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Posted by smartin0022 on 07-04-2013 03:24 AM:

What would you do about dog that quit treeing?

What would you do if you had a 15 month old dog that was treeing Good and now seems to have lost interest in treeing. Will run track quit it and run another track. Have seen him end them and locate hard several times marked it gone in and found the coon while he was working another track. He really isn't treeing much if at all. Has stayed on one in three months prior to this was doing good on 20-30 trees.
Would you
A.) lay him up awhile
B.) knock coons out and tie him back not letting him have any
C.) cull
D.) hunt him through it it's just a phase
E.) none of the above ( please explain your idea of what to do.)

Posted by pigsit on 07-04-2013 04:27 AM:

Is he for sale? Tom

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Posted by smartin0022 on 07-04-2013 01:28 PM:

quote:
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Is he for sale? Tom

Nope...

Posted by JiM on 07-04-2013 03:43 PM:

Before choosing any of those four options, I'd do my darndest to figure out WHY the dog went backwards because you can't really choose any of your options without first understanding what caused the problem.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-04-2013 03:47 PM:

I would first start by taking your dog to the vet and have him tested for lymes disease.

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Posted by chuck west on 07-04-2013 05:02 PM:

Have the dogs ears checked by the vet .

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Posted by GA DAWG on 07-04-2013 05:38 PM:

Id just keep on hunting him till I couldn't stand it anymore. I had one go through exact same thing. Made me bout go crazy and cuss A LOT. He got through it. Id also make sure he was good an healthy. Vet check. How many coons has he had. I had a old gentlemen tell me once that to many when young can cause this. Cause the last place they smell a coon the strongest is on the ground where its laying dead. Sounded good anyhow.

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Posted by mauser06 on 07-04-2013 05:40 PM:

if i had to guess i would say he is checking and finding another track and running it...

this time of year with litters on the ground and multiple coon in 1 spot it happens...especially with young dogs just putting it all together...they arent 1000% confident to stay...theyve learned to check and when checking they hit another track and take it..

but could be a lot of other things as well...

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Posted by PaPlotts on 07-04-2013 05:48 PM:

What do you give the dog if it has lymes disease and where do you get it?

Posted by smartin0022 on 07-04-2013 05:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
Before choosing any of those four options, I'd do my darndest to figure out WHY the dog went backwards because you can't really choose any of your options without first understanding what caused the problem.

He was hunted all winter did this in the beginning but came around and started treeing hard he has had prolly 30 coon knocked out. 7 by himself. He was layed up for a month brought to ky from ga and hunted. Since he's been here he just really hasn't done well. He was hunted in the swamps in south ga lots of water few coons. The only thing I got left is that he just can't do it in the north because he sure enough did it in the south. You would think it would be the other way around but not so far with this one.
He never got ate up at the tree if that's the answer you thought I might have.
To the others About the vet check:
He had a yeast infection when we first got him back so he has been treated for that. We no longer give him dog food with sugar. Other than that he seems fine. What would be the symptoms of Lyme disease

Posted by Bigridge kennel on 07-04-2013 06:07 PM:

My redbone did this , but only when he was hunted with other dogs. I started going by my self and I shot alot of coons out to him and now He won't leave.

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Posted by Ky Show Girl on 07-04-2013 06:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smartin0022
He was hunted all winter did this in the beginning but came around and started treeing hard he has had prolly 30 coon knocked out. 7 by himself. He was layed up for a month brought to ky from ga and hunted. Since he's been here he just really hasn't done well. He was hunted in the swamps in south ga lots of water few coons. The only thing I got left is that he just can't do it in the north because he sure enough did it in the south. You would think it would be the other way around but not so far with this one.
He never got ate up at the tree if that's the answer you thought I might have.
To the others About the vet check:
He had a yeast infection when we first got him back so he has been treated for that. We no longer give him dog food with sugar. Other than that he seems fine. What would be the symptoms of Lyme disease

how long will he tree?what time or you starting?you hunting water or hills

Posted by walker1978 on 07-04-2013 07:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaPlotts
What do you give the dog if it has lymes disease and where do you get it?

go to the vet and they will test for it. if need they will give you pills to give to the dog.

Posted by smartin0022 on 07-04-2013 07:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ky Show Girl
how long will he tree?what time or you starting?you hunting water or hills

He hasn't really treed much in ky in hills and small creeks. He will locate for about a minute most ppl would put him on the card I mean die down locate then after a minute he will check go back to tree and locate again then usually move on. He did this one night I put him back on the tree found the coon and tried to coax him to tree. He acted uninterested altogether. In Georgia he would track locate and slam trees rolling into a chop staying till you got to him. The only time he stayed put in ky so far he was in the ground. He has been hunted alone and with others but mostly alone. Once he is tied after catching he will tree. I dunno I'm sorta at my wits end

Posted by GA DAWG on 07-04-2013 08:38 PM:

How long you had him? You saw him do all that in Ga?

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Posted by Ky Show Girl on 07-04-2013 08:40 PM:

i dont know unless he was hunted in 1 place in ga and it became his back yard.i have heard dad talk about dogs
going threw a spell where they try to be the worlds greatest
track dogs.

Posted by charterpines on 07-04-2013 09:27 PM:

Try this!

Get a caged coon and tease him with it on the ground. When he pays attention to it praise him real good. When he quits it stop petting him, but you start messing with the coon. Then repeat the petting process as you move the coon up the in the tree. Just make him think he is the biggest hero in the world when he gets on the tree. Atleast that's what I would do.

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Posted by oldman on 07-05-2013 12:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by smartin0022
He was hunted all winter did this in the beginning but came around and started treeing hard he has had prolly 30 coon knocked out. 7 by himself. He was layed up for a month brought to ky from ga and hunted. Since he's been here he just really hasn't done well. He was hunted in the swamps in south ga lots of water few coons. The only thing I got left is that he just can't do it in the north because he sure enough did it in the south. You would think it would be the other way around but not so far with this one.
He never got ate up at the tree if that's the answer you thought I might have.
To the others About the vet check:
He had a yeast infection when we first got him back so he has been treated for that. We no longer give him dog food with sugar. Other than that he seems fine. What would be the symptoms of Lyme disease

as some have already said, try & find out why he lost interest in treeing
now I have a question for you how or what did you treat the yeast infection with thanks

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Posted by Dwils on 07-05-2013 01:14 AM:

The pup has stoppe Treeing coon because the fun has wore off and now everything he does is only for himself .... That's my guess . Have you been easy on him and let him be a pup ? May be time to let him know who he's Treeing coons for . YOU

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Posted by Dwils on 07-05-2013 01:21 AM:

This spring I was hunting my most recent bear pup . She treed around 40 coon and had done it right. When she hit around 10 months she almost quit Treeing completely . Was contempt with trailing , locating coon and going on to find another . I sat her up 2 weeks and started putting some "pressure" on her and letting her know plain and simple... The only way she's having fun Is if I'm having fun ... And the the only way in having fun Is if she's Treeing coon like I want her to .

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Posted by smartin0022 on 07-05-2013 01:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by oldman
as some have already said, try & find out why he lost interest in treeing
now I have a question for you how or what did you treat the yeast infection with thanks

For the yeast infection we switched to a gluten free food which is sport mix I think it's in a gray bag. And the vet gave us otecetic flush to clean ears with twice a week in both ears. Also remicin ointment to apply to both ears twice a day every 12 hours for 10 days.

Posted by smartin0022 on 07-05-2013 02:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dwils
The pup has stoppe Treeing coon because the fun has wore off and now everything he does is only for himself .... That's my guess . Have you been easy on him and let him be a pup ? May be time to let him know who he's Treeing coons for . YOU

I completely understand that the fun has wore off this pup has been hunted hard, put away wet. But he was laid up for awhile... How did you let your pup know she/he was treeing coon for YOU? He hasnt had one knocked out in three months is that the answer? Reason he hasn't had one knocked out is because he hasn't done his job. So should we knock a coon out to him even if he didnt tree until tied back? He worked the track but was milling on the ground instead of treeing do I reward him with a coon even though he didnt deserve rewarding?

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 07-05-2013 02:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dwils
This spring I was hunting my most recent bear pup . She treed around 40 coon and had done it right. When she hit around 10 months she almost quit Treeing completely . Was contempt with trailing , locating coon and going on to find another . I sat her up 2 weeks and started putting some "pressure" on her and letting her know plain and simple... The only way she's having fun Is if I'm having fun ... And the the only way in having fun Is if she's Treeing coon like I want her to .

I agree. At 10-12 months my pup was just starting to tree and would leave about when I was 50 yards off the tree. Til that point I was real nice to the pup and let it play in the yard when I could and pet it ect ect. I stopped all that. The dog got nothing from me but feed til it was on the tree and so far....along with a few gimme caged turn outs, we are rolling in the right direction.

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Posted by smartin0022 on 07-05-2013 01:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smartin0022
I completely understand that the fun has wore off this pup has been hunted hard, put away wet. But he was laid up for awhile... How did you let your pup know she/he was treeing coon for YOU? He hasnt had one knocked out in three months is that the answer? Reason he hasn't had one knocked out is because he hasn't done his job. So should we knock a coon out to him even if he didnt tree until tied back? He worked the track but was milling on the ground instead of treeing do I reward him with a coon even though he didnt deserve rewarding?

I read this again this morning and realized it might have came across the wrong way. I didn't intend for it to come across as defensive I was just asking alot of questions that I genuinely would like an answer for. Was not intended to sound rude

Posted by oldman on 07-05-2013 02:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smartin0022
For the yeast infection we switched to a gluten free food which is sport mix I think it's in a gray bag. And the vet gave us otecetic flush to clean ears with twice a week in both ears. Also remicin ointment to apply to both ears twice a day every 12 hours for 10 days.

thanks for the info & good luck with the dog.

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