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Bought a walker, have a question.

So I bought a 23 month old walker female. She has a 1st and 2nd in UKC. Tonight was the first night I hunted her, and she only milled around within 100 yards. I figure it's because I'm new to her. She also was weaned off pups about 2 weeks ago, and she hasn't been hunted in probably 4 months. So my question is if I keep taking her will she start hunting out good?

Yes she should,,nut I would spend as much time as you can with her so she gets more used to you,,,a happy dog aims to please its owner

Hunt her every night you can, if you get frustrated because she is just milling around, put her back in the box.
I would avoid whipping or yelling it usually just doesn't work.

There's a chance she has never been hunted alone before if this is the case it will be a long and slow process for her to start to range.

Over time she should start to go further and further.
She may also always be a closer Hunter though that will only hunt 200 to 300 yards.

However over time as you learn your woods unless you live in really thin coon, this should be far enough.

One thing to keep in mind how far they range doesn't always equate to how many coon they tree. I have seen a lot of dogs that will get in there really deep and have a tendency to come up empty or slick on the other hand though it can become frustrating hunting a dog that is lazy. It is quite common for a dog to hunt close alone but with another dog he or she will go much deeper.

However until you have hunted the dog 30 nights or so, it's hard to know what you really have imo.

I hope this helps

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I've got her on two week trial, so hopefully she picks up in that time frame.

We hang out in a barn a lot, would it be a good idea to have her in there with me to get used to me faster?

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Originally posted by Yote Trapper
We hang out in a barn a lot, would it be a good idea to have her in there with me to get used to me faster?

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

He's asking $900. She has a 1st and 2nd place win in ukc hunts. Don't know if that means much.

Glad to hear you got her on a trial.Thats the main thing with buying these dogs.If you try before you buy you can't get burnt.Id hunt her 2 weeks and if she don't start hunting and treeing coons Id take her back in a heartbeat.Honestly Id tell the guy she any worth that kinda money cause she ant doing nothing.Goodluck

send her back and dont waste your time!!!!

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Originally posted by Jackson87
Glad to hear you got her on a trial.Thats the main thing with buying these dogs.If you try before you buy you can't get burnt.Id hunt her 2 weeks and if she don't start hunting and treeing coons Id take her back in a heartbeat.Honestly Id tell the guy she any worth that kinda money cause she ant doing nothing.Goodluck

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

So I was feeding my mountain cur and the walker this morning when the walker jumped my cur. She had him by the neck and wouldn't let go. That's the first time I have seen her act aggressive. I assume I should seperate them at feeding from now on. I beat her pretty bad to get her off of the cur. Is this going to slow up the process of her getting use to me?

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Originally posted by Yote Trapper
So I was feeding my mountain cur and the walker this morning when the walker jumped my cur. She had him by the neck and wouldn't let go. That's the first time I have seen her act aggressive. I assume I should seperate them at feeding from now on. I beat her pretty bad to get her off of the cur. Is this going to slow up the process of her getting use to me?

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Originally posted by Yote Trapper
So I was feeding my mountain cur and the walker this morning when the walker jumped my cur. She had him by the neck and wouldn't let go. That's the first time I have seen her act aggressive. I assume I should seperate them at feeding from now on. I beat her pretty bad to get her off of the cur. Is this going to slow up the process of her getting use to me?

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I'm not going to judge your dog from afar, but I have a 3 yr old female that is as nice as any dog around them in the box or the woods. She's even been attacked at the tree without fighting back! But another dog better not go near her at the food dish! She'll even nip at her own pups at the food dish.

So... I wouldn't cast any judgement on your dog, for how they act around food.

Heck I have a brother in law, I wouldn't go near when he's eating, but that doesn't mean I disown him!

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I would x2 what the last guy said. Lots of dogs get aggressive when it comes to food but don't have an I'll bone in it's body otherwise. But I'd just take that dog a couple more times and if she don't do anything, I'd say she's just always been hunted with other dogs and can't do it yet on her own.

Food aggression doesn't equal Tree aggression, I would say that all that means is the dog was fed alone a lot or your cur has been fed alone a lot or both. I would consider this a bad habit, it can typically be fixed in a younger dog but will take time and energy. Were you there supervising?
If your feeding dogs together in a pen you should always supervise. Feed your older dog first, making the younger dogs wait. This helps enforce order in your pack and teaches the younger dogs to respect there elders. Some growls are ok and are more of a warning that" i want some space while eating." However if the dog not eating is showing aggressive dominant behavior towards the dog eating I would correct that dog. If you left the dogs unsupervised and allowed it to escalate to this point, I would say the fault is your own.

This is a perfect example why I NEVER let my dogs go on trial. Too many guys don't have enough training experience, and allow negative things to happen to a dog, that can leave a lasting impression. Now that this has happened, I would feel obligated to make them eat together, older dog first, new dog 2nd. If needed put the one not eating on a lead to avoid any extra excitement. That way if I do decide to send her back, I at least know these two dogs left on a good note, and hopefully will have little impact on how the young female views other dogs in the future.

With out seeing it in person its hard to say who did what or why. However given all that you have said, and if your confident that she started it, and you were there supervising, combine that you have very little invested in her. If it isn't to big deal to return her I pry would. Not that I'm saying you can't fix it, but I wouldn't want to pay money for a dog that needs as much work as your describing. If she started doing a great job hunting, I wouldn't let me stop this from purchasing, it would just be something on my priorities to fix. Even finished hound almost always need a little fixing here and there.

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Yeah she defiantly started it. I was about two feet away from them when it started. The cur didn't do a thing. Next second the walker has him by the neck and penned with no sign of letting go.

Years ago when I started hunting a wise man once told me dogs are like horses, you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink.....can't make a dog go hunting, some have drive an some don't.

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Originally posted by Yote Trapper
Yeah she defiantly started it. I was about two feet away from them when it started. The cur didn't do a thing. Next second the walker has him by the neck and penned with no sign of letting go.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

She's hunting good now. Still haven't seen a coon, but has worked two tracks. She showed me a possum tonight. Haven't had any other issues concerning the feeding.

Only been out three times with her since I got here last Tuesday.

Are you positive your hunting her in coon, a lot of dogs will tree possum when there not seeing many coon.
She pry is out of shape, see if you can get extension on your trial.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

Yeah I've treed coon in the same woods with other dogs. The only thing I'm doing different is that I'm hunting from 6:30-8:00, instead of later.

Sounds like she needs a lot of work

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

Well she treeded where there were turkey's up in the tree tonight. I've seen all I is need to. She's headed back tomorrow.