted alone. When I hunt two or more they do not come back. They will be under a tree somewhere when I find them.

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Posted by Todd24 on 08-12-2009 02:54 PM:

Gettin Deep!!

Last night sent dog to the east in fence row with creek in bottom, treed just as she entered woods. (250 yrds).
After that we sent another dog to the west struck about 200 yrds in and was having hard time with track decided to drop the other dog in to help and she decided to go back the direction she treed first time but this time stopped short of the woods with 3 coon in tree. Dog that went to the west finally got treed about a mile to the west. 3 trees and 5 coon. Went on hunting!
Michigan you get on a coon thats been chased a few times you may have to walk a little. 90% percent of time we tree 200 to 300 yrds in I would guess. We have guys that complain about that. So they went to Currs. LOL

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Posted by Todd24 on 08-12-2009 03:06 PM:

reminds me

I hunted with a dog they called Mack the dog was 6 yrs old and was out of Kentuckey. Nice Dog. This dog went mile maybe 2 to get treed. I treed coon right behind him, couple of times that night. You know that dog beat me that night, I figured I had him that night. come down to the wire, he had 1050 and i had 1000 points. He got his first place. That night. He was a nice dog just I know he was passing coon up.

Dog that gets out of hearing is a little more that I like, and in Michigan that should be very rare that it needs to happen. My opion.

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 08-13-2009 01:47 PM:

Re: reminds me

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I hunted with a dog they called Mack the dog was 6 yrs old and was out of Kentuckey. Nice Dog. This dog went mile maybe 2 to get treed. I treed coon right behind him, couple of times that night. You know that dog beat me that night, I figured I had him that night. come down to the wire, he had 1050 and i had 1000 points. He got his first place. That night. He was a nice dog just I know he was passing coon up.

Dog that gets out of hearing is a little more that I like, and in Michigan that should be very rare that it needs to happen. My opion.




I know Hounds will pass up tracks, but some times im thinking there just pickey or somthing , maybe they didnt want to work as hard on an old feed track so they keep moving to a hotter trail. and then iv seen the race horses that dont even put there head down for a qaurter of a mile. it seems mostly walkers do that. From what iv saw through the years! then iv saw the colder nosed dogs strike and another hound pick up the track in front of them and tree the same coon the other hound struck, just didnt bark as much. I had a female that would flat embaress folks that way more than one time she just couldent stand track beaters so she would just slip out in front and have the coon waiting on the other dog to get there She would go as deep as she had to to stike and if you found her most of the time she had a coon

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Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 08-13-2009 05:33 PM:

Where i live if we are not struck in 6 or 7 minutes we start to get nervous.

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Posted by Cody Carroll on 08-13-2009 05:51 PM:

if i aint heard mine in 15 or 20 min i get the tracker out. then i get to walkin. drivin if im lucky. i dont want a dog that comes back. i usually find mine treed with a coon SOMEWHERE

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 08-13-2009 06:10 PM:

I just don't understand how these hounds are Going All these "Miles" .. Heck I live in a Rule area Mostly 150 -200 Acre Farms.. Now If any of my Hounds went a mile or More while Coon Hunting They would have been Fried before they Crossed the Next Farm .. Even at a Mile they would have crossed 3 or more Big Farms and Would be trespassing and on their Way to Being Shot .. I just can't have that around here..

When were running a Bear on the Mountain is a Different Story and the Longest race I have every ran One Way was 7.5 Miles and then 4 back towards me 11.5 Total ..

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 08-13-2009 07:43 PM:

More coons

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I just don't understand how these hounds are Going All these "Miles" .. Heck I live in a Rule area Mostly 150 -200 Acre Farms.. Now If any of my Hounds went a mile or More while Coon Hunting They would have been Fried before they Crossed the Next Farm .. Even at a Mile they would have crossed 3 or more Big Farms and Would be trespassing and on their Way to Being Shot .. I just can't have that around here..

When were running a Bear on the Mountain is a Different Story and the Longest race I have every ran One Way was 7.5 Miles and then 4 back towards me 11.5 Total ..



Youv, probly got lots moor coons than the average do so that probly explains it . there arent that many coons in the piney woods here so they have to hunt from hill to hill

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