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Posted by Maniac on 11-20-2009 12:18 AM:

Have A Question For The Excpert

CAN YOU BURN A YOUNG DOG 18 MONTHS OLD OUT BY HUNTING HIM 7 NIGHTS A WEEK DARK TILL DAY LIGHT????

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Posted by Stokes08 on 11-20-2009 12:24 AM:

what do you think if it dont he should be a hell of a dog though

Posted by Chiggers on 11-20-2009 12:36 AM:

Re: Have A Question For The Excpert

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Originally posted by Maniac
CAN YOU BURN A YOUNG DOG OUT BY HUNTING HIM 7 NIGHTS A WEEK DARK TILL DAY LIGHT????

I dont know about expert but I have never saw a dog that I thought was an A-1 Coondog that was not hunted half to death at some point and time in its life.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-20-2009 12:38 AM:

I don't know and don't know an expert but I have talked to a lot of people that will let there pups run loose in the country to get a lot of free experience on tracking before they have to start following them. Some swear by it. It wouldn't be something I would want to do BUT I guess they hunt till they get tired of it then lay down. I would say if they can be burned out it isn't a pup I would want but any of them are going to slow down when they get over loaded, tired or sore. I would rather leave mine wanting a little more and keep there drive up.
My little 5 month old is going a little harder all the time as his little humming bird rump gets bigger and bigger. I love to watch it.

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Posted by swampmusic2005 on 11-20-2009 01:25 AM:

i think it would be very easy to burn a pup out... i'm no expert but if u were making me do something 12 hours a night for 7 nights a week sooner or later i'd find a big tree to hide behind... also i've discovered that a dogs mind is kinda like a chalk board if it does something right lay the dog up for a few days and leave that writing on the board for it to think about so-to-speak, but if the dog appears to be giving 100% 7 nights a week then hunt it i guess... all dogs are different

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Posted by atank on 11-20-2009 01:48 AM:

THINK OF IT AS A SMALL CHILD THEY LEARN AT THE RATE OF DIFFERENT LEVELS I'VE SEEN YOUNG DOGS YOU COULDN' T BURN OUT WITH A TORCH + 6 OR 7 HARD NITES (VERY FEW) JUST KNOW YOUR DOG WATCH HIS ACTIONS AND HE'LL TELL YOU AND GOOD FOOD. I NO I CANT WORK ALL DAY ON A TWINKIE

Posted by HOBO on 11-20-2009 02:05 AM:

I'd think it would depend on the age of this young dog.

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Posted by dogfaceNH on 11-20-2009 02:28 AM:

Originally posted by swampmusic2005 [/i]
[B]also i'i think it would be very easy to burn a pup out... i'm no expert but if u were making me do something 12 hours a night for 7 nights a week sooner or later i'd find a big tree to hide behind... ve discovered that a dogs mind is kinda like a chalk board if it does something right lay the dog up for a few days and leave that writing on the board for it to think about.

Couldn't agree with you more, great reply imo, wd.

Posted by Autumn Clements on 11-20-2009 04:08 AM:

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I'd think it would depend on the age of this young dog.

enough said there

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Posted by Maniac on 11-20-2009 02:07 PM:

IS A YOUNG HOUND LIKE A KID THAT GOS TO THE CANDY STORE EVERDAY????

Posted by treberta on 11-20-2009 02:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
IS A YOUNG HOUND LIKE A KID THAT GOS TO THE CANDY STORE EVERDAY????

LOL intresting concept. I have personally seen a few dogs ruined by hunting them to death. I have also seen some look very good BUT all of them went through a rought patch before being finished. It mainley depends on youre dogs hatred for a racoon.

Posted by Richard Nethery on 11-20-2009 02:18 PM:

Im no expert, but How can a person make a living if they hunt all night long Seven Days a week, There is no way you can work during the day and do that? Just curious.

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Posted by treberta on 11-20-2009 02:45 PM:

quote:
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Im no expert, but How can a person make a living if they hunt all night long Seven Days a week, There is no way you can work during the day and do that? Just curious.

Richard "alot of people that coon hunt don't work" Most by choice. Although I do know several that were laid off and looking for a job.

Posted by amazeagle on 11-20-2009 03:16 PM:

Would you get burned out if you worked 7 days a week without a day off for months? Some can handle it some can't, every hound is an individual. It's a question you have to determine the answer yourself on the hound in question. Nobody on this board can answer it for you,too many variables involved.

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Posted by Dale Young on 11-20-2009 04:50 PM:

Dad use to tell me ' anything you're doing with a dog , watch'em and take them away while they still want to keep going. Don't let them go til they quit on their own.'

Deciding when enough is enough would be the hard part. Some seem to be a little too smart to work extra hard and others have a one track mind with a single purpose in life and lots of drive & heart to get it done. God help you if that purpose is something other than what you want.

Posted by Randy Tallon on 11-20-2009 06:15 PM:

Ask any person what happens to them when they train(weightlifting, boxers, marathon runners, etc) that much with no down time. I'm talking about athletes that are getting proper sleep and supplementing their diet with top shelf health supplements. The body starts to break down, constantly tired, and injuries happen too easy at that point. Why would a dog be any different?

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Posted by blues07 on 11-20-2009 09:00 PM:

im sure as hell no expert and im still learning but ive seen alot of dogs get burnt out its like a kid if u keep on them and push them to hard at a young age they will hate it well young dogs are the same way there is a surten time to start hunting them hard it prolly wen they are treeing repetively live some has siad if they are young and take them out and if they do good set them up and let the think bout it ive trained dogs not coon dogs but family dogs and i would teach them to sit and basics and ive done it to much to them and they wouldnt listen to me any more and ive had some that ive done ot lil at a time at ayoung age and they are very smart at it

like ive said there is a time to push them and there is a time not to and every dog is diffrent i went and got a female that was runing loose up time 6 months and it helped her alot to

but im sure no expert but its wat ive seen but good luck

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Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 11-20-2009 09:07 PM:

Re: Have A Question For The Excpert

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CAN YOU BURN A YOUNG DOG 18 MONTHS OLD OUT BY HUNTING HIM 7 NIGHTS A WEEK DARK TILL DAY LIGHT????

I am absolutely certain you "CAN". How long it takes and what kind of impact is has is going to be determined on a dog by dog basis.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 11-20-2009 09:23 PM:

This question can probably best be answered this way. If you truly want to find out, load the dog, put on your light, and do it. See who gets tired of it first, you or the dog. Just you and your dog, no second handler, no driving to get closer. You take the same path or route to that dog at the tree that he took. I bet you'll find out that YOU burn out before that little bugger does.

I have never hunted 7 nights dark till dawn in one week in my life. The dog that I am running currently, has never been run that hard. The dog doesn't know any better. He just keeps going until I stop unsnapping him.

This discussion is much like the dog food discussions, you are gonna get multiple answers from multiple sources. Best to try it yourself, and then you'll have some real scientific data to work with. I sure don't have the info!

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Posted by jculler8 on 11-20-2009 09:37 PM:

if hes a good 1 he'll wear you or 2 or 3 guys out b4 he wears out.

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Posted by swampmusic2005 on 11-20-2009 09:51 PM:

i've already given my 2 cents worth on this topic but i began thinking about it today... if yourdog is hunting 7 nights a week from dark till daylight then that means your out there in the woods also... arent you begining to get a lil burnt out also? i mean i love coonhunting but i couldn't do it that much why should any dog be any different much less a puppy??

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Posted by Dogwhisper on 11-20-2009 10:09 PM:

Don't think u need an expert to give u an answer to that ?

Hunting a young prospect dark till daylite, 7 days a week is just plain stupid.

And if you do, then u get what u deserve.....
a burned out/messed up young dog.

HHuuuumm......

Just think about IT for awhile.

Originally posted by Maniac
IS A YOUNG HOUND LIKE A KID THAT GOS TO THE CANDY STORE EVERDAY????

Something is definately wrong with your parenting skill(training method), if you let that kid(dog) go to the candy store(hunting) everyday.

Posted by booth79 on 11-20-2009 10:10 PM:

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if i got whipped kicked shocked beat on night in night out yeah i really wouldnt have the desire 2 tree a coon either 574-223-4384 chris booth

Posted by Maniac on 11-20-2009 10:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dogwhisper
Don't think u need an expert to give u an answer to that ?

Hunting a young prospect dark till daylite, 7 days a week is just plain stupid.

And if you do, then u get what u deserve.....
a burned out/messed up young dog.

HHuuuumm......

Just think about IT for awhile.

Originally posted by Maniac
IS A YOUNG HOUND LIKE A KID THAT GOS TO THE CANDY STORE EVERDAY????

Something is definately wrong with your parenting skill(training method), if you let that kid(dog) go to the candy store(hunting) everyday.

GEORGE YOU KNOW I KNOW WHAT IM DOING . HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I BEEN IN THE WINNING CIRCLE??? I WAS JUST BORED AND WANT TO SEE WHAT THE EXCPERTS ANWSER WAS. THATS FOR ALL YOUR OPIONS.

Posted by Dogwhisper on 11-20-2009 10:52 PM:

OK Jay.
I'll try real hard to humor you.

You were just born. LOL

Thats no excuse for stupidity.LOL
Have fun Jay.
Don't get to rough on them.
I'm done here, Later .

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