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Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 01:09 AM:

what in the hell??

Took a dog out that hasn't shown anything special yet she is about year and half has ran and treed with other dogs before I am trying get her on coon but loves run deer put e-colar on her and bumped it when running deer then wouldn't leave my feet so took collar off and she started tracking fig. was deer but then she started treeing when got to her was running back and forth on bank of pond running in and out of water?? walked her around the pond hoping would pick up track again never did not a clue what it was.

Posted by B&LKennels on 11-29-2011 01:42 AM:

Re: what in the hell??

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Originally posted by bluetikz
Took a dog out that hasn't shown anything special yet she is about year and half has ran and treed with other dogs before I am trying get her on coon but loves run deer put e-colar on her and bumped it when running deer then wouldn't leave my feet so took collar off and she started tracking fig. was deer but then she started treeing when got to her was running back and forth on bank of pond running in and out of water?? walked her around the pond hoping would pick up track again never did not a clue what it was.

Probly a steelhead fish they can walk on land.Was a big thing a couple years ago. LOL

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Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 01:48 AM:

dont think those things are round here haha Im thinking dog just dumb as hell barking at water but dont know

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 11-29-2011 02:07 AM:

Not every dog knows to swim behind the coon (persued game) unless taught by an older dog.

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Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 02:11 AM:

could a coon have stayed in the water that long was there 15 min atleast and if would have came out she shoulda picked it back up on other side

Posted by l.lyle on 11-29-2011 02:24 AM:

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Originally posted by Jonathan Crump
Not every dog knows to swim behind the coon (persued game) unless taught by an older dog.

It is called Water Barking. I hunt in the marsh where there is a miriad of small to not so small creeks. I have seen many many grown dogs do it. That's why mine are all trained with a trained dog. I have seen some fellows walk and bog out there to get their dog after an hour or two of that stuff. Now that's funny. You might even think they were treed if there was anything taller than a blade of grass to tree on. Some just sit down and bawl a "Come get me bark" all night. Keep hunting it around water and don't go get it till the next day or two or train it with water dogs.

Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 02:26 AM:

Thanks sure did sound nice haha

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 11-29-2011 03:31 AM:

Wifes grandpa had a blue english female that a coon couldn't get away from. We watched her swim the cove of a large lake behind a coon and then tree it on the other side. I started out hunting a blue english male that was started with her. One night sounded like he was treed running and then just stopped and aprox 3 minutes later he blowed up treed on the side of a pond. He had the meat and the guys I was hunting with their dogs didn't know what was going on. He died before I could get one trained to swim with him.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-29-2011 03:48 AM:

I use to go to a man trailing seminar in eastern Okla. The man that put it on would lay a track to a pond that had tall hills on three sides of it. He would walk the track into the pond, sit around for a while to let his scent get strong in there, then walk straight up the side of one of the hills and walk back home.
He would put the most adavnced handler and blood hound on the track every six months he did this at the seminare and never had anyone that had enough since to take there dog to the top of the hill and cut the track away from the water. They would waller around down in all that scent till we got threw laughing and went and picked them up.
They scent is stronger at the water and they think they are back tracking by leaveing strong scent for a weaker track out. If you don't have a dog to teach it leash it up and make a big circle around the pond or what ever till the dog hits the track leaveing the place. Let it lead you away far enough it won't go back. Then cut it loose again.

OR ir you have a good handle on your dog tell it to get the ___ out of there and walk the way it need to go to most likely hit the same coon. The leash thing is better becouse you have more control on getting it back on the same coon.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-29-2011 03:58 AM:

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Originally posted by Jonathan Crump
Wifes grandpa had a blue english female that a coon couldn't get away from. We watched her swim the cove of a large lake behind a coon and then tree it on the other side. I started out hunting a blue english male that was started with her. One night sounded like he was treed running and then just stopped and aprox 3 minutes later he blowed up treed on the side of a pond. He had the meat and the guys I was hunting with their dogs didn't know what was going on. He died before I could get one trained to swim with him.

I have never had one that wouldn't swim big bodies of water behind a coon but I wish mine wouldn't. I have about lost a couple catching them in the middle of the cove of a lake and a 38 acre pond. One will allways out swim the other and one dog on one coon in big bodies of water isn't a pritty sight. Two is no sure thing if they have far to swim. Now if they can get to were they can touch bottom the coon has been had.

Posted by 8hawg on 11-29-2011 04:32 AM:

The infamous "GEASEL" part goose part weasel, excellent on land and water. Can really make a dog look bad at times. I have ran many of them. I think alot of others have ran them too, but won't admit to it. Funny thing about these critters is you never really see them, but you know they're out there.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-29-2011 04:39 AM:

All these guys with lots of dogs forget how it is to train with out another dogs help. LOL

Posted by l.lyle on 11-29-2011 04:55 AM:

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All these guys with lots of dogs forget how it is to train with out another dogs help. LOL

I wouldn't even consider it after all those years of doing it the hard way.

Posted by l.lyle on 11-29-2011 05:04 AM:

This is a rerun of last March and i don't have any fresh video yet this year. Even though they have already swum a smaller river last week and it cost me all night long getting the back. I wish they would not swim the big water either but if they would not persue across little 50 yard wide creeks I might as well not hunt.

On this video they had trailed out to the end of that marsh before they jumped and they were bringing that coon back for the second time. A squeky toungue pup headed him off and made him take to the river right where an alligator was waiting. You can hear the old dog catch the coon and when I walk up there the dog and the coon go under you can see the alligator on the right hand side of the screen next to the bank. The dog drowned the coon and got out without getting ate by the Gator.

Posted by yadkinriver on 11-29-2011 02:48 PM:

Re: what in the hell??

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bluetikz
[B]Took a dog out that hasn't shown anything special yet she is about year and half has ran and treed with other dogs before I am trying get her on coon but loves run deer put e-colar on her and bumped it when running deer then wouldn't leave my feet so took collar off and she started tracking fig. was deer but then she started treeing when got to her was running back and forth on bank of pond running in and out of water?? walked her around the pond hoping would pick up track again never did not a clue what it was. [/B
There is always the possibility of a beaver. A lot of young dogs like them.

Posted by Larry Atherton on 11-29-2011 03:00 PM:

I have seen hounds tree mink. If you walked the dog all the way around the pond without a strike, my bet would be she ran a mink. I have also seen mink over 1 mile from water.

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Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 03:10 PM:

Its a small private pond dnt thnk was mink thanksfor all ideas though and nice video earlier
And yes tryin to train with out a broke dog is what I am doing little work haha

Posted by 8hawg on 11-29-2011 03:55 PM:

It was a "Geasel", I just know it. I know we got them here, I am almost sure they live anywhere a coon would live. They love to fool with them young hounds and sometimes the old broke dog. Dang pesky critters. (:

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Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 06:48 PM:

beat it was 8hawg when you wana go snipe hunting??

Posted by 8hawg on 11-29-2011 07:23 PM:

Don't know much about them "Snipes", but sure would like to finally catch one of the danged ole "Geasels" them darn things sure can drive a man and his hound NUTS !(:

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-29-2011 08:20 PM:

Geasel Cought !!!!! lol

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Posted by bluetikz on 11-29-2011 08:23 PM:

Wth is tht thng you are close enough tht I gta have same thngs runnin around

Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-29-2011 10:15 PM:

Or it Could have Been the Jumbo "Geasel" lol

Heck We Catch All them Critters

Posted by 8hawg on 11-29-2011 10:29 PM:

Your not fooling me that ain't no "Geasel". I'm not sure what one looks like, but your not tricking me! (:

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-29-2011 10:44 PM:

This is one of those Mof***&&#}|# !!!!!!!

Or one of these Gressed Geasels

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