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Posted by NHBLUDOG on 02-05-2010 12:18 AM:

looking for Opinions Hip Dysplasia

Just wondering what everyone thinks about Breeding a Hound that Has Hip Dysplasia? It is very rare to see this in Hounds if you Had a good Hound would you breed it knowing it had Hip Dysplasia ? taking a chance on passing it on to your pups and and there Pups hurting the Breed ? Its been seen alot in Labs German shepards ond alot of others Breeds it is sad to see in young dogs. would you Breed or Not. what would be the Moral and right thing to Do. Looking for Opinions ?

Posted by Mike_Flores on 02-05-2010 12:28 AM:

Not sure about hounds but I know in Labs and Setters it's a genetic trait, so it would be passed down to the offspring and introduce a genetic variable to the bloodline.

Posted by 3-dogpackleader on 02-05-2010 01:03 AM:

I have pondered this question myself, my opinion though, is that if you know the hound has hip diplaysia you should not breed the dog, no matter how good of a dog it is. Genetically they will pass the trait onto their offspring. JMO.
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Posted by CaneToad on 02-05-2010 04:55 AM:

Breeding in a defect like Hip Dysplasia is just plain stupid…..IMO

Posted by Candianblueboy on 02-05-2010 11:55 PM:

With all the of the negative results showing up with the Labs due to these pupy mills breeding inferior dogs and passing this defect through out different dogs there is no way that anyone should ever breed a hound with this issue. If anyone were to know of this being done, it there best interest as a true hounds man or women to report it to UKC and hopefully they will deal with it in the proper way.

It would have a spider web effect to all future breeding of the pups.

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Posted by Buckshot on 02-06-2010 05:44 AM:

I have a basset with it and the first thing I had done was neuter him...........it is a genetic hereditary fault.

Posted by NH_walker001 on 02-07-2010 12:13 AM:

guess ill keep you posted on the outcome in the spring....

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Posted by jackbob42 on 02-07-2010 01:26 AM:

Did you register the pups?

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Posted by jackbob42 on 02-07-2010 04:56 AM:

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Originally posted by mdufresne
...... It should be our goal as dog men and women to improve the breed and make carefull choices when it comes to breeding.

How you could say such a thing and then condone breeding a dog with such a genetic fault is beyond me!

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Posted by Buckshot on 02-07-2010 06:04 AM:

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Originally posted by mdufresne
Anger and Jelousy are what ruin this sport........why worry about something that has nothing to do with you.

I don't think discussing Hip Dysplasia which is a genetic hereditary fault is about jealousy or anger...........I will say that the comment having nothing to do with anyone is not true.

Why do I say this? Because of future generations of dogs bred with this fault.........I know first hand has I have a hound with Hip Dysplasia that came from another hound with this fault. I had him cut as not to pass this fault on to the next generation and so on.

I don't doubt hounds with Hip Dysplasia can hunt......My dog can run better than he can walk........but has hard time on hills and climbing stairs and etc.............He's still young -- don't know how bad the condition will get down the road.

Some dogs with Hip Dysplasia can go a lifetime till the end before problems develop.........or they can be pups when problems develop (I know that personally), or can be crippled by the time their 3 or 4 years old.

I guess for me personally, it was a no brainer when he was diagnosed with Hip Dysplasia..........No reason to pass that on more hounds knowing the effects this fault can cause. I knew it was the right ethical decision.

Hip Dysplasia is not like a fault like underbite or overbite, off color from the standards, flat footed, and etc... that effects the dogs hunting.

Hip Dysplasia is a fault that can hinder and effect a dog from hunting due to the debilitating effects of the disease.

What good is a hound that can get the job done but is crippled and broke down by 4 years old because of Hip Dysplasia?

Again discussing Hip Dysplasia has nothing to do with jealousy or anger.....not sure why you want to slant it that well.

Posted by bow on 02-07-2010 10:43 AM:

bad hips

i have a dog of the same caliber that you are talking about and wount breed her because she has short ears. it is the breed you should think about and you dont know were the pups will end up down the road.john

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Posted by NHBLUDOG on 02-07-2010 06:26 PM:

Hounds

About 20 years ago I used to hunt with a Guy that had a awesome Bluetick Male he had Bad hips the guy probly had 4000 Dollars in this dogs Hips he had the dog operated on a couple times the dog lived to an old age and like I said was a awesome coon hound we were hunting one nite and he said Im breeding my old male to my Female I said man he is a good Hound But I think your nuts to take a chance of producing the same thing. the more he thought about He changed his Mind and did not breed the dog . that was a good choice in my OPINION He was thinking of the Breed ! we Have sent hounds on for Bad traits that are not half as bad as Hip Dysplatia . You can breed YOUR hounds How ever you want and to what ever you want after all they are yours . I personaly like to breed to Hounds That are good and sound and if I sell a pup I want that pup to be as healthy as it can Be and if it has issues in the Future I want to Know about it . I would be a little Upset if someone sold me a pup Knowingly that the sire or the Dam Had Hip Dysplatia in any Manner Bad or not so Bad This is My Opinion thats it. Good hunting to all John

Posted by bow on 02-07-2010 07:42 PM:

breeding

If you are reading this article, you are probably considering breeding your dog in the near or distant future. First of all, I wish to commend you for researching this sometimes controversial topic. Secondly, if you decide to breed your dog, please commit to providing the very best care for your dog and the puppies. As a breeder you will need to recognize this commitment extends to placing the puppies in trustworthy and loving homes.

This article is not intended to discourage an individual who is wholeheartedly determined to breed a better specimen of their particular breed. It is however, meant to discourage the individual who may look at their dogs as easy money making opportunity. Consider the time, money and effort involved in producing a litter and make sure you are physically, emotionally and financially ready to begin a breeding program.

Please make sure you are starting out with the healthiest male and female possible, spend time researching your breed, are there certain lines that live longer and have fewer health issues than other lines? Familiarize yourself with you breed’s written standard, make sure you understand what the terms mean that are used in your breed’s written standard.

As you breed and develop your bloodline, please make sure you place pups that should not be bred in homes that will spay or neuter. Always be responsible for the puppies you are creating. Commit to making yourself available to the families you place your puppies with, following these guidelines will help you become a responsible breeder.

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Posted by NHBLUDOG on 02-07-2010 08:27 PM:

Did I miss a post or something ? I was up nawth this weekend and not on the comp ?

Posted by dogfaceNH on 02-07-2010 09:41 PM:

Missed Post

Yes you did! Somebody didn't appear to be very happy with your question. I replied to your question but got scared after I saw the post and deleted mine. wd

Posted by NHBLUDOG on 02-07-2010 09:46 PM:

Looking for OPINIONS on Breeding with Hip Dysplatia should not anger anyone ?

Posted by NH_walker001 on 02-07-2010 10:41 PM:

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Posted by NH_walker001 on 02-07-2010 10:42 PM:

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Originally posted by NHBLUDOG
Looking for OPINIONS on Breeding with Hip Dysplatia shoud not anger anyone ?

i am also confused by your post are you pionting this at a person just beating around the bush... there must be more behind this for you

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Posted by Candianblueboy on 02-08-2010 12:48 AM:

I can atest to NHBludogs love of his hounds and who he sells them to. I bought 2 off of him 4 yrs ago and he still calls from time to time checking on them. That is a man that cares about his dogs and bloodlines. I think if we all bred our dogs with care and followed them along after selling pups, we would have better hounds in the end. I know I would be pissed if I looked back in my pedigree and seen a dog with issues and it started showing up in my dogs.

JMO take it however you like.

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Posted by Buckshot on 02-08-2010 03:51 AM:

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Posted by Regan H on 02-08-2010 06:02 AM:

bad breeding

dont out cross your dog if they dont have it!

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Posted by Regan H on 02-08-2010 06:08 AM:

HLBLUDOG

dont even consider it forget it only the best to the best all the way around no fizacal defects

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Posted by Regan H on 02-08-2010 06:12 AM:

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amen caintoad

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Posted by Regan H on 02-08-2010 06:40 AM:

bow

I like long ears but wast between them is what counts!

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Posted by NHBLUDOG on 02-08-2010 10:33 AM:

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Sorry I missed the Deleted post.wonder wy they were Deleted?

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