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Posted by olie_7002 on 02-29-2008 09:08 PM:

why are we treated 3rd rate

What i dont understand is why is it that every major outdoor store will not have anything for coon hunting, its really begins to piss me off, we are just as important as everyone else.

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Posted by harrow on 02-29-2008 09:53 PM:

I've wondered that also.

I've called a few stores, big chain stores asking if they carried coon lights and they either hsd no idea what I was talking about or were really off on what they thought was a light. One store showed me a million candle power spot light. nice, but would only last about 1/2 hr. other than that they usually don't have a clue what I'm looking for.


Posted by Buckshot on 02-29-2008 10:09 PM:

I have a Gander Mountain 2 miles from the house they put in about 2 years ago.

I was in there the other day in the trapping section was surprised to see some Western Rivers Lights.

None of the small or large scale hunting stores around here carry anything for coon hunting let alone hardly anything for hunting dogs.


Posted by COALMINER28 on 02-29-2008 10:22 PM:

gander mtn. around here carries the garmin astros and tri tronics!....thats about it o

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Posted by GA DAWG on 02-29-2008 10:22 PM:

Basspro has coon squallers lol...They have leads,shockers and astro 220s also have a few dog boxes but they are HIGH!!


Posted by olie_7002 on 02-29-2008 10:31 PM:

I really do hunt everything so i go to about every outdoor store i can find. When i see some of the crap they carry and then them not having a **** thing for tree dogs make me so angry.

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Posted by truly on 02-29-2008 10:36 PM:

Re: why are we treated 3rd rate

quote:
Originally posted by olie_7002
What i dont understand is why is it that every major outdoor store will not have anything for coon hunting, its really begins to piss me off, we are just as important as everyone else.

i think howard thompson keeps gear in stock. lights leads etc. he is in central [slightly northern iowa]. if you dont know him or need his number i should be able to find it. let me know.


Posted by jackback on 03-02-2008 03:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by COALMINER28
gander mtn. around here carries the garmin astros and tri tronics!....thats about it o


Thats only because both of those are intended for bird dogs. I know the Trashbreaker is intended for coon dogs, but the rest of Tri-Tronics is for bird dogs.


Posted by countryfeller on 03-02-2008 03:10 AM:

because theres not many of us

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Posted by daustin on 03-02-2008 04:06 AM:

There are plenty of us. But how many of us have the disposable income of a bird hunter? When was the last time any of us spent $1200 for an 8wk old pup? The typical bird hunter makes more than most of us coon hunters.

Dane


Posted by countryfeller on 03-02-2008 04:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by daustin
There are plenty of us. But how many of us have the disposable income of a bird hunter? When was the last time any of us spent $1200 for an 8wk old pup? The typical bird hunter makes more than most of us coon hunters.

Dane



I mean theres not many of us in comparison to deer hunters or turkey hunters.

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Posted by cj. on 03-02-2008 04:54 AM:

it would be nice if the local sportshop carried everything for our coonhunting needs, but lets get real, the market is not very big AT all compared to deer hunting ..... why would a store carry coon hunting supplies that they are just going to sit on.


Posted by joey+redticks on 03-02-2008 05:03 AM:

supply and demand...i still think they should at least get a couple of things..today i was at cabelas looking for trakin collars and all it was was stupid bird dog crap no offense to u guys but whats the use of a tracker that goes a hundred yards..but what is a couple hundred bucks to a store like cabelas to buy one coondog tracking system..the lights the same thing just for spotting deer and just plain lights i dont even no if they had a spot for trapping


Posted by coonhunterky on 03-02-2008 05:44 AM:

jackback

IS EXCATLEY RITE


Posted by olie_7002 on 03-02-2008 06:34 AM:

first off, There are two lines of bull **** on here. THere are more then of enough of to sustain a market. and I run to bird dogs that would blow anyones mind. its not always the money compared to time with the dogs. Im very new to this world but i learned very fast , it is so much harder to train coon dogs. im going to open a kennel for brid dogs and this has been a very humbling experince training tree dogs. There is no reason that cabelas or bass pro cannot carry coon hunting equipment. I will bet nuts to marbles there are more houndsman then people who spend 4oo dollars for a dang old tent for camping.

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Posted by BRANDON SOSACK on 03-02-2008 06:46 AM:

In my opinion and that by no means is an expert opinion but we have almost run our course in coon hunting. There ten times as many coon hunters in the decades before this one. Hunting spots are vanishing fast, not enough youth getting involved and it almost seems like it is becoming a rich man sports today. With all the fancy gadgets we have to have to tree a coon. I am guilty of keeping up with the Jones myself. As for 1200 dollar puppies the coon hunting world has seen plenty of even more expensive pups than that price. But I bet in fifty years we will not be free casting hounds anymore. It is kind of sad but it is probably the cold hard truth. There is simply not enough money in coon hunting supplies for large corporate companies to get involved with coon hunting supplies. Besides why would you want large chains who do not have a clue about coon hunting selling you products? I like the dealers we have now a days they mostly coon hunt and can help you out anyway you need to be helped.

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Posted by reddogg68 on 03-02-2008 01:50 PM:

sad

Lack of convenience is the most frustrating thing for me.I would love to be able to see firsthand what I want to buy.I spend more coonhunting than turkey hunting but remember beagle hunters would use alot of the same things coonhunters do so there is quite a few people but hound hunting is not politically correct in many peoples eyes so this hurts.We participate in the most attacked form of hunting.

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Posted by joey+redticks on 03-02-2008 01:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by olie_7002
I will bet nuts to marbles there are more houndsman then people who spend 4oo dollars for a dang old tent for camping.



couldnt have said it better they have tons of those tents stop buying a couple o those and get some coondog supplies for us..especially since those places are suposed to have stuff for everything in outdoors..walmart and tsc doesnt have that stuff so u say woohoo lets go to cabelas and get it it may cost twice as much but there gonna have it u get there and ur gonna be dissapointed nowadays u my as well get a pay pal account and buy it off the internet


Posted by olie_7002 on 03-02-2008 03:20 PM:

hound hunting is not politically correct in many peoples eyes so this hurts.We participate in the most attacked form of hunting.





ITs very true and it is a sad day when then can determine a free market. Its a sad thing when we spend so much more time in the woods then the weekend warrior deer hunter. I just want a fair shake. I what i cant figure out, is those trappers are under a ton of fire too, but its alot eayser to find traps then a tracking collar.

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Posted by mjflores on 03-02-2008 03:43 PM:

Why are coonhunters considered "third rate"? Just read the comments on threads posted regarding hound medical questions, and all the political threads....It'll all suddenly become very clear.

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Posted by Paul Jones on 03-02-2008 03:46 PM:

even if they had the stuff we want we still wouldn't be happy. i bought a bark collar at gander mountian and the battery went dead so i goes to gander to get a new battery yesterday you think they had one, noooo so i say to the guy could you sell me one out of one of the new collars, noooo so i say do ya know where i can get one noooo we are alot better of buying our stuff out of a catalog like we do. they specialize in what we are buying and appriciate our money .and give us service after the sale. and when they spend our money its more likely to go into the workin mans economy. just my thought


Posted by Justin Smith on 03-02-2008 03:49 PM:

Why would you give Cabela's and such your money instead of supporting the coonhunters that sell our supplies ?

That's a better question in my book ...


Posted by redneck_girl on 03-02-2008 04:23 PM:

In Ashland, Ohio.... Fin Feather and Fur Outfitters has ABOUT all you need. In my opinion they carry more than Gander Mountain in Sheffield. As a matter of fact we bought Dave's new Nite Lite there. But your right, as a general rule, it is hard to find anything for coonhunters. Vendors at the events are normally very helpful, although ussualy more expensive. (for obvious reasons). Online is a great way to shop, but then you have to wait for delivery. For all these reasons, is exactly why, I'm researching the in's and out's of opening my own store, hopefully here in Wakeman for ALL hunters needs. I can retire in 14 years and will need something to keep me busy, but not have to be under someone else's authority.

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Posted by joey+redticks on 03-02-2008 04:41 PM:

ive been to fin feather and fur thats a really cool store its not as big as cabelas or bass pro but it is still pretty cool i didnt really look around for coonhunting supplies since we were on our way to pennsylvania for deer season but it was a cool place they have one of them white spotted deer not a fawn but u know i forget wat its called


Posted by TYLER LEIER on 03-02-2008 05:08 PM:

I may only be 15 but i asked my buisness teacher about this a couple months ago and she said that when there arnt many people who are looking for a item they wont stock any because all it does is takes up room and they never get rid of them. Also when stores buy inventory they like to buy it in high quantities so it costs less. Thats why prices are so high and stores do not stock them.

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