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Posted by tree'em20 on 09-08-2011 07:20 PM:

tight mouth track dogs thats have won big???

What tight/silent dogs out there that have done alot of winning?

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-08-2011 07:22 PM:

Not to many in UKC. If your dog is consistently getting 25 on strike and 125 on tree that's 150,

A dog getting 100 and backing yours all night long wins far to often.

Posted by tree'em20 on 09-08-2011 07:27 PM:

not just UKC, talking everything over all.....

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-08-2011 07:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tree'em20
not just UKC, talking everything over all.....

That's a tough question but I assure you way more tight mouth dogs wi in the other kc then in UKC.

Posted by BLCKRIVREDBONES on 09-08-2011 07:33 PM:

Tight on track has nothing to do with not getting first strike.

There was a walker named Scar that won the world a few years back. Seems to me the article I read said he was tight on track. Got split a lot because he didn't have a lot of tagalongs.

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Posted by JiM on 09-08-2011 08:04 PM:

If someone can find the scorecard that was posted for the Final Four of the World Hunt that Janice Joplin won, you would see a score that won it all with a low strike dog.

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Posted by max destruction on 09-08-2011 08:38 PM:

Tite mouth dogs can be 1st strike dogs!

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Posted by rance56 on 09-08-2011 09:26 PM:

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Posted by Pat Bizich on 09-08-2011 09:39 PM:

I know of a couple nt ch and grntch that did not open until just before treed.

Posted by Sparky on 09-08-2011 10:18 PM:

Tight mouth dogs can win especially on a 1 or 2 coon cast. If you have a barking type dog that gets by thereself abunch, that's hard to beat.

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Posted by Dwils on 09-08-2011 10:51 PM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
That's a tough question but I assure you way more tight mouth dogs wi in the other kc then in UKC.

i agree and disagree. In a two hour maybe. But the 1 hour weekday hunts the strike dog dominates. thats why i hate them 1 hr hunts

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Posted by tree'em20 on 09-08-2011 11:41 PM:

tight mouth

iv HERD that briar creek zeb and that hard knockin big momma were both pretty tight. they have both done some winning.

Posted by l.lyle on 09-09-2011 12:35 AM:

I don't know anything about pointing dogs and their current scoring system in competition. From the old stories I have read I believe a dog was expected to back. Might or might not have got points for backing but for sure was not penalized. It sure would be agravating to have four independent Pointers headed for parts unknown. And they were all tight mouth to my knowledge.

Posted by II Chance on 09-09-2011 12:53 AM:

Re: tight mouth

quote:
Originally posted by tree'em20
iv HERD that briar creek zeb and that hard knockin big momma were both pretty tight. they have both done some winning.

Stilling strikes with a great handler, can't do that now, i've been out of hunting for 25 years you just can't still strikes. Now boys I know we all have done so years ago! Not saying any bad, I hunted alot with whom i call the greatest Handler of his time when he was younger R. B.

Posted by II Chance on 09-09-2011 12:56 AM:

You tell'um young man

quote:
Originally posted by Dwils
i agree and disagree. In a two hour maybe. But the 1 hour weekday hunts the strike dog dominates. thats why i hate them 1 hr hunts

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Posted by Virgil on 09-09-2011 12:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dwils
i agree and disagree. In a two hour maybe. But the 1 hour weekday hunts the strike dog dominates. thats why i hate them 1 hr hunts

Must be different in the thicker coon areas because here you will be lucky to score on more than one coon in an hour and whichever dog treed it will be your winner just about every time.

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Posted by II Chance on 09-09-2011 01:07 AM:

Think about it

I hunt a 3rd strike dog and splits a lot but that is only 175 but if he don't split it gets gut c. so what do you do.

Posted by Dogcop on 09-09-2011 01:35 AM:

Goes back to the old " good handler can take a mediocre dog and win ". They pitch when a dog strikes and most dogs that are tight are gonna get the tree 1st or 2nd,. hard to beat a handler.

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Posted by cooncrazy30 on 09-09-2011 05:58 AM:

Its hard to beat atight mouth dog aslong as when he gets byself he has the meat!! Even in one hour hunts usually his coon is on the outside an it didnt run far!!! An i have been shut out cause the tight mouth dog struck an treed before anything eles opened!!!

Posted by chuck west on 09-09-2011 05:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by max destruction
Tite mouth dogs can be 1st strike dogs!

and can leave many dogs behind in the dust ,,,lol

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-09-2011 05:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by max destruction
Tite mouth dogs can be 1st strike dogs!

Not in this country.

Posted by josh on 09-09-2011 07:06 PM:

I absolutely hate mouthy dogs.

It seems to me there is at least 2 babblers on every cast, but in reality that probably isnt the case.

We have a tendancy to remember the 1 time we got beat by that me-too babbler but forget the times we got flat out beat by a coondog.

There are PLENTY of winning dogs that werent mouthy.

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Posted by BLCKRIVREDBONES on 09-09-2011 09:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Not in this country.

What??? Just because a dog is tight on track doesn't mean it won't get first strike. I've seen plenty of dogs that would strike then go almost silent and fall treed. Short races because the coon didn't know it was getting dogged.

There's a big difference between a still mouth dog and a tight mouth dog.

Posted by Jason Reisert on 09-09-2011 11:11 PM:

tight mouthed

A hound that leaves the lead strap like a rocket focusing only on getting a coon treed as fast as possible, alone or with company, without trashin, or staying in the ground, would be deadly in most terrains, whether it opened a lot or not. I agree that an average tight mouth dog wouldn't be worth a hoot in thick coons. With a great one it wouldn't matter in a 2hr. hunt of any registry.

Posted by chuck west on 09-09-2011 11:23 PM:

btt

quote:
Originally posted by BLCKRIVREDBONES
What??? Just because a dog is tight on track doesn't mean it won't get first strike. I've seen plenty of dogs that would strike then go almost silent and fall treed. Short races because the coon didn't know it was getting dogged.

There's a big difference between a still mouth dog and a tight mouth dog.

you gave him the right answer before i got to ,,thanks chuck west

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